# What's the most complex mix you ever used? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 6, 2006, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654 "2006-09-06T08:16:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2006, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/1 "2006-09-06T08:16:29Z")
The most complex mix I have ever used is Seduction Mix #6. It has ten different ingredients in it, and almost every one of them has multiple [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in them. I estimate it must have at least 15 different pheromones in it, but I don’t know for sure. By the way, Mix #6 has only been tested in the most cursory fashion, that is, one drop on the back of my hand, but it smells _good_… almost sweet. I got a thumbs up from one of my “sniffers” who I rely on to tell me what women will think a mix smells like, too, she also liked the scent. It’s intriguing, because it’s not very strong, and you are trying to figure out what it smells like… there’s the hint of something nice… and all the while, the pheromones are going up your nose while you try and try to figure it out. I don’t know what its effects are yet, but I am estimating it will be quite enjoyable. If it works as well as I think it will, and does what I think it will, I’m going to have to have some serious “Hey, ladies, would you lend your opinion of this cologne I’m considering buying?” sessions at the mall. Heh heh heh. Anyway, back on topic… what’s the most complex mix you ever tried, and how many pheromones did it have in it? What sort of results did you get from it? ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/2 "2006-09-06T23:42:55Z")
My best mix will probably be the one that you made for me with what i own. I have sent you a PM for confirmation to see if it can be made better.😃 2 drops A314 (or a spray or two of the MX102 if you have that) 5-10 mcg of tal 4 sprays CTTM2 1-2 sprays tuth 13 types of pheromones LOL How am i supposed to apply them though? Can i just spray them all over my chest? I will also wear 3 pheromone lip balm LOL. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/3 "2006-09-07T03:18:00Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > My best mix will probably be the one that you made for me with what i own. I have sent you a PM for confirmation to see if it can be made better.😃 > > 2 drops A314 (or a spray or two of the MX102 if you have that) > 5-10 mcg of tal > 4 sprays CTTM2 > 1-2 sprays Turn Up The Heat > > 13 types of pheromones LOL > > How am i supposed to apply them though? Can i just spray them all over my chest? > > I will also wear 3 pheromone lip balm LOL. The revision I made to my suggestion should be better. Try 6 or 8 sprays of CTTM2 sometime, on your forearms, and see how everyone around you acts! ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2006, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/4 "2006-09-07T13:01:34Z")
my complexity is incidental. i start with Isexi, mostly because theres no chance i’ll get wishy washy. an hour or 2 later i add IH, and sometimes TAH. then i will finish the day depending on the atmosphere with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) if its busy (just to sniff myself) or Ishine if company will be in my imediate surroundings. reading what i wrote, it looks as if the most 'mones i use are on the ishine days? not sure how many that is total, but thats my most complex day. the reactions are pretty much dependable and always very positive. except the day i found out more isexi is better. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/5 "2006-09-08T04:21:39Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > The revision I made to my suggestion should be better. Try 6 or 8 sprays of CTTM2 sometime, on your forearms, and see how everyone around you acts! Negative or positive results? Not ready to die if it causes someone to come up and talk me to death. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/6 "2006-09-08T07:20:49Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Negative or positive results? Not ready to die if it causes someone to come up and talk me to death. 🆒 I consider the results very positive. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/7 "2006-09-08T07:21:48Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > my complexity is incidental. > i start with Instant Sexiness, mostly because theres no chance i’ll get wishy washy. > an hour or 2 later i add Instant Honesty, and sometimes TAH. then i will finish the day depending on the atmosphere with Ammo if its busy (just to sniff myself) or Instant Shine if company will be in my imediate surroundings. > reading what i wrote, it looks as if the most 'mones i use are on the Instant Shine days? not sure how many that is total, but thats my most complex day. > the reactions are pretty much dependable and always very positive. > except the day i found out more Instant Sexiness is better. How does TAH make you respond by itself? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/8 "2006-09-08T18:36:17Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > How does TAH make you respond by itself? jury isnt out on that. its positive, but not overwhelming. i like it so i add it to alot, but for myself i havent been knocked over. its subtle. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/9 "2006-09-09T21:58:13Z")
