# When is Androtics releasing a new product ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 7, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590 "2010-04-07T23:02:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/1 "2010-04-07T23:02:48Z")
They’re been experimenting and getting mountains of feedback… is a new, branded 30 ml product ever going to appear as a results of all the work ? Instant Hyperspace Orgasm ? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/2 "2010-04-07T23:53:57Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > Instant Hyperspace Orgasm ? > > 😕 Would be hell of a release. I second 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/3 "2010-04-08T00:05:27Z")
MAybe they do the R&D and bid out to larger more established companies to market products. Paris Hilton’s last perfume was mone enhanced… ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/4 "2010-04-08T14:28:09Z")
you’d think they’d have a pretty damn good in house database by now… considering some of the batches I’ve brewed up for myself that, ahhhhh… serve their purposes quite pleasingly well, def. more complex than the directions energized by the standard releases, I’d say that there is plenty of upside to explore. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/5 "2010-04-08T14:50:17Z")
Its actually kind of fishy. They have a bunch of big hit MX’s that some users would definitely pay a premium for. Why they aren’t readily available is weird as hell. I know I’d be willing to pay for MX301 30ml. Edit: Also wasn’t there plans to make AMMO commercial? I bet they would do very well if they tried. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/6 "2010-04-08T15:10:39Z")
As long as I’ve been on this forum, I can’t ever remember Tacitus asking for too much. Him asking for new products is making me very nervous. 🙄 Are the suppliers really that bad? > [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Its actually kind of fishy. That right there! :o Can someone bug the next meeting? I’d just like to know if time is running short as for shopping here? Something that ONLY MHARRIS, JAS, and maybe a few others can answer. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/7 "2010-04-08T16:57:44Z")
If I were to take a wild guess, there are enough different products in the consumer line to cover the basic needs of all pheromone users already. General Purpose Attractant - Ammo Male Dominance / Sexual - Instant Jerk Male Protector - [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Overtly Sexual - TUTH Social - IH, IO Feel Good - IS Business, Pecking Order Booster - A314 This product line will cover the vast majority of user’s needs. For advanced users there are the putatives of course. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/8 "2010-04-08T17:22:48Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Can someone bug the next meeting? I’d just like to know if time is running short as for shopping here? Something that ONLY MHARRIS, JAS, and maybe a few others can answer. ☹ And that’s something that we’ll unfortunately never know M&M, so might as well give up now… ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/9 "2010-04-08T17:47:15Z")
MX292 = Instant Visual Appeal = Instant Attractiveness = Instant Hot Guy 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/10 "2010-04-08T17:59:27Z")
welllll… my personal VSOP stash now includes this here whup ass “liquid entertainment” that has to be the finely tweaked kitchen sink to end all kitchen sink microbrews… verrrry smooth, lots of little grace notes like P126 and other lesser explored components, [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) is in it, P86, P96 also included, meo-est, a-none, p74, a couple of bottles of virginia cutler’s athena male and female juice, a nice fat TAH presence, and everything else too… I ended up with about 40 ml of droppering, spraying, rebalancing… has just about some of everything ever discussed, maybe p103… I have no idea at this point… it took on a life of its own at some point… I do know that there is so much matter dissolved in the carrier that it begins to crystallize if I cool it too much… did I put any P119 in there ?, I might have… lots of a-nol, a touch of b-nol, a hefty TAA squirt, a pinch of TAL, I think one drop of dienol which can have a wonderfully smoothing coordinating effect against the masculine yang parts… Anyhoo… what do I call thee ? Instant Sodomy cometh to mind… it is soooo smooth on the up ramp, you have no idea anything is happening (although the cat picked up on it right away and displayed very eccentric behavior such as running all around the room like it was after mice then diving under the bed… was cat hallucinating?)… Sex… ah yes… sex… ummm… well, in less evolved minds it might be experienced as filthy, filthy, sinful, hellbound, uninhibited, mind warping, filthy greasy dirty the best parts of well written pornography do me like your porn star slut baby sex… you know, the kind your parents tried to warn you about… totally the wrong side of the tracks stuff… stuff you might get into if you got good and drunk but otherwise would be tortured by a disapproving superego telling you that you were going to be tossed into a live volcano in the afterlife for letting yourself go like that sex… OTOH, from the sensitive female earth goddess Gaia wisdom point of view we might think of it as merging with the Eternal Feminine Moonfruit Psychic Connection As Expressed In The Liberated Physical Moment sex, where fossilized energetic boundaries melt away allowing the glowing Pranic cores that energize the soul to dissolve millenia of repressive patriarchy… or whatever that shit is they go on about at the new age bookstore… Either way you slice it… if you’re headed there, this is like an express ticket in first class… Does it ALWAYS work ?.. nope… I was spending the evening with the most beautiful thang about a month ago, knock the breath out of you beautiful woman, Swedish Italian… stunning piece of work… most useless airhead I’ve wasted an evening with since I don’t know when, constantly distracted by every pointless eruption of trivial dithering to reach her two or three personal communication devices, it was like trying to watch three infomercials simultaneously… there wasn’t anything TO connect with except a tiny mind that spent most of its time thinking about the type of lettuce in the salad… ah well, no making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear… ---
