# What would you call MX297 / MX390 / MX456 / MX457? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 5, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086 "2012-01-05T14:37:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/21 "2012-01-08T08:53:57Z")
Smooth operator. From Urban Dictionary: "Someone who can handle multiple situations in a fashion that can only be described as “Awesome, spectucular, and, above all else, awesometacular”. Usually a smooth operator is someone who tends to be “on top of things”, and in is usually in control of any given situation. If he/she isn’t in control of a situation, they usually find a way to gain control of it to make it more awesome for everyone involved. Smooth Operators are rarely in trouble, and, when they are, they can usually get out of these situations quickly, elegantly and with a zero percent chance of casualties". Thanks. Talk to you soon. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/22 "2012-01-08T14:29:51Z")
How about instant Ross (from friends). I’m only half kidding. It makes me you approachable, likable, and like a popular person, but castrates your balls the next day or two. Hence I were to pick an actor I’d say Ross from friends. Not everyones cup of tea. Dsouza ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/23 "2012-01-09T16:38:52Z")
Can’t believe that we’re talking about bringing [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) to a consumer line product! For me, I think you should go with: The Most Awesome Man In The World It will refer to the epic ad campaign which has been the best of the decade and I really think that MX297 is that awesome! ---
**Author:** ![WillieBeeman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/58f4c7/32.png) [@WillieBeeman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WillieBeeman)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/24 "2012-01-09T16:42:55Z")
Can’t believe we are talking about bringing [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) to a consumer line product! That will be great! I think the name should be: The Most Awesome Man In The World It would refer to the epic ad campaign by the beer company that has been named the best of the decade and I really think that MX297 could carry these expectations being that awesome! ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/25 "2012-02-02T19:37:09Z")
> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > SOUNDS LIKE MY FAVORITE PRODUCT MIGHT BE MAKING IT TO THE COMMERCIAL LINE!!! > > mx297 is very Johnny Depp, Jason Mraz. Cool, chill. Not loudly charismatic but an extremely stable cool and still charm > > “Instant Popularity” seems befitting but sounds a little shallow > > “Suave” sounds really great to me but to new users it might come across as a little contrived > > I honestly like the sound of Charisma but mx297 oozes more of a silent and chill type of charisma. The general term > > I’ve been using mx297+P75 of late and I’d call the mix “Rogue” the charismatic charming rogue. > > I honestly personally hope I can contribute a good idea but what sums up mx297 are > > Chill > Smooth > Social > Posh > > “Smooth” be the or part of the name perhaps? With the rest included in the product description > > "Our new product “Smooth” > > Something along the lines of how > > Smooth transforms you into the popular guy. Vanquish the bane of social anxiety. This product oozes class. How would you like to channel smooth. Be the guy everyone talks to > > (sorry its a little too late here for me to come up with some marketing slogans) > > Lol, TUTH and Ammo can fix that component of mx297. I would think mx412/13 is the Instant Friend Zone product. mx412/13 and P130 are excellent products especially on the self effects side but when used around the ladies it becomes an instant cock block even when used with TUTH and ammo. I wear MX 297 with IS and Ammo and I’m still in friend zone. I’m still emotional with it on. I’m definitely not wetting any panties with it. Furthermore it attracts very young girls, and 30 somethings poke fun in your face. Anyways I can get this mix to be more manly? What to do I’m using like 3 sprays of double strength ammo and nothing! dsouza ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/26 "2012-02-02T20:27:12Z")
How about something that isnt abbreviated “IS”… haha ---
**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/27 "2012-02-10T09:45:52Z")
Rockstar, Playboy, Natural, The Most Interesting Man in the Room. Socialite, Conversationalist, Popularity, The King of Charm. I actually quite like the sound of The Conversationalist, though I have a feeling other people would prefer something else. This mix can turn you into that guy, you know the one over there with all those people around him, laughing at his jokes, wanting to be near him. It is like he is walking on air, with the conversationalist it isn’t just some guy over there, it is you. I also like the sound of Legendary Charisma. Also in a song, I am reminded of this: [Big Bad Voodoo Daddy - Mr. Pinstripe Suit - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBxfAs_skMA) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/28 "2012-02-10T10:49:37Z")
LJBF - Best description and it already has a link 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/29 "2012-02-10T11:53:36Z")
it is an amazing product, it does make you attractive, but I don’t know if in the sexual sense. I loved to mix it with IG because it made me the greatest salesman in the world. I like LJBF LOL @ Steve ---
**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/30 "2012-02-10T22:45:35Z")
Wow, could it be true what I’m reading that [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) might (finally) make it to the 30 ml version? I honestly thought this would never happen, but then again, there were other plans in the past to bring other great mixes into the full 30ml line, like the P.S. mix, only to be left waiting for eternity…☹ ---
**Author:** ![Arkios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@Arkios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Arkios)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/31 "2012-02-11T10:23:49Z")
Instant Beta -or- Beta 314 Probably wont sell to well with a name like that tho. LJBF works lol I got terrible self effects whenever I used my MX390, even with other mones like A314. It basically made me feel entirely un-confident and anxious, especially around others who were more Alpha-esque. It did make people seem to want to be around me, and they seemed more interested in talking with me though. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/32 "2012-02-11T17:15:19Z")
