# Whats up pple, could use a hand deciding what to get :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [April 26, 2012, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396 "2012-04-26T09:51:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/1 "2012-04-26T09:51:07Z")
Hi pple, New to the world of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and would like a hand on what to get for my first buy… it all looks sooo good 😛. About me 24 M Aussie, in the process of losing a lot of weight and looking to hit the town with a vengeance… just looking to have some fun. Anyway was thinking of getting The Killer Pheromone Newbie Kit so I can try a number of them see what I like and go from there… thoughts? Pretty excited tbh maybe soon I’ll be a pro 😉 Anyway peace out. TM ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/2 "2012-04-26T10:02:08Z")
Hey mogleyzw, welcome to the board! You’ve come to the best community on the forefront of the Pheromone scene. There is a huge wealth of information here, the search function is your best friend. AD offers the best [Pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) IMO, they’re are all really great in my experience. I believe they actually offer a New user kit of some kind that offers you a taste of the entire instant line. Look it up in the store, not sure if they still have it or not. My favorite combo is certainly Ammo and IS. Also a big fan of IO, IH, IJ and TUTH. Recently experimented with A314 and P83 for the first time and those will certainly be permanent fixtures in my arsenal from now on. Just read away on here and you will find whatever information you are looking for. If you can’t find it, just ask away. People here are unbelievably generous in giving their honest opinions…Good luck and welcome again! ps. Also, you qualify for the $25 credit, there is a link on the main page explaining what you need to do to get it. Edit, Sorry I didn’t realize that was actually the name of the new user kit…I would get that, it’s a great value with great products. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/3 "2012-04-26T10:03:01Z")
Love to hear from an Aussie in the forum, Welcome! Great Kit, that one. I wish I had an opportunity to get it when I first started out. I can see that you will likely take a bath in mones the first times. 🙂 To qualify for the GC, you’ll need to let us know a bit about your personality and what you wish to accomplish with the mones. Oh, and how’d you find this site, BTW? And I can see you now getting everyone all cheery and giggly with the mones! 😃 1Alpha ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/4 "2012-04-26T10:15:24Z")
Hello Mogley and welcome to the forum. You guys down under really should start a phero club. There are enough of you around. Do some checking - there are several members here from australia. The starter kit would be a great way to get your feet wet with these products. It provides a pretty good cross section of products - enough to start experiementing and see which ones you like the best. Just finish answering the questions 1Alpha mention and you will get a GC to help with that purchase. ---
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/5 "2012-04-26T11:12:20Z")
That was quick thanks for the warm welcoming. What I want to achieve with mones? Its always been something I’ve always wanted to try tbh. Like I said currently going through a body transformation and hope they will help with my confidence. Not that its low (I work in sales) but i think my social life could use a bit of help. What I want to accomplish “The Perfect Week” - no, dont really know. Like I said its something I have always wanted to try. I dont really know what to expect. I mean after reading a few of the threads im expecting magic but I know with everything you have to put in some effort. How I found this sight… honestly dont really remember… asked a question about mixing different ones in google and was brought to this page… Bought some mones yesterday from another website, kinda regretting it now, wish I had done more research. Not that they are bad, my brothers rates one really high and there are couple of posts here about the other one Edge. But a complete package… I like the way everything is laid out here telling you exactly what to used in what situation… Laughed when i read not to use TUTH at work or around kids sounds pretty potent. I just had a question about the Killer [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) Newbie Kit - how big is each bottle. It would be great having a complete set like that to try everything and get a better idea of what I want for my next order (who knows I may love Instant Jerk). I just want to know if there were be enough for more than one application. PS customer service here is awesome… 10 minutes before the first reply good for you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/6 "2012-04-26T11:28:10Z")
I think the newbie kit is all in 5ml togos - Enough to get you started with each one. I did suggest they did a version with a 30ml of IS as it is liable to be the one to run out first because it complements so many of the others so well. What other pheros did you get could well be we know them well and can help you dovetail them with AD products - Edge is well respected and goes well with many AD pheros - Any of the NPA threads will give you plenty ideas as Edge is simply NPA diluted 1+5 in a proprietary scent. ---
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/7 "2012-04-26T11:44:23Z")
Just read a post about it being okay to talk about other websites… probably guessed it was lovescent. I got the only combos they do Chikara + The Edge Trust and there beginner one the Edge (original) and Super Primal Musk (?) contains androstenol… So you think a big IS would be good too… Shippings a bit of a bitch so getting a decent order now would be better than getting something which lasts 1 night out. What are all the experimental ones? CTTM sounds like it would be pretty awesome too. And what are [Putative Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/)? They do not really have descriptions on what each one does. ---
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/8 "2012-04-26T11:47:05Z")
