# When will you guys realize that LOOKS are almost all that matters!?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 17, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619 "2009-08-17T05:04:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/242 "2009-08-24T05:23:56Z")

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yah, sorry haven’t been following this thread lately but just wanted to throw some thoughts out:

first, guys just back off a lil bit. i think advanced is crying out for help but the reason he’s being a dick about it is because he’s testing you to see if you can take his shit. it’s something that people with trust issues have a tendency to do.

second..to advanced: i agree with the other people in the thread that have said that looks are not your problem. infact quite the opposite. let me ask you a very simple question…

would you sleep with a girl that looks like a man?

then why the hell would you expect a girl to sleep with a guy that looks like a chick and has plastic surgery done? and i’m not trying to be rude, i’m just trying to cut through that thick layer of bullshit of yours…

so lemme bottom line it for you…you can only get so good looking before you make a woman feel gay for having sexual feelings about you.

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**Author:** ![justaguy2116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@justaguy2116](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justaguy2116)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/243 "2009-08-24T07:20:01Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> Theres also “lots” of east asians over 6 feet tall.

Not sure about 6 foot, but if the statistical average is 5’7", then roughly 50% of east Asians are taller than 5’7".

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/244 "2009-08-24T14:58:03Z")

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…Those are called “Traps” if you will…

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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/245 "2009-08-24T15:25:51Z")

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OK, so suppose that Advanced’s cry for help is genuine. But how does he expect us to help him if he’s rejecting all our attempts to change his reasoning. Looking back at my college writing class, there are three ways to persuade someone: logical appeal, emotional appeal, and ethical/moral appeal. We tried all three, and none of them worked. You saw my earlier posts; I tried to help too (I think I used the logical appeal). But now I’m starting to think all our effort is going to waste. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt and not call him a troll, but still.

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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/246 "2009-08-24T16:39:41Z")

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He stays at it. By now, most trolls would have just insulted us real good and left.

He does enjoy a good debate though. That is one of his biggest problems with women. They think that is obnoxious rather than an engaging challenge.

I think Advanced is more concerned with winning on the ego level than he is with opening his heart. He, understandably, doesn’t want to get hurt. His combative ego defenses put women off and their resultant distancing makes him feel more insecure and defensive in an unattractive way. Vicious circle.

He needs to be able to test a girl’s sincerity without offending her and to be able to open his heart gradually as trust grows. My guess is that trust is too much of an all or nothing item with Advanced. Patience and gentleness and awareness of the subtle clues of interest are key.

That, of course, and pheromones.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/247 "2009-08-25T20:19:26Z")

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Annnd I thought this post was too long at 9 pages.😮

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**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/248 "2009-08-25T20:56:19Z")

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I dont know why you guys are complaining about this thread so much. I have only made ONE thread and this is the ONLY thread I have ever posted in on this website.

So if you dont like it, dont click on it, and dont read it.

The whole point of this post (and other similar ones I have made on other websites) was to call out all of the scams that target desperate lonely heterosexual males.

Like I said before…I am the voice of the single, desperate, lonely, heterosexual male virgin. 10-20 percent of adult heterosexual males are ether virgins or have only had sex with prostitutes. Most of us wont admit it because being a male virgin is WAAAAAAY more taboo than homosexuality. Hell…most people would rather be on record for saying “I hate all gays, blacks, and jews and they are the cause of all the world’s problems” than saying “I am a heterosexual virgin”.

It is cruel enough that we are being denied a basic human need…but to boot there’s all these con artists who want to exploit how desperate we are by selling us snake oil and other scams that promise success with women.

