# Where do Pheros Come From??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 30, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824 "2007-01-30T00:37:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kevin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2acd7d/32.png) [@Kevin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kevin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/1 "2007-01-30T00:37:28Z")
I understand that pheros are made synthetically epically in the case of colognes. Do companies such as the one represented here buy the pheromones from a manufacturer, or do they make them themselves? Are there different formulas for the different types of [pheromone colognes](https://a314.com/shop/) on the market? Or is it the strength that makes the difference? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/2 "2007-01-30T01:02:48Z")
> [@Kevin](#): > > I understand that pheros are made synthetically epically in the case of colognes. Do companies such as the one represented here buy the pheromones from a manufacturer, or do they make them themselves? Are there different formulas for the different types of pheromone colognes on the market? Or is it the strength that makes the difference? im going to let jasmin or mharris handle this one unless there is no answer in a few hours. then i’ll butt in 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/3 "2007-01-30T01:13:46Z")
> [@Kevin](#): > > I understand that pheros are made synthetically epically in the case of colognes. Do companies such as the one represented here buy the pheromones from a manufacturer, or do they make them themselves? Are there different formulas for the different types of pheromone colognes on the market? Or is it the strength that makes the difference? Pheros are derived from all the mojo that Dr. Evil drained from Austin Powers. 😃 Just playing. I’ couldn’t resist. _LOL_ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/4 "2007-01-30T01:16:07Z")
> [@Godhand](#): > > Pheros are derived from all the mojo that Dr. Evil drained from Austin Powers. 😃 Just playing. I’ couldn’t resist. _LOL_ great i’ll tell jasmin her help is unnecessary here,there it is, in a nutshell [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/party0006.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/party0006.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/5 "2007-01-30T01:35:43Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > great i’ll tell jasmin her help is unnecessary here,there it is, in a nutshell > > [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/party0006.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/party0006.gif) They were supposed to keep _that_ part of it a secret!!!🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Pharcyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Pharcyde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pharcyde)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/6 "2007-01-30T01:48:53Z")
i always thought they baked all their own stuff from scratch. they seem to do a lot of research so being in complete control of all the chemicals would certainly help. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/7 "2007-01-30T02:40:22Z")
Hey there, Kevin, Maybe this post here will answer a couple of your questions about our [pheromones](https://a314.com/)/putatives’ origins: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-we-did-it-latest-change-affects-all-but-especially-asia-europe/585/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-we-did-it-latest-change-affects-all-but-especially-asia-europe/585/1) And let me add to that a little: We have them made by the world’s best hormone and pheromone chemist. He’s been doing this for over 40 years, and synthesized all the molecules for all the successful studies, such as the one done by Dr Regina Maiworm. We have the world’s largest collection of both active human pheromones and putative (“suspected”) human pheromones. This surpasses even Dr George Dodd’s collection! ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/8 "2007-01-30T02:48:02Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > his surpasses even Dr George Dodd’s collection! Jasmin, that is a pretty big claim to make, you do know Dr George Dodd is GOD of the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) world? the man is science within science.. but as the sayin goes; “There is always someone cleverer than yourself” so guess its possible… ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/9 "2007-01-30T02:52:49Z")
> [@](#): > > Jasmin, that is a pretty big claim to make, you do know Dr George Dodd is GOD of the pheromone world? the man is science within science.. > > but as the sayin goes; “There is always someone cleverer than yourself” > > so guess its possible… Actually, Bronz, I had to call Harris to make sure I could say this on the forum without looking like a big butthead… AFAIK, our collection is bigger - esp. with all the putatives cranking out by the millisecond. We’re actually releasing some moreputatives later this week, and have evenmore in the woodworks later this month. Can’t release them all at the same time without causing DIHL with forum members 😃😃 . However, I might not be taking into account a Dodd secret collection? I know you’re in with the Dodd crew - maybe you can update me with the accurate info?⭕p ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/10 "2007-01-30T09:19:49Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Actually, Bronz, I had to call Harris to make sure I could say this on the forum without looking like a big butthead… > > AFAIK, our collection is bigger - esp. with all the putatives cranking out by the millisecond. We’re actually releasing some moreputatives later this week, and have evenmore in the woodworks later this month. Can’t release them all at the same time without causing DIHL with forum members 😃😃 . > > However, I might not be taking into account a Dodd secret collection? I know you’re in with the Dodd crew - maybe you can update me with the accurate info?⭕p Wow more putatives… That is great 🙂 **Just a suggestion but maybe you guys could ramp up the dosages of some of the putatives that haven’t really shown too much promise.** For example I have tried P78 and it does something but is not ‘great’ in my opinion. Now if you guys made a version of P78 at 100 mcg/spray maybe it would do something really unique and different say at something ridiculously high like 500 mcg. All the experimenters would need to do is spray it 5 times and they might hit gold. We may find properties that we never knew existed to these putatives if we just changed the dosages. I think it is worth a try (well maybe just for you and Michael as this might get kinda expensive 😛 ). Visionary ---