I have to say I am a real fan of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/). My name for it would be **“Instant BFF”**! > [@P51Mustang](#): > > Instant Friend Zone **Signed** > [@Steve](#): > > LJBF - Best description and it already has a link 🙂 **On point!** I really like the consistent results that you get with this. If you see it for what it is and use it correctly it is a great addition to your arsenal. I have 2 unused 5ml’s. I hope it makes it to the consumer line. Maybe call it “Nice Guy”. ---
**Author:** ![PheroHobbyist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PheroHobbyist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroHobbyist)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/33 "2012-02-12T03:02:24Z")
So mx297 has a crash effect? How major? ---
**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/34 "2012-02-12T08:57:45Z")
> [@PheroHobbyist](#): > > So mx297 has a crash effect? How major? I’ve personally never noticed that. Could just be me though. ---
**Author:** ![Arkios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ab992/32.png) [@Arkios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Arkios)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/35 "2012-02-12T10:58:44Z")
> [@PheroHobbyist](#): > > So mx297 has a crash effect? How major? I haven’t read of many other people (maybe 1 or 2 others) who have had really negative side effects off of 297/390. It might just be me and my personal physiology, or it simply might have been a bad batch of MX390, who knows! Anyways, here is an excerpt of what I felt while using MX390: > [@Arkios](#): > > I was really excited about this one from all the buzz about it (MX390 and MX297) on the forums. It worked well as a social pheromone, just like everyone said it would. People were chattier and friendlier with me, and it seemed like they wanted to be around me more… BUT… for me, there was a much darker side. > > At first I tried MX390 solo. I was getting some self effects that I didn’t like at all. I found myself feeling a little anxious, and I felt uncomfortable holding eye contact with people for any length of time. I caught my self looking down and away from people a lot. I noticed my body language shifted, I didn’t naturally want to hold myself straight and stand tall like I normally did. Basically, the self effects were the exact opposite of the self effects I got off of A314 . Instead of feeling “Alpha”, I guess I was feeling very “Beta” and it took a good amount of conscious effort for me to act like I normally do, holding eye contact, walking with my head held high, not feeling uncomfortable around new people or superior ranking Soldiers. I DID NOT like it at all! I even tried to layer/mix other pheromones like Ammo and A314 to no avail. It seemed that as long as there was some MX390 in there, I felt the self effects. The only thing that seemed to help, ease some of the awkward feeling from 390 was 3+ sprays of IS, and even then it just masked the feelings with a sugar coating of “happy”. They were still there. > > I really wanted to like MX390 . I went through the entire to-go bottle in about 2 weeks, trying different strengths, mixes and social settings. In the end, 390 was a bust for me. I will not be ordering that again. I’ll try to get my social pheromone fix from other sources. ---
**Author:** ![PheroHobbyist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PheroHobbyist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroHobbyist)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/36 "2012-02-12T18:21:48Z")
Yeah, I’m not sure if Iwant to try mx297- don’t want the LJBF vibe to wreck things ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/37 "2012-02-21T11:31:25Z")
At work,I have been using 3 sprays mx 297 with 3 drops A314 and it’s awsome. Not too sexual and not too limp either. They both compliment each other and one of my fave work combos for when I want to have an incredible day. 297 on it’s own at 3 sprays I would call it the Metrosexual! the 456 and 457 I will try on their own but also add 3 sprays to my A314 work mix and absorb the affects for you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/38 "2012-02-21T11:54:22Z")
> [@PheroHobbyist](#): > > Yeah, I’m not sure if Iwant to try mx297- don’t want the LJBF vibe to wreck things Depends on how you use it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you need to work this mix hard in a fun/social direction, let the [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/390/whatever latest version do its work unaided for a while till its properties have set-in, **Then** introduce some overt none - I found a little TUTH or plain Androstenone to work best. The Sudden change in gear from a close/engaging/charasmatic vibe to a “Lets go to mine - **RIGHT NOW** ” moment is a joy to behold! 😃 And in a younger guy, with decent game/natural none production and around younger women, it is also still very good and sexual - Hits all the other feelings that need to be provoked. Equally, it is beginning to look like adding some P75 can also do wonders for its attractive properties around younger or more none sensitive women. I and a few other have recently had some good responses there. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DarkLight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@DarkLight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DarkLight)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/39 "2012-02-22T01:42:33Z")
I never use MX297 as a standalone but it definitely adds a celebrity walking on air playboy vibe to whatever I mix it with-usually A314 and/or [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) ideas for commercial line: Instant Interest Cloud 9 Instant Ace or Ace Instant Worth HotShot Allure ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086/40 "2012-03-22T07:34:06Z")
I so gotta try this. Lucky for me, I have [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) already and I’ll keep it on hand to avoid any LJBF crap. Is each iteration the same except for the scent? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-would-you-call-mx297-mx390-mx456-mx457/54086.md?page=3)