# When will you guys realize that LOOKS are almost all that matters!? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619 "2009-08-17T05:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/222 "2009-08-23T20:51:41Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > East asians are all tall. Rumors that the average east asian male is 5’7 are completely bunk!! Look at Yao Ming!!! > > [http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/yao-ming-houston-rockets.jpg](http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/yao-ming-houston-rockets.jpg) > > Clearly east asians are no shorter than any other race…this picture is proof of that and any further against this argument will be met with more pictures of Yao Ming…because he’s clearly proof that east asians are not 5’7 on average. Dude, get lost! If you don’t even want to be helped you are wasting everyones time here… ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/223 "2009-08-23T20:55:09Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > I don’t get it! How are we supposed to show you the pure _possibility_ of you being wrong, when showing many examples against your point doesn’t count? Of course people are saying the same - that there ARE lots of unattractive guys who get women - because that’s the reality. Theres also “lots” of east asians over 6 feet tall. ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/224 "2009-08-23T20:56:45Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > Dude, get lost! HAH! none of you can properly counter my Yao Ming argument. Then again there is no proper counter to this argument. Might as well argue 1 plus 1 isnt 2. ---
**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/225 "2009-08-23T21:03:17Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > Another member of this forum is 40 years old and she says she is overweight but still gets tons of male attention…now she thinks its because of her “pheromones” 🙄 but we all know its because heterosexual males, by large, have no standards and will take pretty much any human female. First of all, no, we do not _all know_ anything that you have said so far. I’m starting to get insulted on Androtics’ behalf, considering you’re still bashing pheromones after knowing nothing about them (when you could try them for free.) > [@Advanced](#): > > On the other hand, like butterfly said, unattractive females would rather stay home than date unattractive males even if they have okay character. she didn’t say unattractive, she said repulsive, and she also said a JUST okay personality. Of course, someone like quasimoto with a JUST okay personality (basically a personality that has neither good nor bad qualities) isn’t going to get women, because why would they? They have nothing to offer. But if they had a good personality, they would be successful. Look at it this way, by your beliefs, a man must be attractive to be with an attractive women. That’s 100% incorrect, but let’s roll with it. I’m assuming that you _don’t_ believe that a man must be attractive to merely be friends with a woman. Since you don’t even have any female friends, one can deduce that the problem is your personality. Why don’t you work on it at least for that sake and you’ll be surprised at the success it brings you. > [@Advanced](#): > > To explain why what butterfly said is true…I explained that ALL WOMEN have tons of options so they can afford to be PICKY PICKY PICKY…I then used my cousin as an example of that. And again I ask, what makes you think you know ANYTHING about what a women is thinking, if you can’t even get one to be friends with you?? > [@Advanced](#): > > But like i said…unattractive males would be more than happy to date unattractive females. The moment an unattractive female shows ANY interest in an unattractive male…said unattractive male goes ape shit, falls in love with her FAST, and worships her as a goddess…that is until she leaves him for a more attractive male..but even then they continue to worship her in hopes of being rebound boy. This is a huge generalization. Maybe YOU would “go ape shit,” but all of my “unattractive” friends would NOT date an unattractive woman. In fact most of them are dating very attractive women. > [@Advanced](#): > > HERE is a pic of me. It is my rhinoplasty before and after picture. Before is on the left. After is on the right. > > [http://i25.tinypic.com/fck6fm.jpg](http://i25.tinypic.com/fck6fm.jpg) I think you looked better before the surgery. You look more feminine now. But right away I can tell you a few things, you definitely give off an intense/negative vibe just from your facial expressions. That is something you can easily change with some face time in the mirror. And also, GET A HAIRCUT. I can tell that would be HUGE in changing your appearance. Invest in a good stylist, instead of a plastic surgeon. Get a shorter haircut, something really stylish. And last, try going to the gym. I know you said it didn’t work for your friend, but with a little muscle and a lower body fat percentage, you will look slimmer and it will help with your confidence. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/226 "2009-08-23T21:03:38Z")
Okay, I admit it! We were all wrong! You are an ugly little guy that doesn’t have any chances with women and will die a virgin… Now that we’ve got that cleared out there’s no reason anymore for you to waste our time… Bye! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/227 "2009-08-23T21:07:58Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > Theres also “lots” of east asians over 6 feet tall. If you want us to roll with this stupid f%#$ing analogy, I will. If there are lots of ugly guys with hot girls, WHY DON’T YOU BE ONE OF THEM?? BE THE YAO MING. Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/228 "2009-08-23T21:11:24Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > HAH! none of you can properly counter my Yao Ming argument. Then again there is no proper counter to this argument. Might as well argue 1 plus 1 isnt 2. I can argue that 1 plus 1 isn’t always 2. There are situations where 1 + 1 = 10. Where? In the binary system. I work in computers, so that comeback was just too easy. But hey, I countered your argument there. So you won; go ahead and congratulate yourself. But look at the reputation next to people’s avatars. You have two red marks. The rest of us have at least one green mark. That definitely says something. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/229 "2009-08-23T21:18:50Z")
