# Which is more Irresistible to girls Turn up the heat or Ammunition **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 26, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309 "2008-09-26T00:25:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![merridew87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@merridew87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/merridew87)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/1 "2008-09-26T00:25:35Z")
Lets say that I want a girl feel comfortable with me,…to the extent that she hugs me … this next minth Ill buy Ammunition and Turn up the Heat…but which do you recommend??? Which is more powerful ? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/2 "2008-09-26T00:38:38Z")
TUTH isn’t going to make anyone comfortable … aroused yes, cozy and cuddly no … 😉 You’re 21 so I’m assuming she’s around your age or younger? The social products would create more comfort than anything containing androstenone, like both of the ones you mentioned. Try IS, IO, IH, CTTM-2. But of the 2 you mention, go with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), it’s buffered and less likely to scare her away. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/3 "2008-09-26T01:15:27Z")
Carrie is right, neither of them are comfort mones. They create sexual tension. If you want comfort go for IFM or IH. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/4 "2008-09-26T03:44:49Z")
I’m not a big fan of TUTH because I don’t like its scent, not cologne masked like ammo, and also it creates too much of a horndog vibe if used inexperiencedly. I’d suggest going with ammo as its safer but it’ll still give you sexual tension. As a rule of thumb for myself, as I’m terrible with TUTH,use ammo unless you’ve got her in bed already ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/5 "2008-09-26T07:20:34Z")
I’ve discovered why in some cases TUTH can work better than Ammo : The fact that it’s stronger makes the message clear and makes yourself appear as a real “virile” male. Ammo is not as strong and may make yourself appear as a trying-to-be-virile male. TUTH is Wild, Ammo is Mild ! 🙂 I guess it all depends on your natural production of each already… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/6 "2008-09-26T11:28:41Z")
I think AMMO is very virile, It has more substance then Turn Up The Heat alone. AMMO is like a masculine interesting sexy guy you want to just take your time exploring (If you know what I mean ) TUTH is just a hard on in a bottle. No substance, Lets just do it, kinda mix. Now I know all you guys are yelling “YEAH Man thats what I want” LOL But keep in mind that a large percentage of women dont think that way. They need the substance and interest as well as the arousal to make a consicious desicion to react. So TUTH is best used for couples who want to heat things up or around loose slutty women (sorry) LOL. Now ladies dont get me wrong, I am not saying if your effected by TUTH your a slut. I am saying if you follow through strickly on the fact that he is wearing TUTH well then the lable can apply. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Perrai](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perrai/32/293_2.png) [@Perrai](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Perrai)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/7 "2009-02-13T03:10:26Z")
the answer your looking for is me I’m irresistible to girls.I’m the man whore of epic proportions.Lol But you cant bottle me… well u can but that just weird and most likely illegal =] Ammo like anyone said is for attraction and sex appeal. ammo is not as strong but then again in some cases less is more tuth reserve it for when ur ready to get down a dirty.but then again its up to you. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/8 "2009-02-13T03:36:30Z")
> [@magicj76](#): > > I’ve discovered why in some cases TUTH can work better than Ammo : > > The fact that it’s stronger makes the message clear and makes yourself appear as a real “virile” male. > Ammo is not as strong and may make yourself appear as a trying-to-be-virile male. > TUTH is Wild, Ammo is Mild ! 🙂 > > I guess it all depends on your natural production of each already… It’s not really a matter of which one is stronger… it’s a matter of which one is more buffered and which one is more “sharpened”. You can get them both at 2.5 or 5 mcg of androstenone per spray. It’s just that TUTH is very focused and “to the point” in saying “Wanna f\*\*\*?”, while Ammo is more along the lines of “Hello there, ladies, I’d like to draw your attention to how attractive and interesting I am as a social and sexual man.” ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/9 "2009-02-13T06:52:21Z")
Men are such whores. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/10 "2009-02-13T07:14:09Z")
It depends on the man using it and his persona, status and body chemistry. For one guy it may be Ammo but for another, TUTH. A 3rd guy may do better with Ammo spiked with TUTH. Bloody hell some buff hairy upstart may fare terrible with either one but TAA and beta androstenol are friggen bee’s knees for him. So, yeah, there is no correct answer for the original question. The OP needs to get his arse in gear and test and see for himself. I doubt he really gives rat’s ass about what works for Gegogi, CatLord or frickin’ ThunderBalls69. What works for him is the only thing that matters. And only he can determine the answer to his own question… ---
**Author:** ![farmergiles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/farmergiles/32/358_2.png) [@farmergiles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/farmergiles)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/11 "2009-02-13T15:00:03Z")
I’d say as an answer to your question that Ammo is more powerful as an attractant… tuth is more powerful as a directly sexual statement. ( As Tisha said! ) I must admit that I find [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) to be a very good ‘mood setter’ for my GF. ---
