# What's the story behind A1? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159 "2011-11-06T00:48:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/1 "2011-11-06T00:48:16Z")
I noticed that if someone mentions A1, the link sends me to an AD product that is intended to be used in place of A1. Was there a primarily A1 product that was pulled from the store? ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/2 "2011-11-06T01:33:31Z")
I think AD used to carry A1 (Androstadienone) but due to the minority of men experiencing depression as a side effect, as well as a purported issue with a preexisting patent on the use of A1 with fragrance, they no longer carry it (I may be wrong here.) Lovescent does, and so does Alchemy Labs. There are guides on its’ dilution here as well. ---
**Author:** ![dfredi5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@dfredi5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfredi5000)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/3 "2011-11-06T02:03:00Z")
Yeah the depressive side effects were the main reason and people using it for that reason. Intentional abuse of the product what I don’t understand is how they are now using it in scented body wash. I think I read somewhere that it had run out but idk if that is true or not… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/4 "2011-11-06T02:30:25Z")
I still have a nearly full bottle of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) as well as chemset A1. It’s one of the few mones I use that has very predictable outcomes: a total yawn for social and sexual use but an amazing molecule for fostering female comfort and relaxation during her monthly punishment. In other words, it consistently uplifts female moods during her hormonal upheavals and nixs bitch from hell within seconds. I’ve not experienced any depression symptoms, even with extreme doses. Realize A1 is known to be the most common natural mone on male skin and I know zero guys prone to depression if they miss a shower. Of course, using unnaturally high dosage must bother a minority of men, hence the depression complaints. Instant Female Magic is one of the worse smelling products ever. Most be the buffers as chemset A1 merely smells of light BO. ---
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/5 "2011-11-06T04:27:27Z")
Yeah, A1 and none have a similar smell to me, and I use A1 as a gay male to generate comfort and ‘coziness’ feelings in myself and target audiences, generally. Really predictable, I’d agree as well. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/6 "2011-11-06T11:18:41Z")
> [@dfredi5000](#): > > Yeah the depressive side effects were the main reason and people using it for that reason. Intentional abuse of the product what I don’t understand is how they are now using it in scented body wash. I think I read somewhere that it had run out but idk if that is true or not… Because it didnt cause depression in a clinical sense. It causes a down feeling or blue feeling in a small percentage of men usually making them more quiet and introspective. It passes quickly and is not permanent. The intentional abuse was the opinion of the owner and never factually proven and derived more from [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) companies feuding. The consumer should have never been subject to these feuds but unfortunately we were and lots of misinformation was released because of it. The mistake made with A1 is the more is better mentality some people tend to have with mones. To much of **any mone** can have an opposite type effect. Anone for instance used in the right dosage can make you feel powerful and aggressive. To much can make you feel agitated angry and confrontational. Anol can make you feel at ease happy and outgoing. To much can make you go into a zoned out introverted state. TAA has a crash effect. To much arone can make you cold and emotionless. Shall I go on ??? Its not the mone its the “to much” part of the equation that is bad. A1 is fine as long as you keep the dosage with in reason. Dial keeps it within reason. Singling it out as the “bad mone” was wrong in my opinion and hypocritical when other mones are being sold that have negative effects when misused as well. Dont take them off the shelf. Teach people to use them correctly. JMO. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mayro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@mayro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mayro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/7 "2011-11-06T13:07:26Z")
> [@21wq](#): > > I noticed that if someone mentions A1, the link sends me to an AD product that is intended to be used in place of A1. Was there a primarily A1 product that was pulled from the store? Hi nice to see I m not the only one who was curious about A1. I got Great help from this forum and from mobocaster. Find below link from Ktrain very very helpful to understand A1 and how to mix, dilute it. > [@Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668): > > I’ve been thinking about doing this for the longest time but recent events have finally pushed me to do this. In an effort to cut down on the repeated questions, but at the same time encourage more result oriented posts I am making this A-1 guide. Please remember I am NOT a scientist, but merely a tester who is reporting what he’s seen and also info gathered from other fellow members. Table of Contents Section 1: What is A-1? Section 2: What are the effects of A-1? Section 3: When is the bes… > [@The A1 Mix Repository](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-a1-mix-repository/42465): > > I saw the thread [Mx297 mix respitory](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-mix-respitory/39239) and concluded it is very wise to have a thread to discuss one certain product in relation to and mixed with other products. Ofcourse we must not forget K-Train also has an excellent guide out: [Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) Currently I have a bottle of 10ml Androstadienone on the way and I am very curious as to how that [pheromone](https://a314.com/) will work out for me. Androstenone doesn’t seem to work for, or I am doing something wrong with it. Androsterone does seem to work for me,… ~mayro ---
**Author:** ![leaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@leaf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leaf)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-the-story-behind-a1/53159/8 "2011-11-06T15:15:39Z")
A1’s good for people who OD easy like me… I have O+ blood type and i can OD on just 2 sprays of ammo i use high amount of buffering like IS or IH..