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**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/249 "2009-08-25T21:20:03Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> I dont know why you guys are complaining about this thread so much. I have only made ONE thread and this is the ONLY thread I have ever posted in on this website.
> 
> So if you dont like it, dont click on it, and dont read it.
> 
> The whole point of this post (and other similar ones I have made on other websites) was to call out all of the scams that target desperate lonely heterosexual males.
> 
> Like I said before…I am the voice of the single, desperate, lonely, heterosexual male virgin. 10-20 percent of adult heterosexual males are ether virgins or have only had sex with prostitutes. Most of us wont admit it because being a male virgin is WAAAAAAY more taboo than homosexuality. Hell…most people would rather be on record for saying “I hate all gays, blacks, and jews and they are the cause of all the world’s problems” than saying “I am a heterosexual virgin”.
> 
> It is cruel enough that we are being denied a basic human need…but to boot there’s all these con artists who want to exploit how desperate we are by selling us snake oil and other scams that promise success with women.

I’m always the first to try and help someone like you. Someone who is blinded and depressed by their ignorance, when I have the knowledge to help them. As you can see, I’ve posted many lengthy responses, taking up a lot of my time to try and help what seemed like a useless cause.

And again I have to disagree with you. I’m proud to tell whoever asks that I’m a virgin by choice. I was first propositioned for sex in 8th grade, and while someone as disillusioned as you might have jumped at that chance, I would like to wait for someone special for my first time.

I think that you are in a position where going to a prostitute might actually benefit you because it would make you feel a lot more congruent for a few days after (weeks maybe idn) and this would help you in your sub-communications. Right after being laid would be a perfect time to go out to try and pick up women.

But enough advice on my part. As I was saying, I’m the first to want to help someone like you, but in this case, unless you at least entertain the idea that you could be wrong, I’m going to suggest that people stop responding to you.

To be honest, I don’t really care what ends up happening in your life. I would hope that you heed our advice and live happily ever after. But in a week I’m going to forget about you and that will be that. However, if I were a moderator I would not tolerate your attacks on Androtics. This thread would be locked and your ip banned. I’m guessing it won’t be long before something like that happens (or maybe not, they really are _that_ nice here!)

But honestly if you just state that you are willing to give pheromones a chance, I’m sure you will be given a gc, as this thread pretty much serves as a long welcome post. You literally have nothing to lose. Just give it a shot. Worst case, you wasted 5 minutes choosing a free product because it doesn’t work. Best case, you find something that could potentially change your life, thereby proving all of us right. (And if we were right about the pheros, then we’re probably right about the rest, too!)

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**Author:** ![marksuave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@marksuave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marksuave)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/250 "2009-08-25T21:43:29Z")

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Man you are young and have a long way to go – It’s a total package, you have to do multiple things to improve yourself, not just put some pheros on . How about telling your friend to do the following :

1. Shave the balding head, that is the new “hot” look everywhere, and better yet, grow some sideburns with the bald look to look retro, try some differend looks, grow a mustache to soften that “long face” you are talking about, use a fake one to “try it out”

2. Use deodorant, soap, and mouthwash religiously, you don’t know how many times a basic body odor thing can kill any girl’s interest

3. Buy a new wardrobe, maybe those grunge t-shirts he keeps wearing are wearing a bit thin, how about three or four short sleeve shirts in hot colors and stripes that button down that show off his buff chest and arms while summer is still here

4. Try smiling a lot, I mean a lot, right into their eyes, even if you think you look goofy, guys who don’t get any usually look glum and depressed and have their eyes on the ground, that look will kill any girl’s interest – just try it, how could it hurt

5. Use a self-tanning lotion to get a nice tanned, toned look, girls love that

6. Then, FINALLY, add the pheros to all of the above, then call me Mr. Suave (you’ve seen the movie Hitch I presume )

Mark

The Suave ONe

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**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/251 "2009-08-26T00:53:10Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> Like I said before…I am the voice of the single, desperate, lonely, heterosexual male virgin. 10-20 percent of adult heterosexual males are ether virgins or have only had sex with prostitutes.

really? where are you getting your stats from? and what are the conditions of the stats. if this survery was done with all 18 year olds then yah, sure…what’s the big deal. shit i was a virgin till 19 myself. but 20 percent of all male adults? that seems kinda high

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**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/252 "2009-08-26T01:07:10Z")

