# Which combination is better for sexual effects? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 8, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130 "2006-02-08T15:24:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rtharaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@rtharaka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtharaka)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/1 "2006-02-08T15:24:33Z")
A314 with TUTH A314 with Ammunation A314 with dirty I am looking for something that you can wear to a club or bar without much negative effects of ‘none’ and all positive effects of A314. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/2 "2006-02-08T16:41:09Z")
do you have each of those? if so how about trying each combo and share your results? of those 3, i believe dirty has the most -none,then Ammunition then TUTH. and most people seem to think that A314 and -none are easier to use then plain -none so… ---
**Author:** ![rtharaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@rtharaka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rtharaka)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/3 "2006-02-08T17:22:53Z")
Actually I have none of those except A314 … I just wanted to hear opinions before making the right purchase. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/4 "2006-02-08T17:38:20Z")
i dont have TUTH yet, but i believe it is probably closest to what you are looking for because it is made to be used incrementally. ammunition has other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) besides -none and if i remember correctly, dirty is strong -none so maybe not as easy to test for your purposes. i think they also have straight up -none in various mcg dose spray sizes so you could start very small and work your way up to your personal right amount. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/5 "2006-02-08T18:02:46Z")
I’d go with TUTH..I just ordered that for my A314 mix. Ammunition is an “all-in-one”(blend of 3 or so main pheromones) product, so its not a big product for mixes. Dirty is not an everyday sexual enhancer…it should be reserved for clubs and bars on new women, but once you obtain a woman you wouldn’t want to use Dirty ot [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) anymore, because they both contain copulins, which would make you seem like you cheat on them. Otherwise on someone new Dirty and Instant Jerk would come off as I’m a badboy that sleeps with plenty of women and I just had sex effect. TUTH and IS are good products to add to A314 for more sexual effects. IFM and Alpha-nol are also good to add. ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/6 "2006-02-08T21:19:45Z")
Don’t forget to add TAC 😮 TAC adds a major dimension of warmth, security, comfortable, not too rushy… TAC and NONE balance each other out so you will get the kick of NONE without the freaky edge that sometimes happens. You have to be careful with these mixes, too, and that’s why I’m interested in slower release fixatives, which the A314 does a good job with, because assume you’ve got a strong NONE mix that’s flavored with all the other things, well, the other things evaporate first thus in a few hours you can be standing there covered with NONE… there is a misbelief, I think, that NOL converts to NONE, it doesn’t do that in my experience but is sure evaporates more quickly, making it seem like it has converted… anyway, TAC+ NONE+A1 can be seriously sexual, the kind of sexual that women go for, comfy AND hot. With the TAC they get into it more and come hard without becoming all skizzely and jumpy… maybe toss in some MEO-EST for good luck… TAF pushed my head in the wrong direction for sex, though, too analytic, too conceptual… ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/7 "2006-02-09T15:27:09Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > You have to be careful with these mixes, too, and that’s why I’m interested in slower release fixatives, which the A314 does a good job with, because assume you’ve got a strong NONE mix that’s flavored with all the other things, well, the other things evaporate first thus in a few hours you can be standing there covered with NONE… there is a misbelief, I think, that NOL converts to NONE, it doesn’t do that in my experience but is sure evaporates more quickly, making it seem like it has converted… slightly off topic here but, one of the first combos i ever noticed significant results from was SOE&NPA. i really like the SOE scent but it disappears so quickly along with the -rone and -nol that i had to find something longer lasting. plus that damn SOE roller top bottle is completely worthless. one of the first thing i noticed and appreciated about the experimones was the life of the scent. i prefer the SOE scent to neroli but neroli is fine with me and as individual products, experimones come out on top. i don’t know anything about conversion other than what i’ve read elsewhere. what i do know is that for me, the only way to use -none is in a combo and that combo product needs to smell nice and last as long as the -none funk. just another reason why A314 is,imho, a superior product. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/8 "2006-02-09T17:33:18Z")
It’s hard to use heavy Anone products without Anol and/or A314. I just received my TUTH today. I’ve herd that it is pretty diffusive, much more so than most other popular heavier Anone products out there. So i guess I’m going to have to use less and make sure I use enough Anol and A314 with it. quite a few people/women I’ve asked think NPA and TE smell like cat piss. I bet the secret ingredient is something like Rhesus monkey gonadal emissions. ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/9 "2006-02-10T00:32:05Z")
Rumor has it A314 + Impi kicks butt… me, I’m too old for the crazy young sex scene, so I like my gentlemanly TAC+ brews… it has been said to me that if you want to go straight for the holy of holies use A314 + Impi… from my last experience I might make that A314+Impi+TAL … girls love that TAL, makes 'em feel all glowy and SPECIAL… and boy do girls love to feel special !😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/10 "2006-02-10T01:23:53Z")
