# which pheromones are estrogen derived?

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**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [July 7, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derived/30464 "2009-07-07T03:12:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derived/30464/8 "2009-12-07T06:49:15Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Now some of the members found some clues so P78 and P80 both may be estrogen based. Most reports on P80 indicate a masculine feel but…
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> Estratetraenol which is the one you using is a derivative of Estradiol

These are interesting observations. Some months ago when I was playing with both P80 and Estratetraenol, I was surprised that they both gave me a kind of energy rush that had a very similar quality.

I, too, have always considered P80 to be masculine… I read that several places before (and since) I began testing it. That is part of why I’ve made that assumption, but it does have fairly aggressive feeling. Perhaps, if you compare P80 with the more active aggression of P79, you could find a feminine nature in that contrast. P80 has been called Instant Dominatrix.

Then, again, estrogen is among the breakdown products of testosterone, so it is not always that straightforward…

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