# What's sizzlin'?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 21, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930 "2011-10-21T15:55:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bulgariBLACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bulgariblack/32/2452_2.png) [@bulgariBLACK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bulgariBLACK)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/1 "2011-10-21T15:55:29Z")

</div>

My name is bulgariBLACK (the GREATEST cologne ever. PERIOD.). I’m a 22 year old entrepreneur, hip-hop producer, and smartphone addict. I’ve been dabbling in pickup since my friend introduced me to it when I was 15. It’s changed my life for the better, and everything I do is now programmed to be done through an Alpha frame.

Now, here’s my problem.

At 17, I got into an LTR with a girl, 4 years of shittiness pass (though I don’t regret any of it) and I’m almost 21 and ready to get back out on the scene. I had moderate success, pulling a HB10 hired gun but not getting the F close, several HB 8/9, many 7s.

This is all well and fine, except by that September, I had gotten into ANOTHER LTR for about 8 months. After that, I wanted to cool down and focus more on myself. So now at 22, everything’s good. I moved from VA to FL, I’m working on my approach game (only thing I really have a problem with, kinda rusty). I remember reading [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) but after hearing people say that they smell like urine, I was put off.

So here I am, I’d like to be able to get some help with my approaching. I’ve done it without pheromones, so if these are real, then that’d be just a little extra ammo! THANKS!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/2 "2011-10-21T16:02:44Z")

</div>

Hello and welcome to the forum!!

The pheromones def do work. They arent magic, but they do help! Are you looking for help with the social interaction, or the sexual? I can tell you that ammo is a great [sexual pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) to start with. The socials, IS, IH, IO are great for helping with levels of conversation and easing the mood.

Let me know your goals and we can go from there!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/3 "2011-10-21T16:10:00Z")

</div>

Hey there and welcome!

Approach would be helped by a lot of things here, and I’ve never noticed any of them smelling like urine. I’ve heard some of the molecules ALONE without the scents can smell a little bad but I have never noticed.

For approach instants like IO/IH and IS would be good. IO and IH are similar in that they get people comfortable around you and can make them more chatty and can spark conversation easier. IS gives off a fun youthful playful vibe that people just love to be around, which is what we want right?

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a great mix for attraction, and is slightly sexual but not OVERLY sexual so you can wear it almost anywhere.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/4 "2011-10-21T16:16:07Z")

</div>

> [@bulgariBLACK](#):
>
> My name is bulgariBLACK (the GREATEST cologne ever. PERIOD.). I’m a 22 year old entrepreneur, hip-hop producer, and smartphone addict. I’ve been dabbling in pickup since my friend introduced me to it when I was 15. It’s changed my life for the better, and everything I do is now programmed to be done through an Alpha frame.
> 
> Now, here’s my problem.
> 
> At 17, I got into an LTR with a girl, 4 years of shittiness pass (though I don’t regret any of it) and I’m almost 21 and ready to get back out on the scene. I had moderate success, pulling a HB10 hired gun but not getting the F close, several HB 8/9, many 7s.
> 
> This is all well and fine, except by that September, I had gotten into ANOTHER LTR for about 8 months. After that, I wanted to cool down and focus more on myself. So now at 22, everything’s good. I moved from VA to FL, I’m working on my approach game (only thing I really have a problem with, kinda rusty). I remember reading pheromones but after hearing people say that they smell like urine, I was put off.
> 
> So here I am, I’d like to be able to get some help with my approaching. I’ve done it without pheromones, so if these are real, then that’d be just a little extra ammo! THANKS!

Welcome to the club, man.

You’ve definately gave a good amount of info on yourself; just a little more and you’ll probably be getting that $25 gift certificate soon.

One thing to point out… it sounds like you’re the kind of guy that is into self improvement, and that’s a very good thing - - - too many guys nowdays take what they’re handed in life and they don’t think that they can do any better with it.

Anyhow, back to mones, I think that some IO and IH would definately do you good. Both are aimed towards communication, and send trigger signals accordingly - IO is MORE conversation, IH is rapport and quality of conversation.

IG is an alpha product that would probably work well with ya as you’ve obviously studied either social dynamics or PUA. It’s smooooooth, man. Real smooth.

