# what would it take? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 2, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779 "2010-07-02T18:25:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/1 "2010-07-02T18:25:05Z")
I’ve seen polls conducted several times and to no avail so instead of yet another poll I pose the question to the powers that be, “what would it take to get [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/), and MX301 to be made into full fledged consumer line products in 30ml bottles?” I don’t know how much more consistent and effective these products need to be or how much more positive feedback is required for it to be obvious the stuff works and will sell like hot cakes. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/2 "2010-07-02T18:35:59Z")
Yah with 301 I have gotten better hits than off of ammo. Mr Right now lol. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/3 "2010-07-02T18:38:12Z")
More testing maybe? Plus the noteriety of these mixes seem to have gone down in the past month or so. There’s an abundant supply in the store and I’m tempted to pick up a couple of bottles a peice so that I can keep these handy just incase they run out again. I’m also guessing that due to the high mcg count of these [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), they would be as expensive as A314. Logistically wouldn’t make sense. If you look at the consumer line, with the exception of AMMO and A314, everything else is 15mcg/spray. The whole dynamics would change. I think MX301 has ~25 mcg/spray (can’t remember off the top of my head) so for me who use 4-6 you would need 6-8 sprays of this to get the same results. Now this is just a suggestion here. And it would probably be more of a premium and a longer lead time, but if AD could treat this like the P series and create the 30ml’s as needed and price it accordingly then that would be perfect. There should be some profit on this too because we love these mixes and want them to stay on the 30ml option. And even if I have MX301 and MX297 is 30ml I wouldn’t use it every day as lets say an IS, AMMO, or A314. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/4 "2010-07-02T19:39:52Z")
I think its been declared before that there was never any intention of taking MX301 to consumer status. As Gegogi has mentioned before many MX’s have come and gone and its been a very long time since a product has come out with more things being discontinued such as Dirty, RP, and IFM. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/5 "2010-07-02T21:55:18Z")
I get that not every mx will or even should become a consumer line product but expanding the depth of the consumer line imo is a good idea, and these are probably two of if not THE two most positively reviewed MX’s there are. I don’t see any reason NOT to make them regular products. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/6 "2010-07-02T22:06:52Z")
There were plenty of other MX’s that garnered as much attention as these two MX292(MX353) and it was never made into a consumer product. We’ve only been here in the forum for half a year so it’s a little different for us in our perspective cause all we’ve been exposed to are these two pheromones. There’s MX330 which is a fun mix too (Might try that out later tonight) but the topic for MX’s have probably come and gone each and every time. Let’s hope they just offer it in a 30ml. Maybe that’s a mid line AD is willing to do to custom make an order with premiums in price. I bet if it garnered enough attention from the users they would be willing to make it a consumer line. It just seems more of a logical progression, business wise, to gague the real effects. ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/7 "2010-07-02T22:18:30Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > **but if AD could treat this like the P series and create the 30ml’s as needed and price it accordingly then that would be perfect.** I’d go for that. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/8 "2010-07-02T22:27:04Z")
This has been asked in many threads and has seen many polls as well. This isn’t Rome. We can’t just simply shout whatever we want and expect it “to be”. Obviously you can’t do it with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) but MX301 is makeable and the ingreds are there so I don’t see an issue with having to mix it yourself. Its one thing to ask for a MX back but to ask for a 30 mL option that is rarely given as a option on MX if anymore is absurd. Say what you will but our opinions on “how” we think they should do things doesn’t mean a thing because they have there systems and prerogatives to go by. ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/9 "2010-07-02T22:44:29Z")
[MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) had the 30ml option I think before? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/10 "2010-07-03T14:50:40Z")
You could just use NBULLY’s calculator, input the mcg needed to make the MX301. It will tell you what concentrations to buy. Then order those in the 5 ml togo size. I guess also order a 30 ml bottle too 🙂 Then mix. It would be about the same price as buying it premixed, and because it has 6 ingredients is easy to mix exactly 30 ml. Plus you can give it your own personal scent. Thats what I did to make my oil version. Except that I only made 15 mls. Its easy to do. Then it does not matter if AD sells it or not. You also do not have to waste time on polls and making posts about wanting something that probably is not going to happen. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-it-take/39779/11 "2010-07-03T16:45:22Z")
That’s fine I suppose, I’m lazy and would rather just buy it outright but if they aren’t going to make 297 in full size bottles, I wish they’d share the formula for that one.