Dont worry just read another post on [Putative Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) (pretty through forum here) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/9 "2012-04-26T13:10:08Z")
> [@mogleyzw](#): > > Just read a post about it being okay to talk about other websites… probably guessed it was lovescent. I got the only combos they do Chikara + The Edge Trust and there beginner one the Edge (original) and Super Primal Musk (?) contains androstenol… > > So you think a big IS would be good too… Shippings a bit of a bitch so getting a decent order now would be better than getting something which lasts 1 night out. What are all the experimental ones? CTTM sounds like it would be pretty awesome too. And what are Putative Pheromones? They do not really have descriptions on what each one does. OK - Out of them, I know Super Primal Musk and have had some good results using it as a moderator in togo mixes alongside NPA, A1 and from AD, Androstenone, Androsterone and other stuff that escapes me just now. On its own, I got good bright friendly/chatty hits from both sexes and actually found it quite useful in the work environment around my younger colleagues. I’ve used between eight and eighteen drops per togo - Tend towards 12 and upwards for the most effective. Yes, get a 30ml of IS and maybe an empty togo so you can decant a few sprays to carry about with you. As well as being the most all-round phero in AD’s range and so useful alongside so many other products, IS is shorter acting than most other pheros and you will probably need to be topping-up on the three hour scale as opposed to more like five or six hours for other products. ---
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/10 "2012-04-27T01:31:47Z")
> [@sheenis-envy](#): > > Hey mogleyzw, welcome to the board! You’ve come to the best community on the forefront of the Pheromone scene. There is a huge wealth of information here, the search function is your best friend. AD offers the best Pheromone products IMO, they’re are all really great in my experience. > > I believe they actually offer a New user kit of some kind that offers you a taste of the entire instant line. Look it up in the store, not sure if they still have it or not. My favorite combo is certainly Ammo and IS. Also a big fan of IO, IH, IJ and TUTH. Recently experimented with A314 and P83 for the first time and those will certainly be permanent fixtures in my arsenal from now on. Just read away on here and you will find whatever information you are looking for. If you can’t find it, just ask away. People here are unbelievably generous in giving their honest opinions…Good luck and welcome again! > > ps. Also, you qualify for the $25 credit, there is a link on the main page explaining what you need to do to get it. > > Edit, Sorry I didn’t realize that was actually the name of the new user kit…I would get that, it’s a great value with great products. Good luck Can you tell me a bit about [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). I’ve been reading about it but no one had really said anything about its effects. ---
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/11 "2012-04-27T01:34:38Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > OK - Out of them, I know Super Primal Musk and have had some good results using it as a moderator in togo mixes alongside NPA, A1 and from AD, Androstenone, Androsterone and other stuff that escapes me just now. On its own, I got good bright friendly/chatty hits from both sexes and actually found it quite useful in the work environment around my younger colleagues. I’ve used between eight and eighteen drops per togo - Tend towards 12 and upwards for the most effective. > > Yes, get a 30ml of IS and maybe an empty togo so you can decant a few sprays to carry about with you. As well as being the most all-round phero in AD’s range and so useful alongside so many other products, IS is shorter acting than most other pheros and you will probably need to be topping-up on the three hour scale as opposed to more like five or six hours for other products. Thanks for the help I just had one more question would getting togos and premixing be better than layering different mones? I know I still a beginner and I’m probably getting a bit too technical but I just wanted to know what the best way to apply multiple mones was. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/12 "2012-04-27T01:44:52Z")
Nope - Layering is far better. Once you have an idea of what works best for you, it is perfectly possible to combine the appropriate amount of sprays in a togo to carry around with you for topups/weekend etc but TBH, it is unwise to mix more than a few days worth ahead - The whole lot could end-up being wasted if you decide to change something or introduce a new component. The only thing to remember with layering is that you need to keep alcohol and oil base application points apart. Spraying alc over oil (or vice versa) just wrecks diffusion. This isn’t a great problem as most of ADs products are alcohol based and can be layered freely - currently only A314 is sold in oil but if you are using any other make of oil base, you need to watch. ---
**Author:** ![mogleyzw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@mogleyzw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mogleyzw)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/13 "2012-04-27T01:58:08Z")
Thank you, Just completed my first order the newbie kit and IS as you recommended along with a couple of togos and pipettes (just thought I get it all out of the way - and the gift certificate did help 😃). Cant wait till they arrive and I can try them all out. Just a quick question on what to use when - I work in a mobile retail store (commission) and bartender at a nightclub (tips) - with what I have, what would you recommend in each place of work so I can get a bit of an edge. I will try them all individually but maybe this will help me put them in some type of order of trying (after this is answered we can mark this post as ANSWERED 😉). ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up-pple-could-use-a-hand-deciding-what-to-get/55396/14 "2012-04-30T16:08:15Z")
Welcome to pherotalk mogle! I am glad you got all the advise you need and that your order is already on it’s way. Please be sure to share your experiences with us as soon as you start testing. _ **Your gc was issued!** _