# Where to apply seven new products, which mixes work, and what are TAL and TAH?

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for doses following the order of MarkL’s list of phero’s

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> Instant Openness, at back of neck and back of wrists  
> Instant Shine, front, sides of neck, face (I **do** want to be affected)  
> A314, at notch of neck and pecs (I **do** want to be affected)  
> Turn Up the Heat, belt buckle, zipper, crotch (NB: I use straight Androstenone, not Turn Up The Heat)  
> Ammo, back of hand, wrist (inside)  
> Instant Honesty, same as Ammo, forearms

1-3 sprays1-3 sprays  
1 drop  
1/2 to 1 spray  
1 spray, maybe 2 if it’s realy smokey, but even then 1 would probably be best.  
1-3

Don’t wear ammo and T.U.T.H. at the same time.

a314 can be a little stand off ish so if you put it on early in the day, your fine, or smear a little under your nose before you go out. It’s best for work environments, but can create attraction. Be careful of it with the ammo and T.U.T.H.

Use honesty and openness to buffer the ammo and T.U.T.H. Shine work for this as well, but not to the same extent, and is best not to be thought of as something that buffers, but a great product to add in for it’s specific results.

Here are some starter mixes i’ve used (btw I also have straight androstenone as opposed to T.U.T.H, and alpha and beta -nol for openness and honesty)

Gernal out and about mix. Friendly with respect and good communication.  
A314 x1  
Openness x2  
Honesty x1  
Shine x2

Work  
A314 x1  
Shine x2

Smokey party/bar going for attraction  
Ammo x1 or T.U.T.H. x1  
Shine x2-3  
Openness 2-3  
Honesty 1-2 (or leave out entirely as parties and bars aren’t realy the place for deep conversation. Honesty is good if you have a target in mind.)

Non smokey environment party/bar going for attraction  
Ammo x1, or T.U.T.H. x1/2  
Shine x2-3  
Openness 2-3  
Honesty 1-2 (or leave out entirely as parties and bars aren’t realy the place for deep conversation. Honesty is good if you have a target in mind.)

Party, friends, not looking for attraction  
Shine x2-3  
Openness 2-3  
Honesty 1-2 (or leave out entirely as parties and bars aren’t realy the place for deep conversation. Honesty is good if you have a target in mind.)

Conversation only  
Openness x1-4  
honesty x1-3 (for deeper conversation added)

- If you use both, don’t apply higher quantities for both, and you can taylor the depth of conversation by using Openness over honesty or in the reverse. Even leaving out one to go soley for chatty, or deep.

attraction  
Ammo 1 or T.U.T.H. x1/2-1

- add some shine if you like 1-3

vibrance  
Shine 1-4

- Lower doses seem to get better attention from younger age groups. Some pretty spectacular results reported at doses as low as 1 spray.

I think that ammo is a better option than T.U.T.H. if you aren’t "on the prowl.

Check out the phero color chart for more ideas

> [@Phero color chart by MuskCloud: a visual guide to choosing mixes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1833):
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> MuskCloud, I uploaded this in photobucket since your attachment was never approved. I hope you don’t mind. Once again, Give all props to MuskCloud. He put a lot of work into this.

It’s a good idea to test out these products individual to see how they work for you. Then you can decide on mixes and doses that work best for your personal [pheromone](https://a314.com/) signiture, action, personality, social group, ect.

Blood type also has a good deal with androstenone based products  
O type has higher output of natural -none so there is a higher concern for an OD and negative results such as agitation, agression, and avoidance.  
A and B have much lower

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