# Where to get A1? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 8, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611 "2010-04-08T21:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/1 "2010-04-08T21:53:14Z")
I was planning on waiting for androtics to get it back in stock, but steve told me on the phone that that isn’t happening. So where do all of you get your A1 from? Preferably somewhere that you have experience with and is close to as reliable as androtics. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/2 "2010-04-08T22:47:05Z")
I would say something about “Search Button” since its been mentioned sooooo many times, but I’ll save you the trouble. Love-Scent.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/3 "2010-04-08T23:06:48Z")
There are also other unmentionable places with good deals. Google… ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/4 "2010-04-08T23:34:42Z")
I saw love-scent but while I realize it is quite a bit of A1, $80 is a steep price tag. Also, I wouldn’t know how to make it diffuse properly. Do I just mix it in with cologne? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/5 "2010-04-08T23:50:27Z")
The A1 chemset dilution ratios are recorded and discussed in detail on this board. Rather than duplicate dozens of posts you might wanna call those puppies up. You can increase diffusion by intermingling with EOs and/or cologne. Both spraying over and mixing work well. You can also partner it with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), AE, Chikara, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/6 "2010-04-09T00:53:56Z")
There is also an unmentionable place that sells A1 prediluted to more workable doses. Google. ---
**Author:** ![Podekia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/podekia/32/1122_2.png) [@Podekia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Podekia)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/7 "2010-04-09T03:53:31Z")
LS and Google dude.. Check them out… ---
**Author:** ![pherolover23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pherolover23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherolover23)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/8 "2010-04-10T01:29:00Z")
how many mg of A1 do you guys think is appropriate to use? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/9 "2010-04-10T01:31:37Z")
> [@pherolover23](#): > > how many mg of A1 do you guys think is appropriate to use? Use the search function. This topic has been talked about countless times. ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/10 "2010-04-10T10:07:35Z")
I really dont know anything about unmentionable places, but I got mine from LS. They are good quality if you want to know how to dilute them. Just get a Perfurmers alcool from androtics, and for each ml you take out of the PA and put in compensation 1 ml of the A1 you get 5mcg per spray. So lets say you take 3 mls from the PA and put 3 mls from the A1 you get 15mcg, if its 5ml and put 5 ml A1 25 mcg/spray… and so on. just do the racio you want. For more or less $75( just inscribe yourself on their newsletter and get the 20% coupon everyweek) you can get 2 very High concentrated A1 perfumes, of 25mcg/spray each. And furthermore, I have tested some of their products, and has far has I am concerned the only thing worth taking from LS is A1 (and maybe EOW, to get cops to spyke your mixes), everything else is to hard to use and lose ground in relation to androtics. ---
**Author:** ![pherolover23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ad7895/32.png) [@pherolover23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherolover23)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/11 "2010-04-10T15:37:10Z")
thanks falcos that helped a lot 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/12 "2010-04-11T04:37:30Z")
Why don’t Androitics freaking produce some A1? What is up with that? Cost too much? ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/13 "2010-04-11T06:44:52Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Why don’t Androitics freaking produce some A1? What is up with that? Cost too much? From what I’ve heard there was some dumb ass that was using A1 to cause depression in a lot of men. Of course Androtics doesn’t want that on their record so they discontinued it. ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/14 "2010-04-11T08:30:42Z")
I was thinkint it was due to some legal rights. You sure is that k-train? ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/15 "2010-04-11T10:50:07Z")
So that would explain why they discontinued IFM too, since it was a pretty popular product ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/16 "2010-04-11T15:11:45Z")
