# Where did you "Get Game" From? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 3, 2006, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119 "2006-02-03T06:31:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/21 "2006-04-11T19:50:34Z")
Okie Dokie… and now a word from the skunk works a new daytime TeeVee drama: Life As A Laboratory… Me and some other practiced NLP dudes are now in the concocting phase… we’re taking everything we know on multiple levels, unconscious, liminal, fully conscious, metaphorical, our own personal databases of hard won knowledge… basically the kitchen sink thrown in… and we’re toiling away at a new grade (or mindset, or something) of NLP, as if anyone has well clarified what NLP is in the first place… So, being the senior trolls dwelling in our dark and smoky cave on the far edge of the known world… I think we are seeing the first glimmers of a new thing-a-ding, Third Generation NLP… this has many tempting possibilities within, although we aren’t really sure what we’re doing, we have no choice but to trust the processes we have a lifetime of being associated with… and to be painfully candid, have grown at last frustrated and bored with as well… These Mystery Method and related specialty uses of NLP are extremely interesting because they give us street level, hard reality feedback of what an unusual community with specific goals CAN do with NLP, since they have taken it and run with it, then creating their own meta-ideas (thinking about their own thinking) about HOW one does this NLP stuff… OK, we have fun watching them approach their issues, generate distinctions and philosophies to explain their experiences and results, then we take that up and ask ourselves what to do with it on one higher logical level… Which leaves us where ? I’m fairly certain that as we strengthen the 3rd generation processes, rest assured they will seem/feel/translate as unfamiliar, heterodox… possibly as iconoclastic as the 1st generation… with that the very models of “game” will change, both in ways subtle and dramatic… approaching “invisible game”, or “deep non-game”…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SyraBrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@SyraBrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SyraBrian)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/22 "2006-04-11T20:05:56Z")
I remember when I first ordered Ross Jeffries’ book. I tried it out on a female friend of mine and she got pissed at me. Ross was a bit too much of a self-loathing “let’s project our baggage” woman hater for me to take him too seriously. Forunately, most of the modern day NLP practioners don’t come with Ross’ emotional baggage. Anybody remember that masked man reality dating show where the contestant used NLP techniques? He was really successful…for a while. ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/23 "2006-04-11T20:17:40Z")
The best Gen III work is transparent to the user when we refine the patterns and installations of Gen III you won’t even know that you are using anything. You MAY have a feeling, some report it as a mild head buzz, that new pathways of consciousness are being exercised, and that’s it… one of the signs of poor technique (meaning:bad teaching or bad models) is that of “efforting” … if one experiences effort, or mind collisions with whoever, then the driving needs to improve or one should have a new vehicle… many of these approaches are like trying to drive a 18 wheel truck like a Porsche… everybody instinctively gets out of the way… ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/24 "2006-04-11T21:39:36Z")
Excuuuuuse me… GEN III is already taken, we’re doing GEN IV I see Robert Dilts has already used GEN III as the trainers of the 1990s who now represent the fresh horses of the NLP cavalry… fine and good, have at it fellas… whatevah… the most compelling inklings are the newer, so far rawer… GEN IV then… post something or other… post 9/11 consciousness, post Jerry Springer-Rush Limbaugh-Ipod-Home Improvement-Global Melt- limited earth versus infinte ambition- commodified orgasm as perfect advertisement -cult as family versus family as cult - tongue piercing- obeisity versus anorexia- depleted uranium armor piercing ordnance- bizarro china political rituals- post stephen spielberg comic books with extreme production values as serious thought- post celebrity as parallel universe- divine excrement snack food turbo energizer- corporate joy complex of zero point self illusory buddhism NLP perfected thought shield tachyon pebbles… I simply must lay off this damn PMX 101 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/25 "2006-12-02T14:10:34Z")
Game Bump, since this topic has come up in newer threads too. (It’s worth reading Michael’s original post also). > [@tacitus](#): > > You wouldn’t think this first crack off the bat. I think I’ve had my best results from two things, a lot of vocal TRAINING, not listening to CDs or reading books, but working with a good teacher… even my ex-wife says she hardly recognizes me on the phone and she likes the improvement… more unexpected, instead of a deeper, gravelly voice it gave me a more youthful, fresher voice like a younger guy… a lot of guys mess up by trying to sound deep and rich and then sound like hung over oafs. I’ve heard so many “masters” with self defeating verbal tics and tonal problems, four highly regarded NLP “masters”, or self promoted as such, and you’re thinking, WHO is going to take these guys (and gals) seriously ? There will forever be a glass