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> [@marksuave](#):
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> Man you are young and have a long way to go – It’s a total package, you have to do multiple things to improve yourself, not just put some pheros on . How about telling your friend to do the following :
> 
> 1. Shave the balding head, that is the new “hot” look everywhere, and better yet, grow some sideburns with the bald look to look retro, try some differend looks, grow a mustache to soften that “long face” you are talking about, use a fake one to “try it out”
> 
> 2. Use deodorant, soap, and mouthwash religiously, you don’t know how many times a basic body odor thing can kill any girl’s interest
> 
> 3. Buy a new wardrobe, maybe those grunge t-shirts he keeps wearing are wearing a bit thin, how about three or four short sleeve shirts in hot colors and stripes that button down that show off his buff chest and arms while summer is still here
> 
> 4. Try smiling a lot, I mean a lot, right into their eyes, even if you think you look goofy, guys who don’t get any usually look glum and depressed and have their eyes on the ground, that look will kill any girl’s interest – just try it, how could it hurt
> 
> 5. Use a self-tanning lotion to get a nice tanned, toned look, girls love that
> 
> 6. Then, FINALLY, add the pheros to all of the above, then call me Mr. Suave (you’ve seen the movie Hitch I presume )
> 
> Mark
> 
> The Suave ONe

1. He used to shave his head for a while but he hated it…and to be honest its not like he looked much better. The bald look is NOT in AT ALL. Baldness is hereditary and women are going to think that subconsciously.

2. He already practices proper hygiene.

3. His wardrobe is fine…he invests heavily in expensive clothes.

4. he smiles plenty

5. His skin is already plenty dark natrually, no tan needed.

6. LOL snake oil

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**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/253 "2009-08-26T01:25:48Z")

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> [@meow333x](#):
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> really? where are you getting your stats from? and what are the conditions of the stats. if this survery was done with all 18 year olds then yah, sure…what’s the big deal. shit i was a virgin till 19 myself. but 20 percent of all male adults? that seems kinda high

It seems high to you because I already explained most male virgins are not OPEN about it. statistically speaking…if you have a decent amount of friends…several of them are probably virgins and lying about it.

Many people will go GREAT LENGTHS to make it look like they have a girlfriend/wife. I know several people who go as far as to carry a picture of their sister/cousin/female friend in their wallet and claim it as their girlfriend.

Also…what do you think high class escorts are for? It sure as hell isnt sex. High class escorts are for wealthy guys to take to company dinners or other social events and pose as their girlfriend/wife. Why do you think they CALL them ESCORTS?..no its not just an elaborate cover up for prostitution. Sure…there is no doubt some of them have sex with the high class escort AFTER (hey, you are a lonely desperate heterosexual male…and you already paid for her…might as well…if she allows you to that is) but sex is NOT the main attraction when it comes to high class escorts. They are for you to be seen in public with…period, end of story.

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**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/254 "2009-08-26T01:28:12Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> 1. He used to shave his head for a while but he hated it…and to be honest its not like he looked much better. The bald look is NOT in AT ALL. Baldness is hereditary and women are going to think that subconsciously.
> 
> 2. He already practices proper hygiene.
> 
> 3. His wardrobe is fine…he invests heavily in expensive clothes.
> 
> 4. he smiles plenty
> 
> 5. His skin is already plenty dark natrually, no tan needed.
> 
> 6. LOL snake oil

1. HAHAHA like you know what is “in..” Balding is (considered) a negative hereditary trait, being bald is choice.
2. Your mom practices proper hygiene.
3. Expensive clothes do NOT mean he (you) is/are stylish. One would look more stylish in a cheap, nicely fitted and coordinated outfit than one that amounts to two thousand dollars and fits like crap.
4. He (you) need/s to smile more. You can never smile plenty.
5. You are natrually annoying.
6. LOL virgin

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/255 "2009-08-26T01:50:16Z")

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YOU are the one denying yourself human contact. It is not a “right”. It is YOUR responsibilty to make your life what you want it to be.. How can women (or anyone) like if you don’t like yourself.