I agree with pheroclone, you look more like a chick now. Dude, your facial expressions look very mean and not welcoming as well. Maybe you’d also like butterfly’s opinion on your pic, heh? Anyway, you don’t look too bad; just need a makeover and some happy facial expressions. You look like an unwelcoming metal head. Now you look more like a girl though, thanks to your surgery. > [@pheroclone](#): > > I think you looked better before the surgery. You look more feminine now. But right away I can tell you a few things, you definitely give off an intense/negative vibe just from your facial expressions. That is something you can easily change with some face time in the mirror. And also, GET A HAIRCUT. I can tell that would be HUGE in changing your appearance. Invest in a good stylist, instead of a plastic surgeon. Get a shorter haircut, something really stylish. And last, try going to the gym. I know you said it didn’t work for your friend, but with a little muscle and a lower body fat percentage, you will look slimmer and it will help with your confidence. ---
**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/230 "2009-08-23T21:23:10Z")
Do you see the guy in my avatar? HE’S ugly. But you know what? You see that grin on his face? That’s there because he just got laid. If _he_ can get some, you can get some. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/231 "2009-08-23T21:31:56Z")
> [@pheroclone](#): > > Do you see the guy in my avatar? HE’S ugly. But you know what? You see that grin on his face? That’s there because he just got laid. If _he_ can get some, you can get some. But, he’s just an anomaly! That doesn’t proof anything! 😃 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/232 "2009-08-23T21:32:29Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Dude, your facial expressions look very mean and not welcoming as well. Thats how my face natrualy looks due to my supraorbital ridge and low brow. Its how my face looks in a relaxed state and the only solution is to fix my brow via cosmetic surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/233 "2009-08-23T21:33:45Z")
> [@pheroclone](#): > > Do you see the guy in my avatar? HE’S ugly. But you know what? You see that grin on his face? That’s there because he just got laid. If _he_ can get some, you can get some. I know you are trolling but I will bite. Do you know him? No. $500 bucks says he is ether a virgin or only has sex with prostitutes. ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/234 "2009-08-23T21:38:29Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > $500 bucks says he is ether a virgin or only has sex with prostitutes. 1000$ that this is a fake - amazing what ugliness photoshop can create! ---
**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/235 "2009-08-23T21:52:35Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > Thats how my face natrualy looks due to my supraorbital ridge and low brow. Its how my face looks in a relaxed state and the only solution is to fix my brow via cosmetic surgery. Um, yeah or smiling. Try it. > [@Advanced](#): > > I know you are trolling but I will bite. Do you know him? No. > > $500 bucks says he is ether a virgin or only has sex with prostitutes. Wow. This post illustrates why you can’t grasp the easy concept we keep explaining to you. Obviously it is a fake. If he were real, how the hell would you know if I know him? By the way you’re out 500 bucks. Guess you won’t be able to get your next surgery for a while. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/236 "2009-08-23T22:16:32Z")
No, your first pic looks like you weren’t relaxing and seemed tense. I’m sure you have a “happy” face; seriously you don’t look that bad or as you seem to make it. I am sure that a makeover is all you need and some practice with facial expressions and/or posture. > [@Advanced](#): > > Thats how my face natrualy looks due to my supraorbital ridge and low brow. Its how my face looks in a relaxed state and the only solution is to fix my brow via cosmetic surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/237 "2009-08-24T00:11:43Z")
Advanced, if those pictures you put up are really you, you are not ugly, before or after the surgery. Looks are not your problem. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/238 "2009-08-24T00:45:33Z")
Yao ming is a ugly fuKer with a square head… Must suck to be that big in a average size world, nothing is made for a person his size. This kid looks like he is 15 max… why is this thread now 24 pages long and over 4K views? This is a waste of resources ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/239 "2009-08-24T01:03:42Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > This kid looks like he is 15 max… hahaha, I actually find that quite flattering…but i actually look much older than I am in real life. People often mistake me for being 25-30. I am 22. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/240 "2009-08-24T03:29:54Z")
Quite frankly you have a feminine face, the change only highlighted that fact, if you trim your eyebrows thinner you will be even more feminine… Perhaps Metro Sexual will be your thing. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/241 "2009-08-24T03:46:33Z")
And in some cases that’s not a bad thing, some girls dig that. I think most of the problem with guys not appearing attractive is that they dress and groom themselves to a specific look that’s _not_ meant for them. For example me, I used to dress “gangster” when I was in my teens because hell, growing up in Orange County, CA and being Mexican that’s what you’re around most of the time, plus I was also into rap music but I was still always into rock. However, after growing up more I grew to finally let the _real_ me show, the “rocker” in me and let my hair grow long, lost weight, and changed my attire, and I must say that it made me appear more attractive than the way I was before. > [@djandarial](#): > > Quite frankly you have a feminine face, the change only highlighted that fact, if you trim your eyebrows thinner you will be even more feminine… > > Perhaps Metro Sexual will be your thing. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619.md?page=11) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619.md?page=13)