ceiling over their heads when it comes to whatever they’re pitching… > > The second thing is high level of body awareness, I do a ton of Alexander technique and associated body consciousness activities, all the time, when I’m up, down, depressed, tuned up, I keep on working the motor neurons… many, many people today have poor body/spatial/situational awareness, they’re kind of mindlessly trundling along like they’re on a conveyor belt or something, or sitting there imploded in their personal mind space, like their sphere of consciousness is about the size of a ping pong ball… the thing is that people with high level body awareness are interesting, even captivating to watch, even their simple movements are kind of poetic and absorbing… Fascinating to realise the impact that bodywork can have on one’s voice, even after just one session. I had no idea bodily tension was so related to vocal quality. Reading up on it though, I see that Alexander’ Technique was originally a voice and breathing method. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/26 "2007-12-14T00:57:56Z")
bump again… since many new joiners in the past year. read the thread from the beginning. tacitus is right about the impact of vocal quality and body consciousness. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/27 "2007-12-14T05:05:43Z")
Yup very important thread. Good call PheroQuirk ---
**Author:** ![getup82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@getup82](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/getup82)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/28 "2008-04-15T08:49:37Z")
ive read on here that its 90% you and 10% the phero product, i agree and just wanted to share a website that i take pleasure in reading. I am in no way affiliated with this guy but he really seems to have his stuff together, honestly its gotten me through alot and has helped me succeed with women, here is the site [The Reality Method](http://www.realitymethod.com) go there to learn how to succeed with women and so u can be the best person u know you can be. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/29 "2008-04-15T11:07:45Z")
It all started for me when I saw a Venusian Arts EBook. The name really appealed to me, so I downloaded it. Within hours I had gobbled it up, and I was armed with some routines to go and try. Success. The routines worked like they said they would, so I built my own and added some in from The Game. Whoooh what a rush when you move past your fears of approaching women! All the pickup articles and books gave me reassurance that I could succeed. The most important thing to my game involved getting out into the real world and applying the skills that I had learned. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/30 "2010-10-15T20:40:06Z")
I just googled the name of an ex-Playboy playmate Tiffany Taylor and discovered she has a dating guide and site. It seems quite interesting! 😃😃😃 Anyone tried her stuff? edit: One of the bonuses, hypnodate, comes with an article about pheromones.. unfortunately the article links to some crappy site selling a -none product rather than here.. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/31 "2010-10-15T22:38:15Z")
Never gave a shit about “game” and still don’t. Seems like playing a role to me and not a very pleasant one at that. I had just one problem before AD came along with these products: I just didn’t always know when women were attracted to me. Now it’s obvious. Thank you very much, AD. I don’t like to play roles, but I don’t mind if others do when I get to be the director. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119/32 "2010-10-16T04:44:07Z")
I started with the Mystery Method, and while I’ve read just about every book and watched every DVD on the subject I’ve found that most either rehash Mystery’s stuff and the few that teach something Mystery may have left out but those that do can very easily fit in the model. I see quite a few new up and coming PUA’s trying to make a name for their methods by comparing it to Mystery’s…which ultimately stands as proof that he’s still number one. I think some of these guys need to read their own advice about approval seeking and beta male behavior. I even saw a vid where some guys trying to start their own company or something cornered Style at a book signing and tried to challenge him to a “pick up contest” of some sort even implying they’d “take on Mystery” as well. I guess trying to prove that they can close faster with their method than Mystery or somebody using his method. Ultimately it’s a stupid challenged because first off, I pick up girls for the sake of getting the girl…not to prove I can do it better than joe blow next to me. Secondly Mystery himself has said his method has time requisites. That comfort stage is CRUCIAL. I’ve toyed with the techniques of the RSD guys and to be honest I did close faster…much faster in fact but I also got a lot of buyers remorse which means that while I did get same day closes I wasn’t getting the follow up dates I would get with Mystery’s model. The M3 gives me a chance to demonstrate my value, actually get to know the girl and showing her a little bit of who I am. I like repeat business too much and positive word of mouth (yes I’ve met girls through girls) to risk the having the girl feel regret, shame, embarrassment or anything negative because I wanted to fuck her within an hour instead of spending four actually talking to her. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-did-you-get-game-from/119.md?page=1)