# When women know. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 16, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676 "2007-07-16T20:16:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/21 "2007-07-18T10:09:48Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > If you need a soulmate go to [harmony.com](http://harmony.com) and take the test. hehe that’s a spamsite 😃 you meant eharmony ! ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/22 "2007-07-18T16:25:55Z")
There is a phrase I read here before buying any phero product and I think it’s the best way to describe foreign people what pheros do, it said that pheros might be like wearing an Armani suit, it can make the difference but normally it would only help a little or just nothing (or even be worse depending on context), so I agree completely with rollercoaster’s “make-up idea”, in fact I’ve seen some cases that makeup is much more tricking than any powerful symphonic-phero-mix can be 0:-) ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/23 "2007-07-18T19:50:19Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Well I’m not about to meet this person myself most likely… Women talk dude 😛 Sooner or later some feminist or female journalist will get onto it and stir up a storm. Silence is golden. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/24 "2007-07-18T19:51:41Z")
> [@gitsmw](#): > > If you ever get caught in a “but it’s deceptive and wrong!” argument, just counter, “no, what’s deceptive is washing your natural pheromones off with soap. This is just getting back in touch with nature.” That’s a good argument. Plus make-up is deceptive too. ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/25 "2007-07-18T19:54:14Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > In my experience reason and discussion don’t usually work and merely distract you from the task at hand, getting into her pants. Discussions of and strong opinions about pheromones, plastic surgery, politics, religion, PC, women’s rights, computer platforms and racial preferences can be like poison to an escalating relationship. Like legs, I don’t really care what they think when I need to get my nut off. If you need a soulmate go to [harmony.com](http://harmony.com) and take the test. A man with a mind almost like my own. Get into her pants! Yeah! You’re right - I always keep conversation light and neutral. Except when it’s talking dirty 😛. All the “heavy” stuff I keep for the girls I got no chance with or am not interested in. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/26 "2007-07-18T20:10:16Z")
> [@manfriday](#): > > Women talk dude 😛 > Sooner or later some feminist or female journalist will get onto it and stir up a storm. Silence is golden. 😃 hehe true.. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Legs\_on\_Approach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/legs_on_approach/32/2134_2.png) [@Legs\_on\_Approach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Legs_on_Approach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/27 "2007-07-18T20:43:35Z")
lol… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/28 "2007-07-18T21:55:24Z")
We should all treat pheromones as just another part of the mystery method. ---
**Author:** ![Legs\_on\_Approach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/legs_on_approach/32/2134_2.png) [@Legs\_on\_Approach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Legs_on_Approach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/29 "2007-07-18T22:08:30Z")
right on! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/30 "2007-07-19T01:23:06Z")
No way. They’re part of the Gegogi path to social and erotic enlightenment. Mystery method is ah hoe lotta BS designed to string along losers, give those unable to think for themselves a quasi-religion and enable men/boys that shouldn’t be allowed breed to pollute the gene pool. Sorry, I couldn’t resist jerking yo’ chains that bind!😉 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/31 "2007-07-19T02:38:13Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Mystery method is ah hoe lotta BS designed to string along losers and take thier money. most of those guys that worship mystery and his method would be better off investing thier efforts in some good old fruedian therapy rather than hope thier social deficiencies be cured by some guy that preaches mumbo jumbo behavioural techniques, in fact mystery might find fruedian therapy useful too, the guy seems like a wacko ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/32 "2007-07-19T06:23:28Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > and take thier money. > > most of those guys that worship mystery and his method would be better off investing thier efforts in some good old fruedian therapy rather than hope thier social deficiencies be cured by some guy that preaches mumbo jumbo behavioural techniques, in fact mystery might find fruedian therapy useful too, the guy seems like a wacko I was at a cafe couple of days ago, usually they show VH1 on their widescreen tv, instead they were showing MTV for once.. was it Mystery’s fault? could be! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![talkischeap](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/talkischeap/32/2274_2.png) [@talkischeap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/talkischeap)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/33 "2007-07-19T21:00:40Z")
