# whats better for sexual startups tuth or IJ and with ammo or a314 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 2, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567 "2011-06-02T15:24:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Private\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Private\_Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Private_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567/1 "2011-06-02T15:24:36Z")
ok i know this is a topic that has been talked about up one side and down the other. but for that Instant Horny feeling for her, that tickle in her pants, that gotta have it feeling whats the best combos ammo w/ IJ ammo w/ tuth A314 w/ IJ A314 w/ tuth and in what doses, sweet spots, location of sprays, etc. etc. also how do i know if i am producing to much natural none so i dont do the oppisite of what i am looking to achieve? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567/2 "2011-06-02T15:47:31Z")
A314/TUTH for me but I’m a good bit older and it is most effective with women from their mid 30s upward IME. IJ/A314 has been dramatic but has included nearly getting into fights and all sorts of other grief! [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH might be more effective for a younger person but I take it you ain’t looking for hearts and flowers with this mix? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Private\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Private\_Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Private_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567/3 "2011-06-02T15:52:15Z")
lol the forum knows me well, lol. ---
**Author:** ![amstelbreur](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/amstelbreur/32/2111_2.png) [@amstelbreur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/amstelbreur)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567/4 "2011-06-02T16:59:39Z")
> [@holljv](#): > > ok i know this is a topic that has been talked about up one side and down the other. but for that Instant Horny feeling for her, that tickle in her pants, that gotta have it feeling whats the best combos > > ammo w/ IJ > ammo w/ tuth > > A314 w/ IJ > A314 w/ tuth > > and in what doses, sweet spots, location of sprays, etc. etc. > > also how do i know if i am producing to much natural none so i dont do the oppisite of what i am looking to achieve? Hi holljv. Welcome to the forum. What age range are you trying to attract? As previously noted: A314 + TUTH works great for older women i usually get hits from 25+ AMMO+TUTH haven’t personally tested but should produce hits from an audience 20-30 IG+TUTH one of my favorite mixes when combined with a social. Great hits from 18-25ish Start out slow and find your sweet spot so you don’t OD or waste the ‘precious’. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567/5 "2011-06-04T22:17:14Z")
> [@Private\_Man](#): > > ok i know this is a topic that has been talked about up one side and down the other. but for that Instant Horny feeling for her, that tickle in her pants, that gotta have it feeling whats the best combos > > ammo w/ IJ > ammo w/ tuth > > A314 w/ IJ > A314 w/ tuth > > and in what doses, sweet spots, location of sprays, etc. etc. > > also how do i know if i am producing to much natural none so i dont do the oppisite of what i am looking to achieve? None of the above. A314 can have some immediate effects on strangers but the product is s subtle slow burn build up sorta thing. It’s very attractive but you’re asking for the same thing most new users ask for which has been said on numerous times not to exist…there is no Axe effect. At least not on a consistent basis with across the board results on all or even most women. If there was a mix that created “an INSTANT horny feeling” with no negative side effects then it would be bottled as a single product and in all likelihood be the sole product in AD’s lineup as most guys can’t see past their boners. The flaw with your options is you’re basing the whole idea on None. While None is the most predominantly sexual pheromone you’re forgetting that women don’t look at sex the same way as men do. Honestly you’d do fairly well with Ammo by itself…it’s well rounded for a reason. Even A314 would work well as a standalone although in a different way and most likely with a different type of woman. The main thing you need to realize is you need socials in there. Something to create a mood other than overt sexuality to make the woman feel safe and trusting of you. If you want a mix that will work I would suggest playing around with a very basic formula. A rone based product like A314 or IG to build attraction by creating the vibe of a high status/high value VIP type Alpha Male. A social like IO or IH, IO for a light and fun vibe or IH if you want a more emotional, deep connection vibe. A None based product like Ammo, TuTH or Jerk for sexuality and escalation. And finally some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to put a positive spin on the whole mix. Is there an ideal combination of mones?..yes, but it will vary from one user to another and one target to another. ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-better-for-sexual-startups-tuth-or-ij-and-with-ammo-or-a314/50567/6 "2011-06-04T23:02:26Z")
Is this a girl you’ve just met, a girl you’ve just dated and is now sitting on your sofa, a girl who is drunk on your bed, or a girl you’ve known for years snuggling you to sleep?