You don’t need major reconstructive surgery. You need to wipe that pouty, petulant look off your face and smile. Try some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/).

Google “body dysmorphic disorder”.

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**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/256 "2009-08-26T01:57:32Z")

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> [@pheroclone](#):
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> 1. HAHAHA like you know what is “in..” Balding is (considered) a negative hereditary trait, being bald is choice.
> 2. Your mom practices proper hygiene.
> 3. Expensive clothes do NOT mean he (you) is/are stylish. One would look more stylish in a cheap, nicely fitted and coordinated outfit than one that amounts to two thousand dollars and fits like crap.
> 4. He (you) need/s to smile more. You can never smile plenty.
> 5. You are natrually annoying.
> 6. LOL virgin

1. yes…baldness is seen as a negative hereditary trait…many studies back this up. Why do you think the hair transplant industry is a multi-billion dollar one?

2. Wow…thats like a middle school level ad hominem attack.

3. Im telling you its not his clothes…you will have to trust me on this.

4. Smiling too much is seen as creepy

5. ad hominem attack

6. LOL ad hominem attack

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/257 "2009-08-26T02:13:33Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> 1. yes…baldness is seen as a negative hereditary trait…many studies back this up. Why do you think the hair transplant industry is a multi-billion dollar one?
> 
> 2. Wow…thats like a middle school level ad hominem attack.
> 
> 3. Im telling you its not his clothes…you will have to trust me on this.
> 
> 4. Smiling too much is seen as creepy
> 
> 5. ad hominem attack
> 
> 6. LOL ad hominem attack

I’ve read through most of this thread, and I’ve got to say you’re really quite annoying. Anyone who disagrees with you is a brainwashed PUA dumbass who is too stupid and lonely to realize that they are buying “snake oil crap”.

How about this, you can go to your forum full of unhappy young little kids, and you can bask in the glory of being one of the more respected members there, and I (as well as everyone else here) will stay here, with my expensive snake oil and enjoy the brainwashed thought that they help make me more interesting and attractive. You never have to come back here again, and I promise never to go over to your forum.

P.S. I see how much you like typing the “ad hominem.” Probably because you saw someone type it a few days ago then you wiki’d it and found out what it means. Now you feel intelligent because you can use a latin phrase in your posts. But honestly, it lost effectiveness after the 10th or so time you typed it.

Dumbass. \<---- Self proclaimed Ad Hominem attack.

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**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/258 "2009-08-26T02:17:59Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> 1. yes…baldness is seen as a negative hereditary trait…many studies back this up. Why do you think the hair transplant industry is a multi-billion dollar one?
> 
> 2. Wow…thats like a middle school level ad hominem attack.
> 
> 3. Im telling you its not his clothes…you will have to trust me on this.
> 
> 4. Smiling too much is seen as creepy
> 
> 5. ad hominem attack
> 
> 6. LOL ad hominem attack

1. I don’t have to tell you why I _think_ it’s a multi-billion dollar industry. I _know_. It’s because social conditioning (especially advertising) has convinced society that looks are important in finding success, in order to fuel the economy and make the people who _really_ know what’s going on an a$$load of money. Excuse my language.
2. Wow… not even a middle school level comeback.
3. Hmm… trust you.. Let me just think about this one. Trust the guy who believes facial reconstructive motherf\*$&ing surgery is the answer to being successful with women? Trust the guy who will disregard all the reviews and bash arguably the most customer-service oriented company on the planet before trying it? (FOR FREE WITH A 2X MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!) Trust the guy who believed my avatar was a real person??? Nah… I’m good.
4. Walking out of a plastic surgeons office one step closer to being a transvestite, with hair like Samara from The Ring, looking like a satanic death metal groupie is seen as creepy.
5. That was obviously an attack on your Natrually good spelling.
6. LOL that comeback just gets better and better after hearing it for the third time. Come up with something new.