I hate the smell of IMPI..its a product with beta-nol, alpha-nol, Anone, Arone, LaCroy’s “secret” ingredient, and some new “secret” [pheromone](https://a314.com/) they are calling ETS11. It smells like baby powder cologne or something. There is no reason you couldn’t get the same effect with Androtics products and experimone line. ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/11 "2006-02-10T03:03:42Z")
man, I wish I knew all the subtle ins and outs, to user a bad pun on this here topic… I experiment with many olfactory fragraces, essential oils, non [pheromone scents](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/), actually not explicitly pheromone but I get a good suspicion that there is more to the fragrance thing than meets the rational mind. Low concentrations of certain fragrances that should be too weak to make a definite sensory impression seem to be doing something behavioral to those around me. Now I make up complex concoctions of these things when I go out on the town… there is no way I can specify what the official pheromone contribution is and what the fragrance is causing to happen in women’s brains, I have too often lately seen/felt women melt down with the right aromas… it is like a more complete involvement of their minds comes into play… like, I found the strangest men’s fragrance by Santa Maria Novella, Pau de Espagne, “spanish leather”… it smells more like an exotic male essence from another era than it does a cologne, kind of heavy, dark, animal… nobody else would even think of wearing it, combined it with a little Villoresi Patchouli, fine aged french patchouli, velvety and sweet… it just makes sense with a good male phreromone cloud, women get a whiff and they go liquid on me. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/12 "2006-02-13T11:27:55Z")
Where did you buy these fragrances at? any good online stores? I looked and only found forums. I love the smell of leather. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/13 "2006-02-13T12:04:01Z")
yeah, tacitus, where are you finding all this stuff at? personally i wouldn’t buy a fragrance online unless i had successful test runs on my skin first. i like to go to Sephora just because they are convenient with stores at shopping malls everywhere but mostly because they have snobby pseudo stylish women and girls working there and i like to take up lots of their time and make them feel necessary lol. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/14 "2006-02-13T16:45:45Z")
Yeah, me 3, where do you get these? For the “rarer” stuff you don’t find absolutely everywhere, I like Saks Fith Avenue (you can find one in just about all major cities) and [parfumsraffy.com](http://parfumsraffy.com). They still don’t have some of the crazier finds from tacitus, though, from what I know! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/15 "2006-02-13T20:39:09Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > me, I’m too old for the crazy young sex scene, so I like my gentlemanly TAC+ brews… it has been said to me that if you want to go straight for the holy of holies use A314 + Impi… from my last experience I might make that A314+Impi+TAL … girls love that TAL, makes 'em feel all glowy and SPECIAL… and boy do girls love to feel special !😛 I’d add a spray or two of IFM to the first mix, though perhaps TAL is an effective substitute. Also, without much none women seem to be pliant but more passive (compared to the occasional intense and very forward reaction to Edge/NPA mixes). ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/16 "2006-02-14T00:14:47Z")
Lafco in New York City is close to my office so I can test all the Lorenzo Villoresi and Santa Maria Novella there, and [Lusciouscargo.com](http://Lusciouscargo.com) has an excellent online store for L’Artisan, proabably the classiest fragance house… I have not been all thet impressed by MPG fragrances, they seem somehow off key to my nose. With fragances you have to break them down into lighter day type and heavier night type, and some fall in between. Tea For Two, (lousy name, great juice) is one of Artisan’s best efforts, my sexy little GF loves it… Bois Farine is simply awesome once it setles in, sometimes Villoresi’s Spezie (the best spice frag) and Bois Farine together just smack your sensibilites upside the head… I mixed up SMN’s Peau de Espagne with a little Villoresi’s Patchouli (about 7:1) and a little bit of Villoresi’s Incensi, maybe a tablespoon or two to top off the bottle, 5 drops of ambrette seed oil (bought from Enfleurage in NYC… ambrette doesn’t have much scent on its own but it has a wild enhancer effect on other fragrances, maybe on -mones as well, seems too… makes no sense that it should do what it does, I definitely plan on adding ambrette to my a314 next round to crank it hard) and one decent sized drop of Jasmine Absolute, grandiflorum type from Egypt, something seriously aphrodisiac about Jasmine, a little goes a looong way… let this stuff hang out and settle in for a week, sprayed my T shirt with it… simply DOMINATED, like a mixture of animal, chocolate, perfume, incense, conjured up a big opiated harem filled with soaking wet pleasure bunnies… wouldn’t wear it around too much in the daytime, might get funny looks…😮 😃 😮 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-combination-is-better-for-sexual-effects/130/17 "2006-02-14T00:40:51Z")
Some might find that mix almost feminine due to the Jasmine there’s no problem with the sex aspects of it… if you replicate that mix, don’t overdo it in public areas, about 4-5 squirts on my t-shirt is a good starting point. The waft can be overpowering if you go beyond that. I am considering adding either substituting good old skanky castoreum for the jasmin next batch, or keeping the castoreum with the jasmine… to build an exotic floral versus rutting animal tension… castoreum might take the final result clean around the bend with a ruthless high yield pheromone payload… a Sodomize-Me-On-The-Floor-Right-This-Instant mix 😛 … maybe you want to name your new product that? Instant S.M.O.T.F.R.T.I. ??🙄 … comes with a easy open can of Crisco ? And two serving sized bottles of Godiva chocolate liqueur for afterwards ?😃