Where do you plan to use the mones? Clubs?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bulgariBLACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bulgariblack/32/2452_2.png) [@bulgariBLACK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bulgariBLACK)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/5 "2011-10-21T16:30:49Z")

</div>

I was reading a bit yesterday about AMMO and TUTH. I bought some Realm cologne, while it just smells ok, I doubt it has “real” pheromones in it. I haven’t noticed anything really, but then again, I’m not really sure what I’m looking for.

My main problem is that I just moved to Florida and I work over 50 hours a week, usually 9am - 7pm, with a 30+ min. drive to and from work. I don’t have a lot of time to go out, plus with music I’m pretty tied up. Definitely helps with having a busy, Alpha lifestyle (gettin’ Oprah rich!) but not so much for pulling.

I’ve pulled several girls numbers, but they’ve all flaked. I’m not sure if I’m escalating too fast or what, I used to have this dialed in so well that I didn’t even think about it, but I do believe I’m over thinking it a bit. Most interactions don’t get past a few texts after the number’s gotten and the girls (7’s and 8’s) are usually pretty boring. I work at Verizon but honestly HATE texting, although I’ve grown accustomed as this is almost all people do now. I still prefer phone calls for rapport, and even better is to actually be face-to-face.

I need to step up my text game and my approach game.

I’m going to refresh myself on The Venusian Arts handbook and some David D C&F.

As far as scents, I have a ton of cologne. I just want something that makes girls say,“Damn, who’s THAT guy?” bulgariBLACK is my favorite, it’s got excellent longevity and the best/most original scent I’ve ever smelled. Can you mix pheromones with cologne?

I read about buffers…buffers are scents to tone down the pheromones? When I first got into PU, I remember reading about one called Alter Ego…is that relevant anymore?

Glad I found this place.

So, to conclude…

I want pheromones that’ll help with that raw, sexual feeling, will make girls more open to me, and will also (if possible) mix with my cologne.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bulgariBLACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bulgariblack/32/2452_2.png) [@bulgariBLACK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bulgariBLACK)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/6 "2011-10-21T16:45:57Z")

</div>

> [@ochrismongrelo](#):
>
> Welcome to the club, man.
> 
> You’ve definately gave a good amount of info on yourself; just a little more and you’ll probably be getting that $25 gift certificate soon.
> 
> One thing to point out… it sounds like you’re the kind of guy that is into self improvement, and that’s a very good thing - - - too many guys nowdays take what they’re handed in life and they don’t think that they can do any better with it.
> 
> Anyhow, back to mones, I think that some IO and IH would definately do you good. Both are aimed towards communication, and send trigger signals accordingly - IO is MORE conversation, IH is rapport and quality of conversation.
> 
> IG is an alpha product that would probably work well with ya as you’ve obviously studied either social dynamics or PUA. It’s smooooooth, man. Real smooth.
> 
> Where do you plan to use the mones? Clubs?

Ha, if you only knew! Any self-help book worth its merits, I’ve probably read.

I’m a good looking guy, I’ve got a baller personality, moms love me, kids wanna be me, but I just can’t get these points to STICK like I used to. There’s some tiny tweak I need to make that’ll unleash the dragon, so to speak, and I’m thinking that the pheromones may be that extra spark I need. I don’t want them as a crutch, just as a booster.

I’m not really a club guy, more of a bar guy. I can’t dance (working on that now), and so most of my successes have been day game. I’d LOVE to be able to run the club/bars though, for sure!

The IG one sounds right up my alley as does the AMMO and the IO and IH. Do you mix these together? I want to avoid the OD phase if possible. I do put the bulgariBLACK on pretty heavy, but it’s the sex, so I don’t think you can have enough and everyone around me agrees.

I know that with cologne different people will have different reactions, so I assume the same is true about the pheromones?

P.S. I tried the Realm on today, having had it months and only worn it once (can’t rememeber)…It’s actually really nice, still smells strong but not overpowering, nice masculine powdery scent on the dry down.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/7 "2011-10-21T17:31:19Z")

</div>

> [@bulgariBLACK](#):
>
> The IG one sounds right up my alley as does the AMMO and the IO and IH. Do you mix these together? I want to avoid the OD phase if possible.

