# which pheromones are estrogen derivites? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 7, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463 "2009-07-07T02:51:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![abqbelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/abqbelly/32/2448_2.png) [@abqbelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abqbelly)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/1 "2009-07-07T02:51:56Z")
i know most popular products are dirivitives of testosterone breakdown… i have had pretty good luck with instant sexiness a and b and taa, but when i added EST to the mix (which, as i understand it, is an estrogen one), it was like… WOWOWOWOWOW so i was wondering what other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are from estrogen and what kind of reactions are they known to elicit… anyone??? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/2 "2009-07-07T04:26:42Z")
> [@abqbelly](#): > > i know most popular products are dirivitives of testosterone breakdown… i have had pretty good luck with instant sexiness a and b and taa, but when i added EST to the mix (which, as i understand it, is an estrogen one), it was like… WOWOWOWOWOW > so i was wondering what other pheromones are from estrogen and what kind of reactions are they known to elicit… anyone??? So, you never did tell us how your “coupling” experiments worked out. To answer your question, we don’t know. They are all experimental and all coded so we can’t guess about most of them. But Est is an estrogen (estratetraenol), meoest (methoxyestratetraenone) is also one either derived from Estrone or Equilin. The rest are all guess. TAH and TAL may be estrogen derivatives, but we don’t know. They may be cortisol- or androgen-derivatives. The androgen ones are both Alpha and Beta Androstenols and -none and Androsterone. And of course, Androstedienone is a testosterone derivative produced in both men and women. Diane ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/3 "2009-07-07T04:59:19Z")
What I’m wondering is why some female products have none in them and how that works with a normal womans chemistry.I know I get interesting reactions from men when I’m wearing ammo but I’m curious a lot of the “sex” products seem to have none in their woman’s version. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/4 "2009-07-07T06:19:21Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > What I’m wondering is why some female products have none in them and how that works with a normal womans chemistry. Adding just a touch of none to the womens product gives you that assertive alpha woman vibe. It’s where the dominant “don’t mess with me” side to some mixes come from… I’m quite -none sensitive when wearing it myself, it can easily make me quite bitchy. None is also great for self effects in the bedroom 😃 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/5 "2009-07-07T06:31:51Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > What I’m wondering is why some female products have none in them and how that works with a normal womans chemistry.I know I get interesting reactions from men when I’m wearing ammo but I’m curious a lot of the “sex” products seem to have none in their woman’s version. There are no women’s products with _ **Androstenone** _ in them. Turn Up the Heat is sometimes used by women, but it is a man’s product. Other products with Androstenone are Dirty, Instant Jerk, A314, Ammo (very small amount) and Instant Gentleman (miniscule amount, maybe). MX292 is heavy in Androstenone (around 5 mcg/spray, we think) and P86. _ **Alpha and Beta Androstenol** _ are in both men’s and women’s products. These are produced more by men naturally, but also by women in smaller amounts. They are generally considered to be gender neutral socials. _ **Androstadienone** _ (no longer available) is the main ingredient in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), also a men’s product. _ **Androsterone** _ is in one women’s product MX314, only. It is also the main component in A314 and Instant Gentleman. Androstenone is one I totally gave up on. Using even a small amount makes me clench my jaw so hard I get neck spasms; and it gives me total anxiety attacks; and it makes me feel sick. I don’t get any sexual vibe from it at all, more like, “Oh, Geebus! I need to wash this off, QUICK!” I tried it in 4 mixes for my husband and ended up having to throw them out. What a waste. Androsterone, on the other hand, makes me euphoric. I love it. Diane ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/6 "2009-07-07T08:23:22Z")
Yup, not keen on the rone either. Instant jerk is hot but I won’t touch my boy beyond flirting when hes wearing it my brain goes er no. lol I wonder about mystery boy as well. That TUTH and a314 are not sniffer tested by me. \>.\< bleeting insomnia I always get so hyper waiting on packages. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/7 "2009-07-07T08:36:51Z")
Actually anone and arone are used in women’s products more often then you think here. Dosage is the key and this may be why some of the ladies are having trouble with it on its own. I have trouble with arone myself when I use it on its own but I know I use it in a few mixes here and its fine and works well for me. This just means I haven’t figured out how to use them on there own correctly not that they wont work for me. I know just by looking at the lists in each persons signature that some people who have had trouble with anone use it in mixes and are not even aware of it. Jasmin and me talked about this once when she was wondering why so many women are scared of this particular molecule. Anone does cause a sexual response in males when worn by a women and is a key in the womens sexual mixes . Some of the DHC series for instance and a few others as well that are stand byes here. Abqbelly, I answered you down in theory on this already. I forgot about meoest, Diane is trying to determine what that one is exactly so go with what she tells you on this one. Another possibility we forgot is [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) This one Jasmin has repeatedly told us to get instead of EST and she told me its as close as you can get to est without buying it so I am assuming from that is may be estrogen based. Like Di suggested its basically guess work right now. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![abqbelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/abqbelly/32/2448_2.png) [@abqbelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abqbelly)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/8 "2009-07-07T09:57:47Z")
i think i have a high testosterone level for a little girl. lol i dont do well with anything ‘male’. i think i put that stuff out enough… thanks tish! isn;t the meoest supposed to be more ‘male’? i just got the regular est from love scent, which i know isnt well loved around here but it’s working GREAT for me… ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/9 "2009-07-07T17:04:46Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Actually anone and arone are used in women’s products more often then you think here. Dosage is the key and this may be why some of the ladies are having trouble with it on its own. I have trouble with arone myself when I use it on its own but I know I use it in a few mixes here and its fine and works well for me. This just means I haven’t figured out how to use them on there own correctly not that they wont work for me. > > I know just by looking at the lists in each persons signature that some people who have had trouble with anone use it in mixes and are not even aware of it. > > Jasmin and me talked about this once when she was wondering why so many women are scared of this particular molecule. Anone does cause a sexual response in males when worn by a women and is a key in the womens sexual mixes . Some of the DHC series for instance and a few others as well that are stand byes here. > > Abqbelly, I answered you down in theory on this already. I forgot about meoest, Diane is trying to determine what that one is exactly so go with what she tells you on this one. > > Another possibility we forgot is P74 This one Jasmin has repeatedly told us to get instead of EST and she told me its as close as you can get to est without buying it so I am assuming from that is may be estrogen based. > > Like Di suggested its basically guess work right now. > > Tisha Are you talking about MX’s, Tisha? I was specifically referring to the consumer line of women’s products. Diane ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-pheromones-are-estrogen-derivites/30463/10 "2009-07-07T22:09:27Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Are you talking about MX’s, Tisha? I was specifically referring to the consumer line of women’s products. > > Diane Yep thats what I am referring to. None of the female consumer mixes has anone or arone in them. Tisha