# What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 23, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220 "2006-03-23T01:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PheroRider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@PheroRider](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroRider)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/63 "2013-08-27T06:09:07Z")

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Have have seen marked (good) differences when I use A314 in sales situations. Though, I have a colleague that I believe it makes him a little grunchy? It’s pretty consistent, he seems to have a more angry mood about him when I wear it. Though, this colleague isn’t angry normally.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_in\_the\_night](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Stranger\_in\_the\_night](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stranger_in_the_night)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/64 "2013-10-26T12:11:21Z")

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Guys, would you help me, what to use for an exam?  
I have in my arsenal:

1. Regular Ammunition
2. Ammunition Summer Edition
3. A314 Rev.1.32A and A314 1.32B
4. Instand Honesty
5. Instant Openess
6. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)
7. P91

Don’t know what to choose and in what doses. Examinators will be both males & females (but more women, I guess).

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**Author:** ![Spiderman007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@Spiderman007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spiderman007)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/65 "2013-10-26T12:30:20Z")

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I think you need some P102 for focus bro and good ol fashioned learning

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_in\_the\_night](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Stranger\_in\_the\_night](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stranger_in_the_night)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/66 "2013-10-26T22:53:25Z")

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> [@Spiderman007](#):
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> I think you need some P102 for focus bro and good ol fashioned learning

I only have P91 ☹

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/67 "2013-10-27T04:20:23Z")

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> [@Stranger\_in\_the\_night](#):
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> I only have P91 ☹

You could use P91 for studying, it can make you more confident and upbeat - more content with yourself.

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**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/68 "2013-10-30T11:56:27Z")

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good thread.

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**Author:** ![NZBrewster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/74df32/32.png) [@NZBrewster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NZBrewster)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/69 "2014-07-31T09:39:01Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> What is your sales environment? How long are you usually with your customers? Do you sell high ticket items (that benefit greatly from more rapport/trust from the salesman)?
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> You simply must try A314, silly! 😉 😃
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> Have you tried a beta-nol heavy product like Instant Honesty or Come Talk to Me?
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> I swam in beta-nol while I attended a few seminars. _Boy_ does it make my job easy. Armed with the deep betanol fueled rapport I could have sold _anything_ to _everyone_ I talked to\*. \*
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> I find that A314 and beta-nol is _brilliant_ in sales situations. A314 instillsthe trust/respect, “Trust me to guide you to the right choice because I am truly here to help you”-feeling in clients/customers.
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> A shade of beta-nol on top of that really deepens and seals the rapport between you automatically so that you _barely_ even have to open your mouth. They’ll spill out exactly what you need to know to sell them exactly what they want with about a sneeze’s worth of effort on your part.
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> 😮 TAL, really! 😛
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> How does this “extra friendly presence” differ from, say, an anol or TAA effect? Ie, what makes TAL different/appropriate and why did you choose it?
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> 😛 😛 haha.. “sexy young thang”…
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> Yes! I notice that on Shine (which of course you know is jam packed with TAA) I start to get really funny, too! Cracking jokes and being all around humorous. _Especially_ around folks I’d normally be intimidated by.

Hi from New Zealand. I appreciate your insight and my interest in the pheros are mainly related to business. Thank you

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**Author:** ![eternitys\_child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@eternitys\_child](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eternitys_child)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/70 "2014-07-31T10:02:10Z")

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God dammit I lost my post that I spent so long trying to make it easy for others to understand but now, fuq it I’ll just say it.

Before you use mones, imagine urself in an unbiased view or “control” (hard as hell! get a good friend (experiment) who yuo know will be honest with u to help u put some description words down of how you are being perceived)

Then, apply the mones and do the same imagination. Do you feel any different? What’s your point of view on urself. Ask ur trusty friend the same. Just don’t tell them ur secret.

You’ll be able to decide for yourself.

P.S. I had a great response typed out but it got erased when I accidentally hit back… hopefully somebody’s response to this will refresh my memory because I don’t remember what I said 😕

> [@NZBrewster](#):
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> Hi from New Zealand. I appreciate your insight and my interest in the pheros are mainly related to business. Thank you

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**Author:** ![dj\_k\_88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dj\_k\_88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj_k_88)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/71 "2014-09-11T16:52:31Z")

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Does everyone wear all Pheromones the same way? I’ve read that some put it on their chest, some on their face, some in their hair…what’s right? Any advice?

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**Author:** ![eternitys\_child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@eternitys\_child](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eternitys_child)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/72 "2014-09-11T17:29:34Z")

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> [@dj\_k\_88](#):
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> Does everyone wear all Pheromones the same way? I’ve read that some put it on their chest, some on their face, some in their hair…what’s right? Any advice?

Definitely not. It’s actually kind of fun if you think about the application method before applying.

