# when we apply Pheromones, does it affect us too? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 18, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-we-apply-pheromones-does-it-affect-us-too/55306 "2012-04-18T17:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chengyew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@chengyew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chengyew)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-we-apply-pheromones-does-it-affect-us-too/55306/1 "2012-04-18T17:54:20Z")
when we apply [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), does it affect us too? something i am pondering… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-we-apply-pheromones-does-it-affect-us-too/55306/2 "2012-04-18T19:40:21Z")
> [@chengyew](#): > > when we apply Pheromones, does it affect us too? something i am pondering… 🙂 Some people do and some don’t. My theory… It depends on how close what [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) your wearing is to your natural signature. If its close you don’t notice the signal but if its not you tend to get self effects. However since your conscious of the signal your more aware of it. Eventually you get used to the mones and self effects and they diminish. So something like IO could open you up and make it easier for you to interact with others but its still your choice your not going to do anything you don’t want to do. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-we-apply-pheromones-does-it-affect-us-too/55306/3 "2012-04-18T22:16:53Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > It depends on how close what pheromone your wearing is to your natural signature. If its close you don’t notice the signal but if its not you tend to get self effects. However since your conscious of the signal your more aware of it. Eventually you get used to the mones and self effects and they diminish. > > So something like IO could open you up and make it easier for you to interact with others but its still your choice your not going to do anything you don’t want to do. > > Tisha This is mostly how I think of it. However, I get a little tripped up by products like A314. Many people who are already “alpha” use it to reinforce their image of themselves, this is true, but many more use it to boost or augment their less than “alpha” status. For the second group, I keep reading that users feel the effects even when they aren’t wearing A314 on that particular day. I believe this to be unconscious reinforcement of the mones’ effects by the individual; in short, when people say things like that, they’re commenting on their natural signature changing before their eyes. In such cases the pheromones are not originally in sync with their natural signature, but over time it seems they notice the self effects less and less - they become more like placebo effects the longer users wear them. Of course the mones will still affect others, but the self effects seem to diminish with prolonged use, especially when one’s perceptions of one’s self change to reflect the projected “alpha” status. Of course like Tisha, this is just a theory of mine 🙄 Hard science in [pheromone research](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is hard to come by. But that’s what we try to do here 😉 ---
**Author:** ![sweetybirdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sweetybirdy/32/1524_2.png) [@sweetybirdy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetybirdy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-we-apply-pheromones-does-it-affect-us-too/55306/4 "2012-04-19T21:37:06Z")
I don’t get humongous self effect on IS,IH, and IO. It depends of the state of your body on that day I guess. I wore IS last time when I didn’t had a good night of sleep. I got a very sleepy crash after 3-4 hours of application. For IH, it does not give me any urge to open up my secrets to the others because I am a very tight lipped person. IH gave me a very calm and laid back feeling though, I was almost too lazy to work that day, not good for work in my case! LOL 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-we-apply-pheromones-does-it-affect-us-too/55306/5 "2012-04-20T04:56:36Z")
> [@sweetybirdy](#): > > I don’t get humongous self effect on IS,IH, and IO. It depends of the state of your body on that day I guess. I wore IS last time when I didn’t had a good night of sleep. I got a very sleepy crash after 3-4 hours of application. For IH, it does not give me any urge to open up my secrets to the others because I am a very tight lipped person. IH gave me a very calm and laid back feeling though, I was almost too lazy to work that day, not good for work in my case! LOL 😃 I have trouble sleeping if I use IO close to bedtime. It tends to make my mind to busy and I cant settle down. I used to get the crash effect from Ishine but I am immune to it now. Tisha