# What's the best to use in this situation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 6, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536 "2010-04-06T01:40:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nsiderbassgs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nsiderbassgs/32/562_2.png) [@nsiderbassgs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nsiderbassgs)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/1 "2010-04-06T01:40:25Z")
**This summer I’m working as a counselor at a gymnastics camp. I’ve gone previous years but as a camper. A host of celebrity Olympians will be there, including a few that I’ve admired for a long while. Each will be there for a whole week. Since I’m a counselor this time around instead of a camper, I’ll have a lot more opportunities to get to know them personally and try to woo them over. I want to know what the best products to use in this situation are. I’m thinking start off with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IO to meet them. Then go with Ammo and IH as i get better acquainted with them. then I’m not sure after that. keep in mind** **that** **I’m 18 years old. Here are the targets:** **Nastia Liukin, Age 20, Shawn Johnson, Age 18 Alicia Sacramone, Age 22** **I’ve ordered IO, IH, TUTH, and Ammo a few days ago, but haven’t tested them out because they haven’t arrived yet. I’d like a combo preferably of what I already have, but I f you have other suggestions feel free to post. Thanks! 😃** ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/2 "2010-04-06T01:43:53Z")
> [@nsiderbassgs](#): > > **This summer I’m working as a counselor at a gymnastics camp. I’ve gone previous years but as a camper. A host of celebrity Olympians will be there, including a few that I’ve admired for a long while. Each will be there for a whole week. Since I’m a counselor this time around instead of a camper, I’ll have a lot more opportunities to get to know them personally and try to woo them over. I want to know what the best products to use in this situation are. I’m thinking start off with Ammo and IO to meet them. Then go with Ammo and IH as i get better acquainted with them. then I’m not sure after that. keep in mind** **that** **I’m 18 years old. Here are the targets:** > > **Nastia Liukin, Age 20,** > **Shawn Johnson, Age 18** > **Alicia Sacramone, Age 22** > > **I’ve ordered IO, IH, TUTH, and Ammo a few days ago, but haven’t tested them out because they haven’t arrived yet. I’d like a combo preferably of what I already have, but I f you have other suggestions feel free to post. Thanks! 😃** Good luck with that! 🙂 Actually, Ammo and IO might be good to get them talking but you may find that IH would also work because it helps build a sense of a bond between you. Short answer- sounds like you are on the right track. ---
**Author:** ![nsiderbassgs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nsiderbassgs/32/562_2.png) [@nsiderbassgs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nsiderbassgs)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/3 "2010-04-06T01:50:22Z")
i was thinking i could use progressively deeper mones throught the week. start with IO, then OH, then maybe a little TUTH added to IO/IH to get the sinched in. I’m not entirely sure though ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/4 "2010-04-06T01:59:56Z")
LOL. No one can say you have set your sights too low. All those women are younger and are very work/performance oriented. So too high a dose of 'none too early could easily chase them off and “romance” may well not be foremost on their minds. What I would do is run with a 50/50 mix of I. Openness and I. Honesty until you get to know them better. Then if you have the good fortune to do that come in with a an Ammo/I. Honesty combo. ---
**Author:** ![nsiderbassgs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nsiderbassgs/32/562_2.png) [@nsiderbassgs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nsiderbassgs)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/5 "2010-04-06T04:00:54Z")
What about A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) for the older ones, since they are a bit out of my league? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/6 "2010-04-06T04:52:37Z")
I would actually suggest the IG would be great INSTEAD of the Ammo, both in terms of your age and the young ages of the people you want to impress. Come to think of it, given how focused and goal oriented athletes of this level are, A314 might actually do the trick. It conveys power, value and status, which could communicate that you too are a focused, driven and goal oriented person (strong commonality to build off of) Buffer it lightly with IO and you add in a (..that’s also very easy to talk to) to the mix. Later as things progress switch from IO to IH for a sense of comfort, trust and connection. The A314 says who you are, the IO and IH help modify that depending on the situation. I’d actually consider avoiding none based products like Ammo and TuTH since being 18 and at your sexual peak you likely create a fair amount as it is, factor in that you’re a pretty fit and athletic 18 year old (I assume based on the situation you’re describing) and you’re none levels are likely sky high. At the most I’d say keep the TuTH handy and only go to it if it looks like sex is seriously on the agenda. ---
**Author:** ![nsiderbassgs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nsiderbassgs/32/562_2.png) [@nsiderbassgs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nsiderbassgs)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/7 "2010-04-06T22:29:45Z")
Thanks so much RADMAN! i just got my products today. They also included CTTM for free. (which I don’t know much about) what’s different about the one compared to IO and IH? I read on one post that it’s like a mix of the two, is that true? what advantages/disadvantages does it have? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/8 "2010-04-06T23:36:59Z")
Someone once mentioned that CTTM2 is better for dating than IO or IH. I don’t know where, but … it was somewhere ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/9 "2010-04-07T00:04:47Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I would actually suggest the IG would be great INSTEAD of the Ammo, both in terms of your age and the young ages of the people you want to impress. > Come to think of it, given how focused and goal oriented athletes of this level are, A314 might actually do the trick. It conveys power, value and status, which could communicate that you too are a focused, driven and goal oriented person (strong commonality to build off of) Buffer it lightly with IO and you add in a (..that’s also very easy to talk to) to the mix. Later as things progress switch from IO to IH for a sense of comfort, trust and connection. The A314 says who you are, the IO and IH help modify that depending on the situation. I’d actually consider avoiding none based products like Ammo and TuTH since being 18 and at your sexual peak you likely create a fair amount as it is, factor in that you’re a pretty fit and athletic 18 year old (I assume based on the situation you’re describing) and you’re none levels are likely sky high. At the most I’d say keep the TuTH handy and only go to it if it looks like sex is seriously on the agenda. Radman called the shot on …A314, personally I wouldn’t even go there without having some A314. I would say, Bugatti you’re not going 🙂, why bother? Think class and bring class; on second thought, I’ll go in place of you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-best-to-use-in-this-situation/37536/10 "2010-04-07T02:39:32Z")
> [@nsiderbassgs](#): > > Thanks so much RADMAN! i just got my products today. They also included CTTM for free. (which I don’t know much about) what’s different about the one compared to IO and IH? I read on one post that it’s like a mix of the two, is that true? what advantages/disadvantages does it have? IO is 70% Alpha nol 30% Beta nol and makes starting convo’s easier. It’s light fun and friendly IH is the reverse, mostly beta nol which creates feelings of rapport and connection. Makes conversations deeper and more intimate. CTTM2 is a 50/50 blend of nols, I read somewhere on here that it’s missing an ingredient that makes the IO and IH last longer. Not sure how true it is or not. Personally I like keeping IO and IH separate, it gives me more control of how the conversations go.