**Author:** ![andrw322](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@andrw322](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrw322)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/11 "2010-04-08T18:20:17Z")
> [@metalTree](#): > > If I were to take a wild guess, there are enough different products in the consumer line to cover the basic needs of all pheromone users already. > > General Purpose Attractant - Ammo > Male Dominance / Sexual - Instant Jerk > Male Protector - Instant Gentleman > Overtly Sexual - TUTH > Social - IH, IO > Feel Good - IS > Business, Pecking Order Booster - A314 > > This product line will cover the vast majority of user’s needs. For advanced users there are the putatives of course. the next line should be a mixture of two of these(attractant+male dominance)something like that..people would pay a lot for those. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/12 "2010-04-08T18:30:49Z")
I would _love_ to see something like MX297 become commercial. It doesn’t just work great for me, but for pretty much everyone else who tried it too (the same can’t be said for, say, MX292) - this mass appeal is what is needed from a commercial product that some of the MX’s lack. Consistency and repeatability of effects, both on an individual level and across-the-board. Then there is the unfortunate problem of how cost effective a product is to make. Take the two MX formulas released last week, MX203 and MX200. MX203 contains 70.75mcg’s per spray and MX200 close to 40mcgs per spray. MX292 has 50mcgs per spray. On the other hand Ammo has 7.5mcgs and the other commercial products all have about 15mcgs. The sheer [pheromone](https://a314.com/) content of the MX’s is what I think holds androtics back from selling them commercially in 30ml bottles. ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/13 "2010-04-08T19:03:24Z")
But for a product this popular, even if it costs mroe to produce for the pheromone content, people will pay more for it. And mass-producing it is cheaper than making a few MX batches. So it stands to reason they will make more money from it if they make 297 a commercial product ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/14 "2010-04-08T20:04:28Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > I would _love_ to see something like MX297 become commercial. It doesn’t just work great for me, but for pretty much everyone else who tried it too (the same can’t be said for, say, MX292) - this mass appeal is what is needed from a commercial product that some of the MX’s lack. Consistency and repeatability of effects, both on an individual level and across-the-board. Then there is the unfortunate problem of how cost effective a product is to make. > > Take the two MX formulas released last week, MX203 and MX200. MX203 contains 70.75mcg’s per spray and MX200 close to 40mcgs per spray. MX292 has 50mcgs per spray. On the other hand Ammo has 7.5mcgs and the other commercial products all have about 15mcgs. The sheer pheromone content of the MX’s is what I think holds androtics back from selling them commercially in 30ml bottles. I stand by what’s considered in the second paragraph. MX292 could easily cost 375-500 dollars for a 30mL bottle. Probably would be the same case for [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) and many of the other MX line. Mass production won’t necessarily reduce the cost to synthesize whatever amount of miligrams per molecule. Mones are like good alcohol. In order to make a good fine product the steps and precautions have to be taken accordingly and a pledge to not cut corners as a result. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/15 "2010-04-08T21:05:24Z")
I wonder if anyone would be willing to pay between $200 to $300 for a 30ml pheromone 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/16 "2010-04-08T21:24:46Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I wonder if anyone would be willing to pay between $200 to $300 for a 30ml pheromone 😉 Ever tried making your own oil based composites? 😮 Granted, they last longer and work better (for me anyway) and I get ~60 ml of finished oil composite but for an ICM 1a you are looking at about $200. For me, it is worth it because the oils just work that much better for me. I used to be worried about getting the MX’s in 30 ml bottles but I have so many of my own composites that I love (SAM for example) that I am more interested in keeping certain putatives in stock. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/17 "2010-04-08T22:11:17Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I wonder if anyone would be willing to pay between $200 to $300 for a 30ml pheromone 😉 Hell yeah. I’d pay that amount of money for IJ if thats the only way I could get it. I’d also pay that kind of money for A314 if I had to. ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/18 "2010-04-08T22:38:20Z")
Not done testing it yet, and am going to wait for some more before I consider my testing done (since I need to be in more enviroments and try more things with it), but so far, MX329 is turning out to be one of the only disposable things in the world that I would pay $200 for such a small, 30ml bottle on. Really need to be able to buy and test it some more! ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/19 "2010-04-13T12:45:17Z")
I don’t think the well running and working MXs even have to be upgraded to the ‘Instant’ line. Maybe it would be a good idea to just establish a new section with the ‘tried and true’ MX, keep their name, but change the price to an amount that would ADR let make a profit off it - as soon as they have gone through a certain ‘testing phase’, in which ADR has gathered a good deal of data from our reports. I’m pretty sure many of the people on here would pay more money for [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), MX353 or MX135 than it costs now… ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590/20 "2010-04-13T15:24:03Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > I don’t think the well running and working MXs even have to be upgraded to the ‘Instant’ line. Maybe it would be a good idea to just establish a new section with the ‘tried and true’ MX, keep their name, but change the price to an amount that would ADR let make a profit off it - as soon as they have gone through a certain ‘testing phase’, in which ADR has gathered a good deal of data from our reports. I’m pretty sure many of the people on here would pay more money for MX297, MX353 or MX135 than it costs now… As long as they had them in stock it wouldn’t be an issue really. If it really does cost way to much for them to produce it in the 30ml bottles, then it would be nice to at least have them readily available. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-is-androtics-releasing-a-new-product/37590.md?page=2)