# Whats UP

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [April 9, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779 "2011-04-09T00:57:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![ladiesman217](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@ladiesman217](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladiesman217)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/1 "2011-04-09T00:57:30Z")

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So, new here, been checking things out for a few days, and finely got a bit of time to register and say hi.  
I have been looking at a few products, and would love some advice. I am a rock climber, and living in portland or, spend all winter in the climbing gym because its cold and rainy out. So, heres the deal. I am recently separated from my wife, and want to start meeting new people (mostly females), but don’t want to get overly sexual right off the bat. My ex wife and I are known at the gym as a couple, and the last thing I want to do is hurt her by “moving on to quickly”. On the other hand, I would love to make climbing more social and fun, and I naturally get along better with girls.  
I’m think a mix of A314 to wear in everyday life to boost respect, and some instant shine or IO or IH to get people all chat chat. I’m also looking at some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for clubbing, dancing, etc. where I’m not know. Would this be a good mix? and which would work best IO, IS, IH?  
I’v also been seeing threads about P83 and P74 I think? whats up with those, they sound like fun.  
Want to make my first order this weekend, but will need to keep it under a hundo, so probably no more then 3 products. I guess I just want to get the most bang for my first bucks.  
Thanks all, I’m glad to be a part of this great forum.  
~E

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/2 "2011-04-09T01:10:49Z")

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Hi Ladiesman - Welcome to Pherotalk. 🙂

Well it looks like you have done your research and I can’t really fault your conclusions.

The only points for clarification/consideration might be:

A314 for daily life - I presume you mean the oil? IS does help lighten it but would need refreshed several times each day. Which can leave you/others feeling burned out after a while. IH also goes well but I’m not convinced about IO.

Ammo is indeed good for clubbing and is complemented superbly by IS and IH. IO and IG also work well.

P83 and P74 are putatives - effectively still under evaluation, try them and tell us what you find. There are several threads on each if you want to find others opinions.

If you are wanting to enhance your social interaction without overly sexual overtones, maybe also consider [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/390 (same thing, different scents) IME this mix works really well but again, as an experimental, we need to know how you get on.

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**Author:** ![ladiesman217](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@ladiesman217](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladiesman217)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/3 "2011-04-09T02:11:28Z")

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Cool, thanks for the info.  
Real quick, whats the difference between the A314 oil and the spray? I noticed the oil costs a lot more but I presume it lasts a lot longer as well? any other differences?  
Ill check out the [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)/390 and will report on my findings.

~E

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/4 "2011-04-09T04:15:03Z")

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> [@ladiesman217](#):
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> Cool, thanks for the info.  
> Real quick, whats the difference between the A314 oil and the spray? I noticed the oil costs a lot more but I presume it lasts a lot longer as well? any other differences?  
> Ill check out the MX297/390 and will report on my findings.
> 
> ~E

Hey and hi 🆒 Ladiesman217 😃 is that a Transformers or Shia LeBeouf reference? 😃

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**Author:** ![ladiesman217](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@ladiesman217](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladiesman217)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/5 "2011-04-09T07:57:34Z")

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Yup, It’s silly, but I love that movie. I’m a total gear head, so robots and cars pared with Megan Fox, whats not to love…

~E

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/6 "2011-04-09T08:06:13Z")

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> [@ladiesman217](#):
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> Yup, It’s silly, but I love that movie. I’m a total gear head, so robots and cars pared with Megan Fox, whats not to love…
> 
> ~E

Hey, I love that movie too 😃 I like the robots, the sfx and of course. Josh is easy on the eyes 🆒 just lettin you know, someone got it 😉

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/7 "2011-04-09T10:22:50Z")

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Hi Ladiesman, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

You made some good choices. A314, IO, IH and Ishine are great.

I would start with those and then move onto the advanced stuff. The advanced products are for testing and they do not fall under the guarantee. Generally we tell people to get a good feel for how to use the guaranteed consumer products first before jumping into those because you need some experience with mones to be able to pick up on the various patterns and vibes with the advanced. Its like learning to walk before you run. 😉

[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and P83 are single molecule putatives. They are not mixes but are used more to steer other molecules in a general direction. These I really suggest you try after you learn to use the consumer stuff.

I would consider AMMO for attraction thats just mildly sexual. It peeks a girls interest gives a nice masculine alluring vibe.

