# which pheromones are estrogen derived?

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**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [July 7, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derived/30464 "2009-07-07T03:12:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derived/30464/9 "2009-12-07T08:28:37Z")

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> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#):
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> Okay lets see. How do you differentiate this list?
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> Estratraenol  
> Methoxyestratraenone  
> TAH  
> TAL
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> Seeing as you’ve definitely been around the block a couple times on here I wanna know how that breaks down and thats why i find it preposterous since it almost seems like i would get a preconception that they are all from estrogen. I guess theres many different strains of estrogens but I always saw them as one entity not a branch of similar brothers and sisters

Estrogen comes in many forms & has numerous derivatives & metabolites…

I can’t tell you what TAH & TAL are or how where they fit in the biosynthesis pathway as there are no pheromones that are called TAH & TAL… Those are “code names” that Androtics have given the molecules to get better semi-blind testing data from forum users.

Here’s a link to a thread where JVKohl & I chatted about the biosynthesis of some of the pheromones 🙂 There’s loads of pictures & diagrams in it.

> [@question: pheromone biosynthesis pathways](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-pheromone-biosynthesis-pathways/31828):
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> Warning: Newbie questions here. I’m wondering if there is available a diagram that maps out how the body synthesizes various [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Specifically, something that shows things like “testosterone breaks down in the body into this, and this is excreted onto the skin, where this bacteria changes it into this”, etc… I’m interested in this for two reasons. First, it might give clues as to why certain pheromones have certain effects. For example, a pheromone that is produced by a process that …

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