> [@falcos](#): > > I was thinkint it was due to some legal rights. You sure is that k-train? Ok, here’s the summary of the situation from beginning to end. A1 was patented years ago making it impossible to use it _in a FRAGRANCE_. In other words, Androtics couldn’t add cologne like neroli, akuto, or some of the other scents they usually do. This is why [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) was **unscented**. As time went on, Androtics got concerned about the backlash effects from A1 and this caused them to start looking for alternatives without the negative side-effects. Unfortunately, sometime last year some “sociopath” (A.K.A. douchebag 😠) started tinkering with A1 and used it to fuck people up. Here’s a bit of that convo courtesty of MHarris: " **Since I got wind of our little sociopathpathic “friends” using androstadienone on certain men to INTENTIONALLY to induce depression and suicidal feelings… well, enough was enough.** **I’m not enabling people to harm others this way. I’m not going to be complicit in some psychotic person’s use of this molecule to murder men from the inside out**." Link:[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/instant-female-magic-men-31856-3.html#post267713](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/instant-female-magic-men-31856-3.html#post267713) Obviously, MHarris did not want to be associated with any of these shenanigans which is why Androtics put the brakes on A1 distribution here. I for one, **AM THOROUGHLY PISSED** because if weren’t for those sociopaths we’d still have our FRICKING IFM here right now…😠 But anyway, that’s the story.😃 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/17 "2010-04-11T15:14:23Z")
I think you are over-estimating the power of pheros here. No mone can cause that much depression. Also, feeling a little sentimental and nostalgic is good thing; it makes you appreciate some little things in life. Women are probably comfortable doing that, so they like A1… Their lives are filled with dramas and sentiments 😃 On the other hand, MOST AMERICAN MEN, don’t have much sense how to deal with such feelings. Too many of them grew up watching too macho cowboy stuff, esp midwest americans. I bet LATINOS and BLACKS respond poorly to A1 too, since they put too much emphasis on masculinity and not enough on sensitivity and kindness; however, not so much with East Asians and Europeans - they are more in touch with their sensitivity. Just some cultural differences, I guess. Such pity, but what can you do. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/18 "2010-04-11T15:30:27Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I think you are over-estimating the power of pheros here. No mone can cause that much depression. Also, feeling a little sentimental and nostalgic is good thing; it makes you appreciate some little things in life. Women are probably comfortable doing that, so they like A1… Their lives are filled with dramas and sentiments 😃 On the other hand, MOST AMERICAN MEN, don’t have much sense how to deal with such feelings. Too many of them grew up watching macho cowboy stuff. I bet LATINOW and BLACKS respond poorly to A1 too; not so much with East Asians and Europeans - they are more in touch with their sensitivity. Such pity, but what can you do. I’m simply pulling out what MHarris said and stating sticking with the facts.😉 Personally, I’d LOVE for them to bring back IFM but it’s not my decision CoolKat. I will say though that as an African American, I haven’t noticed any negative responses from men of my race, however it should be noted that living in sunny hot Florida means more sweat, and I’m sure that a lot of guys here are pretty immune to A1 effects. Oh and when I wear A1 I’m usually wearing A314 so…ya.:o Now about the sensitivity thing, this unfortunately is one of the many problems with the “dating game” here in America. Guys here are supposed show little to no “sensitivity” because those that do end up being labeled as gay, soft, or (pardon my french) fags. Or rather, showing TOO much sensitivity is the better word for it. Is being in touch with your sentimental side gay? No, it’s called “knowing yourself”, which many people don’t understand but whatever. I’m just a resident of earth, not the president.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/19 "2010-04-11T15:37:18Z")
so far my A1 source is limited to my new bodywash until I get up $80 (!) for that super concentrated stuff from LS, plus the cost of the stuff to dilute it in. It’s a lot for 1 more molecule ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611/20 "2010-04-11T15:42:13Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I think you are over-estimating the power of pheros here. **No mone can cause that much depression**. The information I gave was from MHarris himself, therefore, it’s pretty much the final word. Also CoolKat, let’s not forget that people react differently to pheros so unless you were those people then you really can’t say what it does or doesn’t do.😉 I do agree that it seems quite odd that a phero like that can cause so much distress but then again, think about Androstenone and what IT does at high enough dosages.😉 Furthermore, rememeber Androtics has to look out for their customers and keep a good image. Even though Androtics isn’t _directly_ responsible for whatever those bad people were doing, they were still the supplier. They don’t want to be associated with anything like, and I can’t blame them. I just wish they still sold it to reporting users.😛 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-get-a1/37611.md?page=2)