# Where to buy androstadienone or androstenone for research on gay men?

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 25, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-buy-androstadienone-or-androstenone-for-research-on-gay-men/33560 "2009-10-25T03:07:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![raymar2006](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@raymar2006](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raymar2006)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-buy-androstadienone-or-androstenone-for-research-on-gay-men/33560/1 "2009-10-25T03:07:35Z")

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I want to do some research on the effects of hormones on homosexual men and i can not seem to find a chemical lab or other trustworthy company that will produce Androstadienone or Androstenone. I do not necessarily need their pure form, but i do need to make sure it is the actual chemical. I would truly appreciate any help.  
Thank you  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-buy-androstadienone-or-androstenone-for-research-on-gay-men/33560/2 "2009-10-25T07:50:56Z")

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> [@raymar2006](#):
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> I want to do some research on the effects of hormones on homosexual men and i can not seem to find a chemical lab or other trustworthy company that will produce Androstadienone or Androstenone. I do not necessarily need their pure form, but i do need to make sure it is the actual chemical. I would truly appreciate any help.  
> Thank you  
> 🙂

I don’t mean to sound rude but at 17 I assume that by “do research” you mean you want to test them out yourself?  
Androtics sells Androstadienone (I think it’s still in stock but not 100% sure) and Androstenone… However, at 17 you’d be better off not using Androstenone. Your own production of phero’s is raging so if you add -none to that even tiny amounts will lead to OD 🙂