If you have questions just ask. We look forward to your participation

Tisha

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**Author:** ![ladiesman217](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@ladiesman217](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladiesman217)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/8 "2011-04-09T18:44:12Z")

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Hello

Hello everyone, I’m new here. Glad to be a part of this great forum, and excited to start trying out the products. I’m mostly interested in the social mones, focusing on getting people to open up and talk to me. I’ve always been successful with outgoing and talkative people, and would like to expand on that a little. Looking at a first order of IO, Instant Gentlemen, and Ammo, thinking the first two will be a good work/daytime combo, and adding in the ammo will spice up the night life. Second order maybe some A314 and Turn up the heat?  
Anyway, glad to have found such an awesome forum for this, been interested for a long time, but never knew how to get started. Reading through all the other threads has been a great learning experience. Thanks  
~E

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**Author:** ![ladiesman217](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@ladiesman217](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladiesman217)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/9 "2011-04-09T18:49:42Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Hi Ladiesman, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂
> 
> You made some good choices. A314, IO, IH and Ishine are great.
> 
> I would start with those and then move onto the advanced stuff. The advanced products are for testing and they do not fall under the guarantee. Generally we tell people to get a good feel for how to use the guaranteed consumer products first before jumping into those because you need some experience with mones to be able to pick up on the various patterns and vibes with the advanced. Its like learning to walk before you run. 😉
> 
> P74 and P83 are single molecule putatives. They are not mixes but are used more to steer other molecules in a general direction. These I really suggest you try after you learn to use the consumer stuff.
> 
> I would consider AMMO for attraction thats just mildly sexual. It peeks a girls interest gives a nice masculine alluring vibe.
> 
> If you have questions just ask. We look forward to your participation
> 
> Tisha

Thanks Tisha for the advice, it makes a lot of sense. I’m thinking my first order will be IO, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), and Ammo to get me started. Thinking the first two to use during the day and at work, then adding the Ammo for nighttime and social situations. Second order maybe A314 and Turn up the heat? then ill get into the more advanced mixes later on once I know what I’m getting myself into 🙂

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**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/10 "2011-04-10T09:46:56Z")

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Hi ladiesman217 and welcome to the community!

A little bit of information on the nature of your job and maybe your personality would be great so we can better advise you on your purchase.

May i include a recommendation? Personally, i would add shine in. Shine is great because it puts everyone (and yourself too if you get the self effects) in a good mood and it makes them want to have you around. I find people so much more helpful and pleasant to work with than with just gentlemen alone. I honestly feel naked if i leave for work without this combo!

I haven’t had the chance to try out IO yet though. I threw in IH to my IS+IG mix just randomly one day. I met a competing sales rep who was really quite eager to share with me his knowledge lol. It really looked like he wouldn’t stop talking so i had to tell him i had to go.

Have fun finding your sweet spot! It’s really worth the patience!

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**Author:** ![Hart](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hart/32/1409_2.png) [@Hart](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hart)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/11 "2011-04-10T12:24:20Z")

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Welcome to the forums Ladiesman,  
I think your choice of Instant Openness is a good one however i also like Instant Shine as it really has self effects as well as effecting others. It really puts people in a good mood around you and to me is pure gold for socialising. Instant Openness will definitely have people talking to you more readily be careful where you apply it however or else you may become a chatterbox yourself 🙂  
[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) can give you a more male aura in a very non threatening almost fatherly way. AMMO will definitely give you an edge at night especially if you mix it with Instant Openness or Instant Shine.  
All in all i would add Instant Shine to your first order and you should be cooking!!  
Good luck and enjoy!!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-up/49779/12 "2011-04-13T17:50:24Z")

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Hi thanks for joining PheroTalk. In normal situations Mickaelia, one of our forum hosts, would stop by and personally welcome you, but she has been out the last few days. I’m sorry that nobody else has been able to swing by and welcome you properly and offer you personalized assistance. I’ve been doing my job and Mickaelia’s for the past three days and I guess everybody else was just to busy to help out ☹.

With that said I do know that Mickaelia had the foresight to issue your GC to your registered forum email address on Sunday. You should check your SPAM box, as it sometimes has a way of ending up there, if you haven’t seen it yet. I totally appreciate your patience in this matter. While it would have been super-awesome for others to step up to the plate and offer assistance, it didn’t happen for whatever reason. Please do not let this influence you as to the community we actually are.

In the meantime if you don’t see your GC by end of the day today, please send a PM to Mickaelia to look into it when she returns. I’m really unsure when that is going to be, but hopefully soon. I will not be able to answer any PM’s about missing GC’s until I am caught up with the regular ones. This can seriously take a week so it would be better to contact Mickaelia. I will do my best to help out though 🙂.

I have one of the busiest PM boxes on the forum and asking for personalized help via PM, will just be met with a reply to post it on the forum. It’s not that I don’t want to help you, but I simply don’t have the time to answer PM’s and still help people on the forum. I totally appreciate your patience and understanding, but I didn’t want to leave our newest community members waiting in the wings. I’m just glad I was able to step up to the plate myself and at least keep you informed of this situation 🙂.

Welcome to PheroTalk

PS: I combined your intro threads