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**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/259 "2009-08-26T02:30:28Z")

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> [@pheroclone](#):
>
> 1. I don’t have to tell you why I _think_ it’s a multi-billion dollar industry. I _know_. It’s because social conditioning (especially advertising) has convinced society that looks are important in finding success, in order to fuel the economy and make the people who _really_ know what’s going on an a$$load of money. Excuse my language.
> 2. Wow… not even a middle school level comeback.
> 3. Hmm… trust you.. Let me just think about this one. Trust the guy who believes facial reconstructive motherf\*$&ing surgery is the answer to being successful with women? Trust the guy who will disregard all the reviews and bash arguably the most customer-service oriented company on the planet before trying it? (FOR FREE WITH A 2X MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!!) Trust the guy who believed my avatar was a real person??? Nah… I’m good.
> 4. Walking out of a plastic surgeons office one step closer to being a transvestite, with hair like Samara from The Ring, looking like a satanic death metal groupie is seen as creepy.
> 5. That was obviously an attack on your Natrually good spelling.
> 6. LOL that comeback just gets better and better after hearing it for the third time. Come up with something new.

Well if you keep using ad hominem attacks I am going to call you out on them. Really I dont have many options when ad hominem attacks are made I can ether:

1. Call out your ad hominem attack.
2. Respond with another ad hominem attack.
3. Ignore you.

Right now I have been doing #1. #2 (responding with another ad hominem attack) would be immature and only lead to a flame war. #3 sounds pretty tempting right about now though…

Another thing…you only have 30 posts on this website and most of them are replies to me…thats pretty suspect to say the least.

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**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/260 "2009-08-26T02:44:56Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
>
> Well if you keep using ad hominem attacks I am going to call you out on them. Really I dont have many options when ad hominem attacks are made I can ether:
> 
> 1. Call out your ad hominem attack.
> 2. Respond with another ad hominem attack.
> 3. Ignore you.
> 
> Right now I have been doing #1. #2 (responding with another ad hominem attack) would be immature and only lead to a flame war. #3 sounds pretty tempting right about now though…
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> Another thing…you only have 30 posts on this website and most of them are replies to me…thats pretty suspect to say the least.

15 of them were replies to this thread. That’s what we call half in the math world. Most would have been 16 or more. Now it’s less than half, as this is lucky #31. All that says about me is that I’m unwilling to give up trying to help someone when I see they need it. By the way feel free to resort back to #3 when you can’t come up with a good counter-argument. You’ve already done it to like 5 of my other amazing arguments. I don’t blame you though, there’s no comeback you can come up with. I ask you again, why not give this company a shot? (for free)

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/261 "2009-08-26T03:43:02Z")

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> Also…what do you think high class escorts are for? It sure as hell isnt sex. High class escorts are for wealthy guys to take to company dinners or other social events and pose as their girlfriend/wife. Why do you think they CALL them ESCORTS?..no its not just an elaborate cover up for prostitution. Sure…there is no doubt some of them have sex with the high class escort AFTER (hey, you are a lonely desperate heterosexual male…and you already paid for her…might as well…if she allows you to that is) but sex is NOT the main attraction when it comes to high class escorts. They are for you to be seen in public with…period, end of story.

For most escorts, more than 95% of their business is with married men whose marriage is such that, Advanced, they would envy your situation. And it is all about sex. The social gigs are relatively rare, and sex is implied before and/or after. They are called _escorts_ because prostitution is illegal. I know of what I speak. You are making some faulty assumptions and, frankly, overly romanticising the whole male-female thing.

It often is the case that “Clothes make the man.” Get some women friends to help you pick out sexy clothes. You’ll hate what they choose but buy them anyway. The first time I did this, women I didn’t know literally stopped in their tracks, stared and went “wow” as I walked by. And I am much uglier than you are, Advanced.

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> It is cruel enough that we are being denied a basic human need…

You need to get over this. Among other things, there is an ugly sense of entitlement.

There are women out there who think it would be cool to do a virgin.

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