**Author:** ![denigro153](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denigro153/32/772_2.png) [@denigro153](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denigro153)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/12 "2009-02-22T03:38:10Z")
i say turn up the heat, i get consistent good reactions from females at bars with it ---
**Author:** ![aequitas300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@aequitas300](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aequitas300)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/13 "2009-05-02T21:03:18Z")
> [@farmergiles](#): > > I’d say as an answer to your question that Ammo is more powerful as an attractant… tuth is more powerful as a directly sexual statement. ( As Tisha said! ) > > I must admit that I find MX203 to be a very good ‘mood setter’ for my GF. …and what if you combine the two? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/14 "2009-05-02T22:18:29Z")
At least for me, Turn Up the Heat works better (when combined with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/).) 1 spray of TUTH and 2 Instant Gentleman (Akuto scent) and women seem to form a circle around me all trying to get close and get my attention. Gonna get the nerve to try Instant Jerk again. Last time was great! ---
**Author:** ![Julia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/julia/32/1388_2.png) [@Julia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Julia)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/15 "2009-05-02T23:01:07Z")
I got my fiance Ammo… That stuff is awesome!!! Like Gegogi said combined with betanol or instant honesty you will absolutely be a babe magnet, its my dream mix on him, and its VERY SEXY and makes me feel safe and even more confident with him. I own TUTH and have noticed that it can make me really agitated OR really turned on depending on where I am in my cycle. My partner he also gets agitated from TUTH and can act funny if hes not getting aroused … I think this stuff is good once you are already involved in a relationship… otherwise it may scare people away and you my experience strange self affects. I hope that helped. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/16 "2009-05-03T16:30:11Z")
If the end goal is getting the hugs as mentioned in the OP then I’m not sure either one would do. Like Tisha said, they are both speaking more to SEX rather than “Affection” (hugging), although Ammunition would be the better of those two for that. IMO for hugs, you need to go more “social” like with A-1 (IFM), alpha-androstenols (Instant Openness), maybe I Shine/TAA, etc. I think [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) (“Instant boyfriend/girlfriend”) may qualify as well. You’re not out to change a woman’s _mind_ opr even her physical drives (directly) as much as her _mood_ (the way she feels). Just my thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/17 "2009-05-03T16:57:44Z")
I’ve recently found that layering them 1:1:1 with p83 seems to work well for me but that’s for me. Different people will find that different products/combos will fit them better. I’m no scientist but I think a lot depends on your own production of None as well as your personality and how you interact with people. It’s no good wearing buckets of TUTH if your sat there in the corner glaring at women. That just sends out a desperate horndog message if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![morrisraam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@morrisraam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/morrisraam)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/18 "2010-01-20T06:04:35Z")
These are great post… Need to tell you guys this I am so excited!!! For Me I used A314 and TUTH just last monday and after months of frign nothing from my wife. or a christmas HJ or **Bday .present ."you got 2 min "**. LOL Lets say tonight I am Tired !!! But Happy !!!. But I wanted to drag my self in here and say This S..t WORKS .!!! I have not tried AMMO because it is out … I will be going baclk to wrk tommorrow and will need to scrub good tonight because I need that TUTH off me! _am in a new department_ with 30-40 women .. talk about Sexual harassment .. I may try my instant shine and CTTM just for to make sure she was not just having a nervouse break down or some thing oh oh shes’s caling me back … some one call 911 ! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/19 "2010-01-20T06:20:55Z")
> [@morrisraam](#): > > These are great post… Need to tell you guys this I am so excited!!! For Me I used A314 and TUTH just last monday and after months of frign nothing from my wife. or a christmas HJ or **Bday .present ."you got 2 min "**. LOL Lets say tonight I am Tired !!! But Happy !!!. But I wanted to drag my self in here and say This S..t WORKS .!!! > I have not tried AMMO because it is out … I will be going baclk to wrk tommorrow and will need to scrub good tonight because I need that TUTH off me! _am in a new department_ with 30-40 women .. talk about Sexual harassment .. I may try my instant shine and CTTM just for to make sure she was not just having a nervouse break down or some thing oh oh shes’s caling me back … some one call 911 ! How much did you apply, Morris? Make sure you get yourself a secret calendar … mark the days the mix works for you, so you’ll know WHEN to apply that same mix. 😉 Tis how you figure out her cycle, me thinks! To answer the post … I ‘THINK’ it will ALWAYS depend on the target. AMMO may work for one, and TUTH may work for another? Other people’s opinion may NOT be for you, and should always be used as a guide to mix and match what works for YOU. My two cents, and not a penny more! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![banana\_skin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@banana\_skin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/banana_skin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309/20 "2010-01-20T06:22:08Z")
I used ammo v1.0 before and this one chick told me I smell like a man when I asked her what does it smell like. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-is-more-irresistible-to-girls-turn-up-the-heat-or-ammunition/20309.md?page=2)