# When will you guys realize that LOOKS are almost all that matters!?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 17, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619 "2009-08-17T05:04:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Advanced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Advanced](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Advanced)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/82 "2009-08-17T17:53:30Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Just so everyone knows I am including the link back to where Advanced comes from (AKA Yao Ming)  
> [love-shy.com • View topic - PICK UP ARTISTS VS. ADVANCED!](http://www.love-shy.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3745)
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> It’s a group of seriously disturbed young virgins who do not know how to communicate with the ladies so therefore they need to spend there time attempting to put down men and woman whose view point goes way above their intelligence level, which from their posting on that other forum is well bellow HS algebra levels.

We post “below HS algebra levels”? um…dont you mean HS ENGLISH levels? Secondly your grammar is horrible…so you have no room to talk about english skills.

You have the nerve to talk shit about the forum I come from when your forum is full of fully grown men who pay good money for tiny little bottles of snake oil thinking that it makes women want to have sex with them?

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/83 "2009-08-17T18:48:04Z")

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Ha, ha WTF? Someone on here [love-shy.com • View topic - PICK UP ARTISTS VS. ADVANCED!](http://www.love-shy.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3745) posted my pic asking Advanced if he thought I was considered ugly? Er, I don’t know what to think right now… I know I’m not freaking model material (and I’m _fine_ with that, as I still managed to catch my self a girl and get married so whatever) but why would a guy ask another guy what he thinks of another guy? A little odd to me, no? Maybe a little homo perhaps? 😊

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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/84 "2009-08-17T18:51:44Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Just so everyone knows I am including the link back to where Advanced comes from (AKA Yao Ming)  
> [love-shy.com • View topic - PICK UP ARTISTS VS. ADVANCED!](http://www.love-shy.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3745)
> 
> It’s a group of seriously disturbed young virgins who do not know how to communicate with the ladies so therefore they need to spend there time attempting to put down men and woman whose view point goes way above their intelligence level, which from their posting on that other forum is well bellow HS algebra levels.

YAY, thanks Steve - more Advanced stuff!! That dude is better than any comedian I’ve come across! And now there’s even a whole forum full of these freaks! 😃

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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/85 "2009-08-17T19:03:11Z")

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You know, if you read a little on this forum you’ve linked, you’ll see that dudes like our beloved advanced really have some very deep psychological issues. Please Advanced, go get a psychologist! Threads like this show you seriously need professional help:

> [@](#):
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> I have been thinking about suicide more and more as of late.
> 
> I know it is going to take a LOONG time for me to afford all of the procedures I need. By the time I get it done I will look old as shit so its pointless. I am really thinking I should off myself.

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**Author:** ![developingperfectionist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@developingperfectionist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/developingperfectionist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/86 "2009-08-17T19:30:10Z")

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Steve, I’m impressed you haven’t banned him. I praise your tolerance. I read a few threads of the forum. Whatever BS I go through from my day to day, I can’t even begin to understand how difficult their lives must be. If they have to go to other forums to insult others to feel good, small price to pay for their social difficulities. It’s always easy being a keyboard jockey.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/87 "2009-08-17T20:21:13Z")

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Advanced - you still haven’t explained away your contradiction

or is it easier to just pretend you can’t keep your own argument straight?

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**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/88 "2009-08-17T20:41:49Z")

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Wow, there’s some disturbing stuff on that forum. Did anyone check out other threads on it? There’s one about sucidal thoughts where one member posts he alerady tried and will try again and another member tells him to do it another way because it’s less messy.

I thought this guy was just a troll, but he definitely needs professional help.

ps. can someone de-nominate him from topic of the week?

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/89 "2009-08-17T20:48:27Z")

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My God, 9 pages??😮

I want the last 10 minutes of my life back!!

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/90 "2009-08-17T20:48:48Z")

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Ha, ha I seriously don’t even know who nominated this or why.

> [@dapg01](#):
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> Wow, there’s some disturbing stuff on that forum. Did anyone check out other threads on it? There’s one about sucidal thoughts where one member posts he alerady tried and will try again and another member tells him to do it another way because it’s less messy.
> 
> I thought this guy was just a troll, but he definitely needs professional help.
> 
> ps. can someone de-nominate him from topic of the week?

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/91 "2009-08-17T21:04:17Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> Ha, ha I seriously don’t even know who nominated this or why.

My guess is the sad li’ll fella did it himself 🙄

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**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/92 "2009-08-17T21:41:00Z")

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That’s what trolls do. This troll is young or just really new, as they did a better job than the last time and of course, he/they nominated themselves. Being inexperienced and not understanding how things work makes trolling new forums a bit harder.

