# When will you guys realize that LOOKS are almost all that matters!? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619 "2009-08-17T05:04:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/21 "2009-08-17T06:23:54Z")
> [@silentscope](#): > > Is this post going to go on and on? All his posts are on this topic. This thread just started. Why do you care…if you dont like my thread dont read it. If I were to post in other thread or making more threads you would complain about that too. Since you hate my posts so much consider it a blessing that I am containing this all in one thread. silent scope was a great game BTW…I like the part at the end where you have only one bullet left and you need to get a head shot. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/22 "2009-08-17T06:26:47Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > A close friend of mine has been brainwashed by the PUA cult. He started this crap a year ago and he only becomes more and more obsessed with it. He is 25 years old and he has never even kissed a girl. I already know why…it is because he is ugly. He has a HUGE nose (dorsal hump, over-projected tip, too long vertically) and he is severely balding (he’s only 25 but he has a badly receded hairline and a bald spot at the vortex). On top of that he has a very long mid-face…like sarah jessica parker. > > At first he thought that bulking up would help him…he worked out obsessively for a year and a half and now he’s pretty damn buff…but still a virgin. > > Then he some PUA idiots brought him into the cult and got him to buy PUA books and other snake oil you guys push. He’s spend hundreds on this crap and spent countless hours reading all of this PUA crap…but he still cant get girls. His PUA buddies are all telling him he’s making great progress but he’s still never kissed a girl. Its funny how PUAs measure a man’s “progress” …its not by how successful with women he is..but how brainwashed he is. Thats why PUA is no different from a religious cult. > > How many more rejections is it gonna take for him to realize that HIS FACE is the reason he cant get girls. I try to tell him its his looks and he goes by this same “oh well theres this one ugly guy with a girlfriend” logic that all you PUAs go by. > > By the way that logic is flawed in so many ways. You cant just name one or two ugly dudes with girlfriends and say that looks dont matter to women. Thats like saying that east asians are no shorter than caucasians because Yao Ming is 7 foot 6. ITS CALLED AN ANOMALY! > > Roughly half of my friends are virgins. Out of all of my friends that are virgins ALL of them 100 PERCENT are ether overweight, ugly, balding or some combination of the three. My friends that are somewhat successful with women are average looking or better. And the few friends I have that are relatively successful with women are all fairly good looking. This is no coincidence. > > I wonder how long it is going to take my friend to realize that HIS LOOKS are the reason he is not getting girls. Its not his approach or “confidence” or his “game”…ITS HIS LOOKS! > > When women talk about the guys they like they don’t say “Oh John has so much confidence” or “Oh John makes the best approaches” ..NO THEY DON’T SAY THAT…they say “Oh John is so cute/hot” > > Why do you guys always go ape shit every time a guy even SUGGESTS that LOOKS play a major role in attraction? After having never experiencing the love of a good woman i am sure your friend will be genuinly appreciative when he connects up with a good loving girl and he probably will not be taking her for granted. Just hope for his sake that he will be mentally stable enough to work through a good relationship with her if she has some visual handicap or a disability for instance. ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/23 "2009-08-17T06:27:30Z")
this kind of relates to me. so im 5 foot 3. a man that is 5 foot 3 that will not get any taller. i can only get shorter. automatically this throws out a LOT of women who like tall men. not me. how do i deal with this? i dont i dont go for those girls. i go for the ones that i know i can be comfortable with. i worked and went to high school with a 6 foot 1 girl who was a monster. she had lots of friends and i knew it would never work out. so i conquer all of these things with a confident attitude and a strong mindset. it also doesnt help to have a good clothes line that you wear and a good pair of shoes and a great hair cut. those are the things i do to combat the feeling of being “short and ugly” ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/24 "2009-08-17T06:29:03Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > This thread just started. > > Why do you care…if you dont like my thread dont read it. If I were to post in other thread or making more threads you would complain about that too. Since you hate my posts so much consider it a blessing that I am containing this all in one thread. > > silent scope was a great game BTW…I like the part at the end where you have only one bullet left and you need to get a head shot. Not complianing. Are you going to write a introduction? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/25 "2009-08-17T06:40:24Z")
> [@tfer15](#): > > this kind of relates to me. > > so im 5 foot 3. a man that is 5 foot 3 that will not get any taller. i can only get shorter. > > automatically this throws out a LOT of women who like tall men. not me. how do i deal with this? i dont > > i dont go for those girls. i go for the ones that i know i can be comfortable with. i worked and went to high school with a 6 foot 1 girl who was a monster. she had lots of friends and i knew it would never work out. > > so i conquer all of these things with a confident attitude and a strong mindset. it also doesnt help to have a good clothes line that you wear and a good pair of shoes and a great hair cut. > > those are the things i do to combat the feeling of being “short and ugly” You should move to Hawaii. At 5’3" you’d tower over half the Filipino girls (& many guys) in Waipahu. I’m only 5’8" but feel like a friggen telephone pole in a crowd here. I recall growing up on the mainland and getting lost in crowds because I could only see the guy in front of me… ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/26 "2009-08-17T06:40:27Z")
