# Whatever Happened to Pheromone Proof? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 15, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907 "2009-01-15T04:26:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/22 "2009-01-17T00:54:46Z")
Thank you very much for making it available. And thank you too Jasmin for deciding to produce it again. You guys made alot of people happy I think. > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/587): > > Well the good news is that the Pheromone Proof name is officially dead and I havent been involved in offering it or anything else for a year or two, so any references to it or futurist now or in the future should signal b.s. Androtics is making it available as an MX according to Jasmin’s post on the forum. I am sure androtics will let you know when it’s available. > > The other thing is, given how small the community is, whomever using the name isn’t getting much benefit out of it. If they are trying to sell their product, i don’t think it’s a strategy that will make any real difference for them. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/23 "2009-01-17T03:39:57Z")
I actually have almost half a bottle of PP I’ve been saving for special occasions. Kinda an Ammo on steroids (same scent as normal Ammo so she’s surprised at her agitation). I wonder if HEC sold IceBreaker or he merely assumed a new identity. If you go to his old website you’re redirected to another mone seller. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/24 "2009-01-17T04:45:17Z")
i wonder if ammo and mx292 would be close to pp?? ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/25 "2009-01-17T10:55:36Z")
Hi all, Been away for a while am mighty glad I came online today! Thanks to Futurist, am looking forward to seeing the famous PP back in action. I’m sick as a dog right now and if anyone would be so kind as to post the link regarding the deal which Jasmin talked about, I’d be very grateful and it’ll earn you some rep points too 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/26 "2009-01-17T11:16:03Z")
> [@Re: HELP! Sex with girl I like](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/re-help-sex-with-girl-i-like/9249/30): > > Hi all, > > Been away for a while am mighty glad I came online today! Thanks to Futurist, am looking forward to seeing the famous PP back in action. I’m sick as a dog right now and if anyone would be so kind as to post the link regarding the deal which Jasmin talked about, I’d be very grateful and it’ll earn you some rep points too 😉 Here’s Jasmins official announcement in a MX292 thread: > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/mx292-26832.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 11:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/27 "2009-01-17T11:30:13Z")
Many thanks bubblebob 🙂 Repped. Hope your well mate. ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/28 "2009-01-22T06:28:31Z")
i read somewhere that adding taa and beta-nol to ammo approximates the PP effect, r these the 2 other ingredients? when will it be available? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/29 "2009-01-22T08:38:24Z")
> [@mahalo\_silver](#): > > i read somewhere that adding taa and beta-nol to ammo approximates the PP effect, r these the 2 other ingredients? when will it be available? Hmm, I think Ammo is a fairly even ratio of androstenone, androstenol & androsterone (1:1:1 at 7.5mcg total mones a zap). As I recall the PP composition was more complex and androstenone heavy with exactly triple the androstenone. If you want to spike Ammo up to PP territory you’ll need to lather on the androstenone… Incidentally I have used TAA and beta nol with Ammo many times. Ain’t nuttin’ like PP. In fact it tames Ammo even more (think: “Hello Kitty” vibe) and is lightyears from the fire breathing PP beast. ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/30 "2009-01-22T11:52:37Z")
PP will be made available again!??!!? omfg, that’s so awesome. this calls for some kind of celebration lol. 😃 is it gonna be called mx101 again? ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/31 "2009-01-22T12:06:13Z")
To quote Jasmin from the MX292 thread “It won’t be MX101 anymore, since we don’t have the original scent package in stock anymore, but MX292 isn’t PheroProof. Completely different designers and design philosophies. The new PheroProof mix will probably be MX3something, and come out around the time we can start weekly forum newsletter mailings again” keep your eyes peeled! ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/32 "2009-01-22T13:32:43Z")
yeah im just going on a thread where peeps were talking about adding IS to Ammo, , and i think it was Tisha who said “add a little TAF” and u get something that approximates PP. however, if u go to hiw webpage at [pheromoneproof.com](http://pheromoneproof.com), his ingredients r the big 3 - anol, rone and none and 2 “new novel 'mones”…judging by his descriptions about 1 of them "really making u the centre of the room, lively, more visible, and combined with what i read in the “how to make PP” thread… that the secret ingredients were taa…the other one not so sure…but he descirbes it as a “[male pheromone](https://phero.com/)”. so waht r peoples ideas on what his formula actually is? Futurist had a blog somehwere that detailed the development of his product…interesting read…dunno where to find it though??? could be on Nbully’s blog page ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/33 "2009-01-22T13:37:46Z")
sorry i guess theres no point trying to make it ourselves now thats itll be available to us all. no need to guess the ingredients though. just out of interest and curiosity 🙂 so maybe its more similiar to say, NPA with TAA with TAF with Androsterone with A-nol, with nautica Competition cover given that NPA is a much stronger androstenone product] 1 question Gegogi, if its really high in androstenone, is it also a very well buffered prodcut or perhaps its not a product for the younger guys before the young 'uns rush out to grab it and get dissapointed… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/34 "2009-01-22T17:21:29Z")
As I recall Futurist spelled out 7.5mch -none on his product page, so yeah, plenty -none in there. When I use it I can smell the -none, especially after a couple hours and the Ammo scent fades. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/35 "2009-01-22T17:55:36Z")
> [@What's up?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/9149/6): > > … The formula is free for androtics to use so I do not make you guys _suffer_ anymore from having it available and then not available. I can no longer deny something that _may_ be able to make your lives better. Best of luck to each and every one of you. Thanks. I’ll certainly be picking up a bottle from Androtics if one is available when my current supply runs out. ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/36 "2009-01-29T11:43:44Z")
so when will za juice be in? we need to see what the title contender for 2009 best product will be…the new kid on the block mx292 or the challenger coming out of retirement, PP? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907/37 "2010-04-07T14:08:45Z")
> [@What's up?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/9149/6): > > To wrap up, the product was created with the idea of generally helping guys while allowing me to have some extra breathing room (back then my salary barely covered my living expenses). I love to help men as much as women, everyone’s “pain” is important to me. I encourage everyone to do what you can to help those around you. The formula is free for Androtics to use so I do not make you guys _suffer_ anymore from having it available and then not available. **I can no longer deny something that _may_ be able to make your lives better.** Best of luck to each and every one of you. Dearest Futurist, I know you’re out there, and it’s been years since MX101 came and went (recycling?). This morning, that Gegogi fella, brought up your product, and that sent me searching. Your statement in red above. I like it! With that being said, can we have the recipe to MX101 so that we don’t suffer anymore? 😛 Sincerely, M to the M [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whatever-happened-to-pheromone-proof/24907.md?page=1)