If Deng Xiaoping wants to troll, that’s fine with me. It’s part of life and at least they aren’t spamming the forum. The really good ones are _much_ better at it that than what we have seen here and actually can be funny when they are cleaver and well done. Unless you’re the target and can’t laugh at yourself. 🙂

There were some great trolls that used the Fresh Prince, but those guys had talent with planning and writing. This guy is just getting a reaction, not drawing people into a good troll. Kind of like someone thinking because they yell louder, they are winning an argument.

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**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/93 "2009-08-17T22:24:34Z")

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Superficial Humanity

To a degree we all have at least an iota of superficiality its programmed into us by people around us.  
We can choose to overcome that or not.

Assumptions..

There’s this thing about being too hot.(or thinking you are)  
Nasty ego from some people who are super attractive.

People who think they’re too ugly.  
Nasty level of self loathing or insecurity.

The trick either way is to _ **be happy with yourself** _ but not consumed by yourself good or bad.

Yes, people can be cruel and people can be superficial but not everyone is that way. A certain part of that is genetic, people are attracted to facial symmetry and complimentary genetics.This is not to say someone has to be stereo-typically attractive. Stereotypes suck and we can overcome both stereo-types and our genetics in terms of thinking.

Complimentary genetics means if you have small shoulders as a male you might like broad shouldered women low testosterone men may like women with higher than normal testosterone.Speaking strictly in terms of breeding we unconsciously and sometimes consciously go for complimentary and diverse genetics.

Some people like big noses and some people like button noses.  
There is a certain leg up for attractive people.Socially and in terms of getting jobs ectra.

**Personality means a lot.Looks fade over time. Sure in today’s society we can plastic ourselves up until we fall into our graves.Yet in the end its the mind and heart of a person you’re left with.**

Grooming is essential but there are certain medical conditions no amount of grooming can deal with.A guy who hasn’t got a clue as to how to deal with this stuff.Try asking a woman.Strictly in terms of courting most women have a pretty strong opinion of how things should be or at least what they personally want.

Most people should have at least one friend of the opposite sex.  
Chances are if you can’t coexist with a member of the opposite sex even on a basic friendly level something is wrong.It means you’re doing something wrong and should look at your own approach methods to see what isn’t working.

_ **What does help.** _

Respect.Treating someone right.

Both of these can lead to other things not only is it worth it from the basic angle of making someones day but you get positives in return.  
People eventually notice if you treat others with respect.

The post that started this thread was lacking in respect and drew a lot of responses that weren’t entirely respectful.You get what you put out.

If you have that low opinion of yourself and the people around you something needs to change and its probably your way of thinking.  
We tend to reflect ourselves on others.  
Tearing down those around you isn’t helpful to you or them.

Focus on more positive things for example if your friend is good to talk to focus on that.

Btw. Most girls like being able to talk to a guy try listening.

\*\*\*I think when you meet someone that’s good for you and makes you happy and vice versa someone you enjoy being around _not just for sex_.Then you have something.

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Hyper focusing on trivialities that will pass and on sex is bad idea in general.

Sex comes and goes can be good or bad and even boring.

When we focus on trivial things too much we loose something.

When we stop looking at people as people we loose something.

Focus on the things you like in people and in life .

Focus on the things you like about yourself and those around you.

\*\*\*Strive for a healthier mindset and a healthier you.

_ **Just a thought** _..

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/94 "2009-08-17T22:34:33Z")

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> [@Advanced](#):
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> How do you know? Do you spray it on and females flock to you like they do in those Axe body spray commercials?
> 
> Do you know what a placebo effect is?

Actually, I’ve had nights like that from pheromones.

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/95 "2009-08-17T22:38:21Z")

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> [@tfer15](#):
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> this kind of relates to me.
> 
> so im 5 foot 3. a man that is 5 foot 3 that will not get any taller. i can only get shorter.
> 
> automatically this throws out a LOT of women who like tall men. not me. how do i deal with this? i dont
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> i dont go for those girls. i go for the ones that i know i can be comfortable with. i worked and went to high school with a 6 foot 1 girl who was a monster. she had lots of friends and i knew it would never work out.
> 
> so i conquer all of these things with a confident attitude and a strong mindset. it also doesnt help to have a good clothes line that you wear and a good pair of shoes and a great hair cut.
> 
> those are the things i do to combat the feeling of being “short and ugly”

I downloaded an ebook called How to Naturally Increase Your Height. I don’t know of it works but you might want to take a look at it.