E.g., A314 + IO is going to be A314 + IO but the way it effects others is different if you layer one on top of the other.

IO On top of A314 creates an inviting openness aura first and then the authority creeps in slowly

A314 on top of IO demands authority and warms people up after conversing for a little while.

Subtle, but strategic

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/73 "2014-09-11T17:35:59Z")

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A314/IO is a waste of both products IMO! Use less A314 or IH/IS instead.

And dj\_k\_88 - get yourself into the app points sticky but don’t get too hung-up on app points - So long as it has good circulation to promote diffusion, its viable And watch what you put on hair - Some pheros should never be applied there as they bind strongly and are hellish difficult to remove when they start stinking.

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**Author:** ![dj\_k\_88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dj\_k\_88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj_k_88)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/74 "2014-09-11T18:18:48Z")

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I didn’t think about that. That’s really interesting. Thanks for the info! Do you apply to forearms and check or hair or what have you found is best? Does it depend on what you’re using?

> [@eternitys\_child](#):
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> Definitely not. It’s actually kind of fun if you think about the application method before applying.
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> E.g., A314 + IO is going to be A314 + IO but the way it effects others is different if you layer one on top of the other.
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> IO On top of A314 creates an inviting openness aura first and then the authority creeps in slowly
> 
> A314 on top of IO demands authority and warms people up after conversing for a little while.
> 
> Subtle, but strategic

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**Author:** ![eternitys\_child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@eternitys\_child](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eternitys_child)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/75 "2014-09-11T18:30:55Z")

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it really does depend on what is being used. as mobo said, that may not be a good combo

but i like to use socials on my arms and TAA or IS on my neck. Again, it’s effect dependent. Think about what effect you want to have on others, and use appropriately. for example, you could use IS on your hands to project the good feeling around you rather than feeling it yourself.

you’ll get it with experience, that’s how i have been learning. First I is to figure out what the effects _were_. Then how to use it advantageously 🙂

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**Author:** ![dj\_k\_88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dj\_k\_88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj_k_88)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/76 "2014-09-11T18:37:58Z")

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Thank you both. Great info. Much appreciated.

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**Author:** ![cdiaz0526](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@cdiaz0526](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cdiaz0526)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/77 "2014-09-30T22:05:16Z")

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hello what’s the difference between the a314 1.32b and the a314 1.32a? I know the price difference but what about the effects of each of them?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/78 "2014-10-01T09:18:36Z")

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No difference, just dose - the \a is the higher impact product whilst the \b is dosed to be closer in impact to the oil.

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**Author:** ![jaje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/858c86/32.png) [@jaje](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jaje)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/79 "2015-02-02T14:27:41Z")

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After about a year of experimenting with Alpha Androstenol ExperiMone, I am reporting.

I started out by looking for a response from women and got some smiles from women my age (40s-50s), and occasionally from younger women.

But while concentrating on female responses, I didn’t realize the effect it was having at work. I started a new job last year, and was spritzing a little, maybe half a spray, on top of my head where there is a slight bald spot. About a month into the job I noticed that my supervisor and his boss were treating me with respect, catering to what they perceived were my needs (rearranging computers, furniture, etc.) to make me comfortable.

I am having a similar response with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). I have since started putting the mones on the back of my neck because the neroli fragrance is a little strong for me, even at the weakest concentration.

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**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/80 "2015-07-16T20:39:52Z")

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Perhaps its time to resurrect this topic…

Anyone have any new input or experiences on what they have found to work better for business applications (office, meetings, sales, etc.)?

Any good info is helpful. But for now- please refrain from the “_A314 is the best in this situation_” comments, since it is not currently available. Looking for other mixtures, combos, or applications that you have had success with.

So lets hear it!😉  
M$

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**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhodes/32/998_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rhodes)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/81 "2016-02-16T04:29:55Z")

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Aside from A314 (which is sorely unavailable, I had to say that), I have found that 2 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (one on each hand, topside) 2 sprays of Instant Shine (one on each pulse point) + another spray of Shine on my upper chest, helps make office discussions, sales calls, and general business days very pleasant & smooth-going.

I add A314 to the above mix whenever I attend socials with big bosses & other top management people. It keeps everything light & fun, while maintaining the status aura.

That’s why my AD Cart currently has four (yes, 4) bottles of IS, and I’m just waiting for A314 to be available - in either the To-Go mini spray bottles or in oil form (the familiar blue bottle).

I do not really want to spend for FedEx to Southeast Asia twice, so I will checkout and pay as soon as any of the A314 products are back to complete my purchase.

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**Author:** ![JP8100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@JP8100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JP8100)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/82 "2016-09-20T15:17:11Z")

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Big interview coming up. Huge promotion. I’m going with A314, IS, and IO. Fingers crossed.

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