You _can_ mix them together. It’s really up to you. The main thing that you have to worry about OD’ing on is Androstenone (someone your age produces quite a bit) which is the aggressive sexual hormone. Too much of it can give off a ‘sex fiend’ vibe or can make ya feel hostile; as well as getting ya ghosted…so with a product like Ammo you really want to do the sweet spot testing to find out how many sprays you can use before you hit the point of OD.

IG is more AndrosteRone. It’s more of a leader vibe ( to me it feels like James Bond), and with a bit of none thrown it it becomes the vibe that is most associated with the ‘boss’ ‘Alpha Male’.

In Fact, A314 is an 80%:20% mix of Rone and None with some steering molecules thrown in. It’s the big dog and gives off the ‘Donald Trump’/CEO sorta Alpha Vibe.

IH and IO are buffers - which means that they soften the aggression that none and rone can produce.

[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is another big one… it gives off a ‘happy, fun’ effect. Using it to buffer A314 can make a314 really good socially with the whole cocky-funny approach while still throwing out a HECK OF A LOT of DHV.

🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/8 "2011-10-21T19:04:34Z")

</div>

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/7/785933bea562b5da05c0fb5cd1f3c38afdc2cdf2.jpeg "Sizzling Hot Bacon Porn") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDobhFj8JE)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bulgariBLACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bulgariblack/32/2452_2.png) [@bulgariBLACK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bulgariBLACK)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/9 "2011-10-21T19:34:57Z")

</div>

> [@Steve](#):
>
> [Sizzling Hot Bacon Porn - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDobhFj8JE)

First time in my life I’ve ever fapped to food. Thanks.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/10 "2011-10-23T22:50:29Z")

</div>

Welcome to pherotalk Bulgari!

I have no doubt as soon as you start testing your pheromones things will fall into place and you will get that push you needed all along.

When you finally place your order and decide what you want come back and share your experiences with us.

_ **Your gc was issued! 🙂** _

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bulgariBLACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bulgariblack/32/2452_2.png) [@bulgariBLACK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bulgariBLACK)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/11 "2011-10-24T13:12:02Z")

</div>

OK, so I ordered the travel sizes of TUTH and IS. Was this a good combination? I was going to get the IG or the A314, but was persuaded by all of the incredible stories people have had with TUTH. Thanks for the help, and be on the lookout for my first [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) field report!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/12 "2011-10-24T15:45:33Z")

</div>

> [@bulgariBLACK](#):
>
> OK, so I ordered the travel sizes of TUTH and IS. Was this a good combination? I was going to get the IG or the A314, but was persuaded by all of the incredible stories people have had with TUTH. Thanks for the help, and be on the lookout for my first pheromone field report!

Tuth works well, but if you’re going to use it in the field, it wont take much for a guy your age probably (maybe 2 sprays tops) and I’d buffer it with a GOOD amount of IS. Like maybe 4 sprays. You’ll wanna test each one tho to figure out exactly what the best amount for ya is.

In a club where it’s packed and people are dancing and stuff, Tuth can be VERRRRRY useful.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bulgariBLACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bulgariblack/32/2452_2.png) [@bulgariBLACK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bulgariBLACK)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/13 "2011-10-24T19:31:30Z")

</div>

Wow, correct my previous post, I ordered AMMO and IS. I think I had TUTH in the cart but switched last minute. So can you explain or point me to where I can actually see which is which and why it does what it does?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/14 "2011-10-24T19:38:03Z")

</div>

> [@bulgariBLACK](#):
>
> Wow, correct my previous post, I ordered AMMO and IS. I think I had TUTH in the cart but switched last minute. So can you explain or point me to where I can actually see which is which and why it does what it does?

Here ya go! Tons of info here.

> [@Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802):
>
> AD offers a wide array of pheromones out there. There’s been more and more new users asking about products and what not. To start off here are some basic guides for pheromones. This is a great writeup by Steve O to test pheromones out that you receive. [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-sweet-spot/55943)[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/introduction-](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/about-the-introductions-new-users-say-hello-category/189702)[pheromones-names-size-strength-use-46373.html](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012) Here is also a guide to the molecules by toilofd…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-sizzlin/52930/15 "2011-10-24T19:58:24Z")

</div>

Go to the store and under each product there is a detailed description.