Here is a get taller website too.  
[GET TALLER](http://gettaller.cjb.net/)

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**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/96 "2009-08-17T22:43:31Z")

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check this out guys hahahah  
[When will you guys realize that LOOKS are almost all that matters!? - The Attraction Forums - Free Pickup and Dating Advice](http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/102485-when-will-you-guys-realize-looks-almost-all-matters.html)

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**Author:** ![glertsgal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@glertsgal](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/glertsgal)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/97 "2009-08-17T22:53:16Z")

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I agree with you Electra. Beauty is in the eye of the holder. I personally prefer a funny guy to a model-like guy. The muscles don’t do it for me. Personality is more key. Also, I prefer bald guys, I think they are more comfortable in their skins and that is the key.  
I am an overweight, 40+ gal and still attract guys. Why? Because I have a natural overabundance of pheromones (or charm as me mum used to say). People who I am around forget after a short while that I am overweight. I always wondered what I had that made me different from other people roughly the same size. Everyone is attracted to something different. Yes, there are nice people, and not so nice people. Yen and Yang exists every where else in nature, so why not in people? As long as you are comfortable with yourself, people are comfortable with you. If you carry the attitude that you like yourself, people are more likely to like you as well. For me, I learned early that the saying “wherever you are, there you will be” is too true and the key to being happy is to be happy with yourself first. We may judge a book by its cover too often, I have found that people who initially look to be intelligent werent and people who looked different from the norm could be funny and intelligent. The looks may draw us, but it is the personality that keeps us.

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/98 "2009-08-17T22:56:32Z")

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> [@Eldros](#):
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> gtfo, go outside.

Guys just so you know, I figured it out back on page 1. He pretty much failed himself on his third post.

I also think its funny that back on [girl-shy.com](http://girl-shy.com) or whatever, he plays of failing here and also says he’s gonna move on to another forum, but he’s still signed on. Lonely troll cannot let go QQ

Also, what kind of dyslexic masturbation machine trolls to a pheromone site to bash on PUAs? was he expecting to take candy from a baby?

Just let this thread die. Please

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**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/99 "2009-08-17T23:28:31Z")

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> [@dapg01](#):
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> Wow, there’s some disturbing stuff on that forum. Did anyone check out other threads on it? There’s one about sucidal thoughts where one member posts he alerady tried and will try again and another member tells him to do it another way because it’s less messy.
> 
> I thought this guy was just a troll, but he definitely needs professional help.
> 
> ps. can someone de-nominate him from topic of the week?

I went to love shy to poke around those guys are really screwed up. It seems like any positive advice is ridiculed. Someone should send the link to a board mental health facility. These guys seem to suffer from a weird form of social dyslexia.

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**Author:** ![pheroclone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheroclone/32/1312_2.png) [@pheroclone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroclone)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/100 "2009-08-17T23:34:11Z")

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> [@Blacky\_Chan](#):
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> I went to love shy to poke around those guys are really screwed up. It seems like any positive advice is ridiculed. Someone should send the link to a board mental health facility. These guys seem to suffer from a weird form of social dyslexia.

Exactly what my conclusion was. Our “Advanced” calls himself Just Jack on their forum and is actually known there for being especially bitter and stubborn. I feel really bad for them because they don’t even seem open to the idea that they could be wrong. There are a couple really sick guys on there. I saw one of them had multiple posts telling people to kill yourself with Nitrous Oxide, as you will enjoy your last moments. Truly chilling. And pretty much the EXACT OPPOSITE of what this forum’s like.

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**Author:** ![onthornsilay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onthornsilay/32/1427_2.png) [@onthornsilay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/onthornsilay)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-will-you-guys-realize-that-looks-are-almost-all-that-matters/31619/101 "2009-08-17T23:49:32Z")

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why is advanced trolling, not just this forums but other forums with the same topic? what point are you trying to prove? we dont care…

i think this idiot, bought 2 get one free of pherlue and tried it on, and went to his high school expecting the hot cheerleader to just jump on him.. clearly not knowing how to work the pheros, he went away crying, and its left him scarred for life…

not all pheros work, some are scams, and Advanced, because u never did your research, u got scammed… i bet u never tried any pheros from here… if not why dont you just stfu and buy a bottle… and if it doesnt work its double your money back, so u can pay for twice as much porn as u normally do…

and OMG PHEROCLONE… i cant read any of your posts because my eyes keep getting drawn to that horrid avatar you have… i have never seen anything more horrfying… its like that Blackhole Sun video… yuk…

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