# What's the difference between old and new A314?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 4, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989 "2009-10-04T18:30:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/1 "2009-10-04T18:30:53Z")

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Since there’s no more -rone in Androtics’ products (did I get this correct?), what’s the difference between the new and the old A314 formula?

Correct me in my statements if you feel so, I hope I didn’t get the first part wrong.

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/2 "2009-10-04T18:55:17Z")

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OK… you must be confusing androsterone with copulins, Deeddy. 🙂 Androtics are out of cops, not androsterone.

I’m sure MHarris and Steve will let us know if they were making major changes to A314. It’s the company’s flagship.

Musk

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**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/3 "2009-10-04T19:05:18Z")

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what about [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). I thought it was based on AndrosteRone?

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/4 "2009-10-04T19:09:40Z")

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IFM is based on androstadienone.

Musk

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**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/5 "2009-10-04T19:11:52Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> IFM is based on androstadienone.
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> Musk

ouch, my bad! 🙂

btw, is there any difference between the old “straight in the face” A314 and the new more social version?

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/6 "2009-10-04T19:37:10Z")

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I find there are a few subtle, minor differences between the old and the new A314, but nothing too major. I commented on what I feel are the differences last week in my journal, if you’re interested here’s a link to the post: [WildFlower's Pheromone Experiences. - #164 by WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/164)

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-old-and-new-a314/32989/7 "2009-10-04T20:01:32Z")

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All versions of A314 have about 80% androstenone and 20% tweaking mones. Classic A314, still sold at LS, has 6 additional tweaking mones. The later variants have 16 more last I heard but these amounts seem to change with batches. The classic A314 is more in your face and I suspect may have a higher percentage of androstenone in that “other” 20%. The newer batches are more polite and social. After all, with 16 or so steering mones in 20% you can’t have much more than trace amounts.

I greatly prefer classic A314 for work. It helps me put on a more authoritative face (and smells better too). If I need to mellow it for dating/parties I can always add TAA and/or a-nol.