If the jury isn’t out, then they must have come back with a response. So what is it? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/10 "2006-09-09T22:08:29Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > If the jury isn’t out, then they must have come back with a response. So what is it? i used it differently today. istead of wearing it on my body, i sprayed it in my face. aprox. 15 minutes later, i felt a little _incentive_. i wanted to _do_ . i was extremely hyper, and it did mellow me out some, but it felt like if i wasnt hyper it might have given me energy. does that make sense? it was less about using energy, and more about accomplishing something. i couldnt tell if it was sexual, because it isnt a day of the month i would see _anything_ as sexual,lol, so i’ll have to try again tomorow. Been wearing Ammo lately though, i feel both androgynous AND sexual with it on. Like the angel in Constantine. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/11 "2006-09-15T01:51:39Z")
I have to say, the more complex the mixes I make, the better they seem to work. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/12 "2006-09-15T05:05:05Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I have to say, the more complex the mixes I make, the better they seem to work. And I’d say, the simplest works better for me. So it depends on who we are, who with, and many other things. I use one or two products, usually the single phero’s ones, nomore. When I tried 3, 4, more .. the more I go, the less ‘focus’ of the main effect I’m intending. Maybe worth mentioning is that those simple mixes work a little differently depending on which essential oil or cologne I use with them, and that expands the variations. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/13 "2006-09-15T06:07:58Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > And I’d say, the simplest works better for me. So it depends on who we are, who with, and many other things. > > I use one or two products, usually the single phero’s ones, nomore. > > When I tried 3, 4, more .. the more I go, the less ‘focus’ of the main effect I’m intending. > > Maybe worth mentioning is that those simple mixes work a little differently depending on which essential oil or cologne I use with them, and that expands the variations. My experience coincides with what Michael says - the extremes of simplicity or complexity work best. Maybe you haven’t explored enough complexity in your complex mixes? Of course, individual chemistry may just make it better for you to go the simple route. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/14 "2006-09-15T06:33:02Z")
Sometimes I tried complex mixes, but while I could see them working, effects were not what I like, which is keeping things simple, focussed, intending one or two responses, not an array all in one go. Matter of preference really, or personality match. Strange analogy, but I do the same with the food I eat. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/15 "2006-09-15T08:11:05Z")
I think it is best to leave out some mones when it comes to **attraction**. Beta-Androstenol is one example - since i removed this from my mixes, things have been smoother - quality of conversations has decreased though but who cares I am going more where I want to go with the ladies. A314 as well - this is an awesome product for work but I feel it gets in the way when it come to attraction with some women; I have seen some good responses though from successful, confident women but it may be something to leave out for actual attraction and hookup purposes. Too many mones just make things too complex and like Mak says there is no consistent simple, focused effect. At the moment I am trying a simple mix: Spaceland Alpha Androstenol for the social, spacey, and romantic vibe; [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for comfort, intimacy and female mood lift; P79 sprayed a few times at low doses as per Scottie2Hottie’s recommendation for some kind of masculine, focused, arousing vibe. That’s all you need for attraction I think: Sociability, Romance, Comfort, and Arousal. No need to go overboard with the kitchen sink. If I started putting in another few products, the primary effects of the BIG 3 would to be diluted. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-most-complex-mix-you-ever-used/654/16 "2006-09-15T08:32:08Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > I think it is best to leave out some mones when it comes to **attraction**. Beta-Androstenol is one example - since i removed this from my mixes, things have been smoother - quality of conversations has decreased though but who cares I am going more where I want to go with the ladies. > A314 as well - this is an awesome product for work but I feel it gets in the way when it come to attraction with some women; I have seen some good responses though from successful, confident women but it may be something to leave out for actual attraction and hookup purposes. > > Too many mones just make things too complex and like Mak says there is no consistent simple, focused effect. > > At the moment I am trying a simple mix: > Spaceland Alpha Androstenol for the social, spacey, and romantic vibe; > Instant Female Magic for comfort, intimacy and female mood lift; > P79 sprayed a few times at low doses as per Scottie2Hottie’s recommendation for some kind of masculine, focused, arousing vibe. > > That’s all you need for attraction I think: Sociability, Romance, Comfort, and Arousal. No need to go overboard with the kitchen sink. If I started putting in another few products, the primary effects of the BIG 3 would to be diluted. > > Visionary I suppose you have a point, in that the A314 does darken the mix and weed out some women. Beta-nol also makes things more serious. I guess I’ll have to try leaving them out of Mix 7. I had fantastic results with Alpha nol, cops, IShine and IFM mixed together. I’ll have to go back and play with those some more, and throw in some p79. I am getting consistent results from Mix 6 though.