> [@silentscope](#): > > Not complianing. > Are you going to write a introduction? Maybe…I really was not planning on staying that long since I think PUA is a scam. ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/27 "2009-08-17T06:42:46Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > You should move to Hawaii. At 5’3" you’d tower over half the Filipino girls (& many guys) in Waipahu. I’m only 5’8" but feel like a friggen telephone pole in a crowd here. I recall growing up on the mainland and getting lost in crowds because I could only see the guy in front of me… I guess I would be Godzilla in Hawaii. (Im 6’2). ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/28 "2009-08-17T06:53:51Z")
totally useless thread. everybody should just give up and feel sorry for themselves cause you said so, unless they are good looking. ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/29 "2009-08-17T06:56:49Z")
> [@castlerock](#): > > totally useless thread. . That’s what I thought. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/30 "2009-08-17T07:02:26Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > Maybe…I really was not planning on staying that long since I think PUA is a scam. Maps are designed for intelligent people to arrive at their chosen destination. You and i and all males use PUA principles to some degree as we have been conditioned by society to do so, it is written into our cultural upbringing and as is natural as brushing our teeth. The fact is by following a good thought out and proven formula a person can gain knowledge and obtain results, this is just the way it is. The forum members here are learning and practicing science and good interpersonal relationship skills and we are all giving knowledge and also learning in a great enviroment. You could learn much by hanging around so why dont you ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/31 "2009-08-17T07:05:01Z")
> [@castlerock](#): > > totally useless thread. everybody should just give up and feel sorry for themselves cause you said so, unless they are good looking. Go worship mystery and make 438900 threads about “confidence” or something. Dont like my thread? Nobody is holding a gun to your head making you read it. I know the truth is hard to swallow…especially if you have a low IQ like you do and are brainwashed to boot. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/32 "2009-08-17T07:06:39Z")
> [@silentscope](#): > > That’s what I thought. There is no failure except in no longer trying. Elbert Hubbard ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/33 "2009-08-17T07:08:30Z")
seriously I am reading thread after thread on here “oh I talked to this girl but I have not been able to get anywhere with her…what do i do” Um…she does not find you attractive and wants nothing to do with you! That is likely the reality in at LEAST 90 percent of these cases. No magic words or PUA snake oil is going to magically make her want to go to bed with you. ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/34 "2009-08-17T07:10:10Z")
I am not saying GIVE UP…I am saying if you are not successful with women you need COSMETIC SURGERY. If my friend got a rhinoplasty and a hair transplant he might be able to get an ugly fat chick or something…but right now not even the women at the bottom of the totem pole want ANYTHING to do with him. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/35 "2009-08-17T07:10:48Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > Go worship mystery and make 438900 threads about “confidence” or something. > > Dont like my thread? Nobody is holding a gun to your head making you read it. > > I know the truth is hard to swallow…especially if you have a low IQ like you do and are brainwashed to boot. we understand, you’re still a virgin and it hurts. ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/36 "2009-08-17T07:20:05Z")
> [@castlerock](#): > > we understand, you’re still a virgin and it hurts. That’s all you got?..just a “LOL UR A VIRGIN!!!” ad hominem attack? Gee… like I never heard THAT one before. Let me guess..you think I am a virgin because I dont have enough “confidence” and dont have whatever PUA snake oil they are trying to sell you people these days…right? I’m sure Mystery and all the other PUA con artists you guys worship are laughing at all of you for buying into your crap and making them rich and famous. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/37 "2009-08-17T07:25:18Z")
> [@Advanced](#): > > That’s all you got?..just a “LOL UR A VIRGIN!!!” ad hominem attack? Gee… like I never heard THAT one before. > > Let me guess..you think I am a virgin because I dont have enough “confidence” and dont have whatever PUA snake oil they are trying to sell you people these days…right? > > I bet Mystery and all the other PUA con artists you guys worship are laughing at all of you for buying into your crap and making them rich and famous. for you, that’s all i need. you’re a virgin because you’re a ten time loser. we’ll gladly keep our snake oil and you can go back to your make pretend girlfriend. the only thing you are advanced at is trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/38 "2009-08-17T07:32:39Z")
> [@castlerock](#): > > for you, that’s all i need. you’re a virgin because you’re a ten time loser. we’ll gladly keep our snake oil and you can go back to your make pretend girlfriend. > > the only thing you are advanced at is trolling. Every time you PUAs are confronted with the truth you guys get all pissed and start making ad hominem attacks. Its like a christian fundie being presented proof of evolution or carbon dating. ---
**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/39 "2009-08-17T07:47:22Z")
A few things. This person is fairly confused or intentionally seeming so, as this forum is a not a PUA forum, but a pheromone forum. Also this person has an agenda and simply isn’t honest about it, but if you’ve been around, you’ve seen this person post under the other accounts they use. Yesterday this person was pretending to be female claiming to be new to [pheromones](https://a314.com/) and talking about her friend who used them. Criticism is fine, but it’s these hamhanded attempts at a straw man attack are amaturish and laughable. I wonder what the IP logs will show? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/40 "2009-08-17T07:55:24Z")
Dude, that’s so fucked up. You sure you’re his friend? Does he know you’re talking shit about him on here? Er, I mean talking “tough love” about him? > [@Advanced](#): > > I am not saying GIVE UP…I am saying if you are not successful with women you need COSMETIC SURGERY. > > If my friend got a rhinoplasty and a hair transplant _he might be able to get an ugly fat chick_ or something…but right now not even the women at the bottom of the totem pole want ANYTHING to do with him. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619.md?page=3)