I think it’s far more likely for a woman to be skeptical about the effects and think it ranges from funny to pathetic. Pheros have a really bad rap in the consumer market (well deserved by all the scams). At any rate, I don’t talk about it to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/34 "2007-07-19T21:02:56Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > and take thier money. > > most of those guys that worship mystery and his method would be better off investing thier efforts in some good old fruedian therapy rather than hope thier social deficiencies be cured by some guy that preaches mumbo jumbo behavioural techniques, in fact mystery might find fruedian therapy useful too, the guy seems like a wacko I concur. I gotta give him credit for cashing in on misogyny by disguising social-self-help as PUA. He’s totally cheapened the term PUA as a whole. They never needed ebooks, seminars, and DVDs. They just went out there through trial and error and succeeded. Calibrated themselves accordingly. Some people are just clueless though: 1. Get out of the house. 2. Find girls. 3. Talk to them. Most people aren’t motivated enough to even do that. They need to read or watch something. Another common thing: Those that are already great socially and do ok with women will flourish with the MM. Those that fail it with or without the method still need to develop socially. ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/35 "2007-07-20T18:17:17Z")
Learning some serious interpersonal skills via relatively more reliable pseudo-sciences like NLP is a better investment of time and effort. We should focus on success in general (financial, intellectual etc.) rather than a one-track focus on women. Although I’m a totally horny devil, I do believe that we should try to reach for higher levels of existence as well. That’s the problem I have with interpersonal skills that focus purely on luring women, better to learn how to lure people in general i.e. customers. One can take these “general” principles and apply them to women if need be. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/36 "2007-08-03T06:40:18Z")
I’m reading a book and audios about which takes that approach, though it’s about NLP in relationships with women mainly… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/37 "2007-08-03T09:57:14Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > In my experience reason and discussion don’t usually work and merely distract you from the task at hand, getting into her pants. Discussions of and strong opinions about pheromones, plastic surgery, politics, religion, PC, women’s rights, computer platforms and racial preferences can be like poison to an escalating relationship. Like legs, I don’t really care what they think when I need to get my nut off. If you need a soulmate go to [harmony.com](http://harmony.com) and take the test. Oh my you naughty naughty man LOL 😉 My advice keep it to yourselves guys. If she is really open minded then later on in your relationship or whatever you may want to bring the subject up in case she may want to use some to, to heat up your time together. 🙂 But you dont need to share that information. Its just a product to enhance who you are but your still you so your not misleading anyone. If any women does accuse you of misleading them ask them if they wear make up or own a push up bra. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![DrSmellThis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@DrSmellThis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrSmellThis)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/38 "2007-08-03T14:17:34Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > In my experience reason and discussion don’t usually work and merely distract you from the task at hand, getting into her pants. Discussions of and strong opinions about pheromones, plastic surgery, politics, religion, PC, women’s rights, computer platforms and racial preferences can be like poison to an escalating relationship. Like legs, I don’t really care what they think when I need to get my nut off. If you need a soulmate go to [harmony.com](http://harmony.com) and take the test. Classic Gegogi. 🙂 Yep. Having an airtight, logical story doesn’t help with women who are making romance decisions about you. It’s all about their perceptions and feelings. If it becomes a serious relationship, there might be a right time to tell, or maybe not. Why force it? Having said that, the one woman I told didn’t mind. The important thing is that you feel good about wearing them. It’s just a relationship, romance and communication enhancement tool. Why not? Make love not war. Hey baby, once a month I spray some shit on that makes your PMS better. Give me some love. ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/39 "2007-08-03T21:40:20Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > I’m reading a book and audios about which takes that approach, though it’s about NLP in relationships with women mainly… Aaah! That’s cool! What’s the title? I don’t what the women scene’s like with you, but for guys who freeze with a fear/insecurity that prevents them from chatting up a girl, I recommend applying these general principles to women you are **not** attracted to or even men. This way you could gauge your progress better and keep at it because you will not perceive failures with the same (and powerful) “rejection” feeling. I hope that didn’t sound like a load of shit - I can unintentionally obfuscate at times. ---
**Author:** ![manfriday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e68b1a/32.png) [@manfriday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/manfriday)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676/40 "2007-08-03T21:42:36Z")
Yep, light and easy that’s the way to chat - save the heavy stuff for when you’re in her pants. 😛 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/when-women-know/4676.md?page=3)