# What's the difference between androstenone (-none) and androsterone (-rone)?

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**Created:** [January 18, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-androstenone-none-and-androsterone-rone/1650 "2007-01-18T12:34:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-androstenone-none-and-androsterone-rone/1650/7 "2007-01-20T03:05:27Z")

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MuskCloud,  
from my post at [androsterone and men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androsterone-and-men/1034) :

\*From my experience with Chemistry-set Androsterone, it would give you:

- increases in attention from others;\*  
_- a non-threatening masculine presence which gives you none of the negative effects of Androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) such as appearing too aggressive or intimidating to young girls and betas in general (however without the sexual hits that you get from \*Androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/))_-rich products);  
_- a slight increase in respect although nowhere near as powerfull as the ‘fear’ kind of response that you get with_ Androstenone\* ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/))_;_  
_- also Androsterone seems to be good for giving a mix a charismatic kind of effect and seems to, as long as you dont wear too much, enhance the hits you get from other pheromones;_  
\*- it also seems to make other people stay away from your territory, a kind of spacing effect, especially at higher dosages where with some people I would almost get ‘invisibility’ type reactions;
- I definitely get a caffeine-like energy buzz/lift within the first hour of application of -Androsterone.

Now **A314** is completely different to straight -Androsterone. It seems to give a powerful ‘respect’ backbone to -Rone as well as a more high-value vibe. It is different in lots of other ways I am sure. In **A314** , Androtics tried to eliminate the worst aspects and enhance the best aspects of -Androsterone. And they should be congratulated in creating something so unique that you would think it is a completely separate pheromone when it is not.

Visionary\*

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