**Author:** ![mindset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mindset](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mindset)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/11 "2007-01-30T10:01:47Z")
Where can I look into these products by Dr. Dodd? 😕 Just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/12 "2007-01-30T19:24:23Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Wow more putatives… That is great 🙂 > **Just a suggestion but maybe you guys could ramp up the dosages of some of the putatives that haven’t really shown too much promise.** For example I have tried P78 and it does something but is not ‘great’ in my opinion. Now if you guys made a version of P78 at 100 mcg/spray maybe it would do something really unique and different say at something ridiculously high like 500 mcg. All the experimenters would need to do is spray it 5 times and they might hit gold. We may find properties that we never knew existed to these putatives if we just changed the dosages. I think it is worth a try (well maybe just for you and Michael as this might get kinda expensive 😛 ). > > Visionary Actually, in some cases, this seems like the perfect thing to do. Some putatives appear to have “gob it on” qualities. Others, (like [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) for instance) show activity in “smidge” quantities. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/13 "2007-01-31T04:48:13Z")
Q: Where do Pheros come from, daddy? A: Well, mommy Pheros and daddy Pheros have baby Pheros … and … go ask your mother. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/14 "2007-02-01T07:56:13Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Actually, in some cases, this seems like the perfect thing to do. Some putatives appear to have “gob it on” qualities. > > Others, (like P83 for instance) show activity in “smidge” quantities. > [@Jasmin](#): > > Hey nbully, > > I can’t speak for Lord Tacitus’ giant megadose adventures, but in some of my preliminary [putative](https://a314.com/) testing, some molecules totally CAN be in giant doses and work to great efficacy. For me, anyway. > > I’m discovering that in some cases, what we hypothesized about doses is completely different from reality. > > For instance, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) **WORKS** in smidge quantities. I was feeling overdosed and spaced out even at 5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)! (2.5 spread between wrists and neck) I was led to believe that I might want to explore going at a much lower dose to explore its properties… > > Whereas some [putatives](https://a314.com/) can go into bathtub quantities: the more you submerge yourself, the more effect you get. [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) comes to mind for this effect for ME, but everyone’s mileage varies. I know some ladies can get agitated under [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/)’s spell, while some, like myself, walk around bowlegged and intense. > > Some other [putatives](https://a314.com/) that aren’t even really really explored, like [P77](https://pheromonelabs.com/) or [P76](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… I have no idea on dosage. Maybe they are things that glisten in giant quantities! Maybe they’re duds? > > We’re introducing more [putatives](https://a314.com/) shortly, to all you crazy ass Tacitus wannabes. We might even bundle a few, to get more people on the [putative](https://a314.com/) train. > > [Tac](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/), keep up the good work! I wonder what would happen if I mixed up a batch of this exact mix and covertly sprayed it on a layman? Just wondering Jasmin with regards to your [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) experiences, and how it **WORKS** in smidge quantities. You were feeling overdosed and spaced out even at 5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)! I will have to try this lower quantity out as I am finding it does tend to make me quite aggressive and angry at 25 mcg and more. Tension and aggression can be an aphrodisiac though of course (eg. make-up sex) so it might not be all bad 😠 . **What have you seen exactly in what P83 does at smidge quantities?** **Also generally if you are finding that some mones work at really large quantities (perhaps Meo-Est?) maybe you guys could try selling/giving away as order bonuses these ‘putatives’ at the higher quantities of mcg. 300 mcg of Meo-Est or 500 mcg of P77 for example might become a standard application that way.** That way more people could test and more results would appear before everyone ‘forgets’ about the old putatives as they play with the new ones. I am thinking it is like in the supplement world. There, some things work in gram doses, most in mg doses, and some (like the herb Huperzine A and the mineral Selenium) in mcg doses. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-do-pheros-come-from/1824/15 "2007-02-01T10:47:03Z")
Hey Vis, follow me over to this thread about [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)… (will edit when done)