# Which gives you More Hits **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 4, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950 "2010-05-04T03:56:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TMacVC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TMacVC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TMacVC)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/1 "2010-05-04T03:56:42Z")
TUTH or IJ And how much sprays ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/2 "2010-05-04T04:01:41Z")
ij gives you more hits… just not necessarily good hits ---
**Author:** ![NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nightisthenewday/32/2148_2.png) [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NIGHTistheNEWDAY)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/3 "2010-05-04T04:24:35Z")
IJ definitely puts out the more blatant of hits. Everytime I pair it up with A314 or IG, it’s hard not to count the DIHL’s. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/4 "2012-12-03T21:26:48Z")
> [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](#): > > IJ definitely puts out the more blatant of hits. Everytime I pair it up with A314 or IG, it’s hard not to count the DIHL’s. How much of each are you wearing? Annnnd! Is DIHLs the only thing the combo is achieving? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/5 "2012-12-03T21:44:40Z")
> [@M&M](#): > > How much of each are you wearing? Annnnd! Is DIHLs the only thing the combo is achieving? Thanks! I want to know this as well. Almost purchased IJ just for the fun of testing it… but then I thought about my age (16), and now I’m not so sure about this. Does pairing it with IG tone it down or make it any… better or more usable/acceptable in my situation? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/6 "2012-12-04T01:09:46Z")
> [@TMacVC](#): > > TUTH or IJ > > And how much sprays Can you tell us how you are/intend to use them? Depends on how and where you use them - IJ in particular will either get you hit after hit and yes, I do find that they can be extreme hits, very good or very bad but in unsuitable situations, the IJ vibe will go very badly and you will be ghosted - ie get nothing at all, ignored even. TUTH is not quite as unpredictable - hits are generally positive, although it can rile some guys and its not good in any kind of non’low sexual environment without decent moderation. Tou still need to choose a determinedly sexual environment though. As for dose, we can’t tell you that - You need to do the basic testing to find the dose that works for you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/7 "2012-12-04T01:15:38Z")
> [@alexjustdoit](#): > > I want to know this as well. > > Almost purchased IJ just for the fun of testing it… but then I thought about my age (16), and now I’m not so sure about this. Does pairing it with IG tone it down or make it any… better or more usable/acceptable in my situation? The object of IJ is a deliberate none OD, not to be toned down! Don’t pair IJ with anything other than A314 (in quantity) or A1. Maybe a little TAC when you head to the bedroom, or [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) to enhance its presence, apart from A314, regard these as steering doses, not moderation - The disparity in none dose will require large quantities of other products to make a great dent in it but will also reduce its effectiveness greatly. And I’m not even convinced that IJ is a sexual product to begin with - More an enhancer/communicator of certain (potentially attractive to a few) fairly full-on personality traits. ---
**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/8 "2012-12-04T02:19:23Z")
Try mx297 or mx390 paired with a half spray of tuth and a little bit of p83. When you get the dose right, you’ll melt women. Guaranteed. Add 12.5 to 25 mcg’s of Androsterone if you want to turn into James Bond. ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/9 "2012-12-04T09:10:28Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > The object of IJ is a deliberate none OD, not to be toned down! > > Don’t pair IJ with anything other than A314 (in quantity) or A1. Maybe a little TAC when you head to the bedroom, or P75 to enhance its presence, apart from A314, regard these as steering doses, not moderation - The disparity in none dose will require large quantities of other products to make a great dent in it but will also reduce its effectiveness greatly.ok > And I’m not even coed that IJ is a sexual product to begin with - More an enhancer/communicator of certain (potentially attractive to a few) fairly full-on personality traits. Ok makes more sense now. But if ODing on [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) can make you ghosted and come off as a creep, how is ODing intentionally on the none in IJ different? Don’t mind letting the jerk out and possibly ghosting, but not really wanting to come off creepy at school. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/10 "2012-12-04T09:42:09Z")
Why in the blazes would you want to wear IJ to school? All that would serve to do is piss-off everyone around you, which is not a very bright tactic for getting an education! It would also make your task harder by repelling a far greater proportion of the very people you want to atract. Save it for times and places you can be fully congruent with its signal. I keep IJ for the more alpha clubs, nights out in wilder places and when I want to let my inner bastard out to play. Or as a kind of “wake-up” experience with certain women who have shown a fondness for overt none. IJ is steered very differently to Ammo, so an OD is a bit different - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a creepy vibe but naked aggression and revulsion, oh yes. Frequently! Yes, you get pronounced self effects but you also need to accept that with IJ on, you will repel far more people than you ever attract but its the strength of reaction when you do meet someone who responds that sets it apart. ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/11 "2012-12-04T09:49:39Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Why in the blazes would you want to wear IJ to school? > > All that would serve to do is piss-off everyone around you, which is not a very bright tactic for getting an education! It would also make your task harder by repelling a far greater proportion of the very people you want to atract. Save it for times and places you can be fully congruent with its signal. Keep IJ for the more alpha clubs, nights out in wilder places and when I want to let my inner bastard out to play. Or as a kind of “wake-up” experience with certain women who have shown a fondness for overt none. > > IJ is steered very differently to Ammo, so an OD is a bit different - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a creepy vibe but naked aggression, oh yes. Frequently! Yes, you get pronounced self effects but you also need to accept that with IJ on, you will repel far more people than you ever attract but its the strength of reaction when you do meet someone who responds that sets it apart. Well i was just thinking, there are those in school thar definitely fit the description of IJ, and I’m percieved as the nice Guy more often than I’d like, so I thought it might not be totally wasted in school, know what I mean? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/12 "2012-12-04T10:04:36Z")
I’m not convinced about the value of IJ in a school/college/work situation - Something more balanced and social with maybe some [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) for a far more usable masculine presence would be a far better option. its a lot more than just phero signature that makes for a jerk and unless you can emulate that with some talent, all you are going to do is alienate people, maybe even including he jerks themselves. ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/13 "2012-12-04T12:34:48Z")
I see what you’re saying. It sounded interesting to test, but I think I’ll wait til I’m older then. ---
**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/14 "2012-12-04T13:18:06Z")
Yep…it’s good to be careful with IJ…especially in light of the fact that a lot of people in this day and age are naturally jerks already anyways…😃 ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/15 "2012-12-04T14:09:49Z")
> [@alexjustdoit](#): > > I see what you’re saying. It sounded interesting to test, but I think I’ll wait til I’m older then. I suggest wearing 2.5mcg [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and 10mcg TAC at school, it’s safe for attraction. TAC could act as a moderator of your own Androstenone production if it’s high due to your age, you will definitely stand out, compared to the other hormone raging boys. You want to have girls be comfortable around you. ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/16 "2012-12-04T20:03:02Z")
I’ll put TAC in my list of things to test next! I think I add things faster than time and money allow 😉 but I’ll get to it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/17 "2012-12-05T03:03:50Z")
Yes, P75/TAC and another social or something sexy/comforting like [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) could be a much more versatile mix in your situation. It would give you a much wider pool of potential targets compared to something overt/aggressive. ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/18 "2012-12-05T16:00:31Z")
I already have ammo (which doesn’t do much for me), is it worth exchanging for summer edition do you think in my circumstance? ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-gives-you-more-hits/189950/19 "2012-12-05T16:26:07Z")
> [@alexjustdoit](#): > > I already have ammo (which doesn’t do much for me), is it worth exchanging for summer edition do you think in my circumstance? I have noticed that it is laid back compared to regular Ammo. If you are 16-20 I would say it may be worth exchanging for regular Ammo but it really depends on the situation.