# Which product have you got your most obvious hits off of?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 6, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852 "2008-09-06T20:02:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/81 "2010-12-28T18:38:00Z")

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Ammo + IS never fales!!

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/82 "2010-12-29T04:51:38Z")

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Ummm…[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/),P83 with some IG = 2nd base in Whole Foods? skipping first… FTW

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**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/83 "2010-12-29T05:01:37Z")

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[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) all the way.

combine it with A314 + AMMO + IH, the hits are off the world.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/84 "2010-12-29T15:09:40Z")

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> [@Aghor](#):
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> MX297 all the way.
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> combine it with A314 + AMMO + IH, the hits are off the world.

That looks tempting! At what combination have you tested that combo, A … 2:2:2:2?

HITS OFF THE WORLD? Care to share more + age ranges, if you noted a pattern. Thanks!

Trying to figure out my New Years mix, and I was going with Wildflower’s **3 sprays of AMMO, 3 Sprays of IShine, 30mcg of P83, 40mcg of P96,** but I’m a [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) fan, too. Not just wearing it any old time, any old place, 'cause it’s scary to not get more. I may just add the A314 and IH to his mix.

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**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/85 "2010-12-30T09:49:44Z")

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> [@M&M](#):
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> That looks tempting! At what combination have you tested that combo, A … 2:2:2:2?
> 
> Trying to figure out my New Years mix, and I was going with Wildflower’s **3 sprays of AMMO, 3 Sprays of IShine, 30mcg of P83, 40mcg of P96,** but I’m a MX297 fan, too. Not just wearing it any old time, any old place, 'cause it’s scary to not get more. I may just add the A314 and IH to his mix.

what I used was ..  
A314 (rev23) 1 drop  
[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) 3 sprays  
Heavy AMMO 2 sprays  
IH 3 sprays (I’ve gone higher on IH, but the environment was different and was rather complementing the use of heavier dose of IH..When I want o bond with someone, its IH overdose time.. 😃 but for parties I’d prefer more Shine than IH, though I’d wear a teeny bit of IH too. ) but that depends on the crowd you are with and whats on your agenda 😃

> [@M&M](#):
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> HITS OFF THE WORLD? Care to share more + age ranges, if you noted a pattern. Thanks!

Just to narrate one of the hits,  
there was this very pretty girl in my dance class. i barely had any interactions with her before. that was the second day I applied MX297 to class. had IS in addition to IH and off course AMMO. She is 25. we both know each others name cause ewe hear it being called in class else no direct interactions forget introductions.

she was dancing with another guy, after the dance, she comes next to me, started complaining about the heat (ac was working …) strikes up a conversation, and after 10 minutes, she was leaning on my shoulder, standing on one leg and showing me her other feet and saying something downright silly like pointing out how dirty it got when she danced without the shoes.. by end of class I had her phone number. all this from a girl with whom I almost never spoke before

Still, when bedding the woman is on immediate agenda , I think higher doses (2 or above ) of 297 is a hindrance though 2-3 sprays is exactly whats needed to get wild hits, as in women I have never talked to.. or who barely know me coming to me and chating me up, eyeing me openly (the come fuck me right here look). Some of them wont keep off even when they have been told that I’m married.

All hits from women between 20-30 years. mostly mid twenties. didnt have much interaction with 30 + women, but the few interactions I had were very positive. Across the board, the interactions were mellow like smooth aged brandy, and generating a bonding feeling.. must be the combined result of 297 and IH and I tend to go overboard with IH.

Disclaimer: I dont know shit abt PUA/ or whatever psycho thingy used to seduce women… hope to learn it someday. Looks wise I am aveg built, certainly not muscular, but still goodlooking and always sharply dressed.

Alternately try this one from vespero:

> [@MX297 vs. MX390: Battle of the Scents!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-vs-mx390-battle-of-the-scents/43720/9):
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> MX390, Androstenone, and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Application: 3 sprays MX390 (one to wrists, one to neck, one split between wrists and neck) 2 sprays MX388 (5mcg androstenone) (one to wrists, one to neck) 2 sprays P83 at 12.5mcg/spray = 25mcg (one to wrists, on to neck) Results: I applied right before heading to a Christmas party some of my friends had planned. It was supposed to be a “fancy” party where everyone would dress up, but the guy whose house we were going to use forgot to tell us until earlier tha…

**Whatever mix u use, please do let us know the results of the new year eve party**.. will be watching ur journal 🙂

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/86 "2011-01-15T17:57:19Z")

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MX292 and 1.23A for me.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/87 "2011-01-20T13:03:32Z")

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> [@SomeoneElse](#):
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> Instant Shine (x2), Alter Ego and NPA. IS and NPA work well together.

How do you cover the npa stink ? Does IS do the job? I notice this is one of the most unique and true posts I’ve seen. Whenever I wear chikara/edge, then ammo and instant shine I’ve had women literally smiling and joking with me , asking me all kinds of personal questions as if they know me well and flirting with me and I do or say almost NOTHING but reply back! And they know I’m taken! Other days without this mix I try to use game plans, show interest, smile , dress nicely and I get not even a smile.

dsouza

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/88 "2011-01-21T05:55:42Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> How do you cover the npa stink ? Does IS do the job? I notice this is one of the most unique and true posts I’ve seen. Whenever I wear chikara/edge, then ammo and instant shine I’ve had women literally smiling and joking with me…

Are you saying chikara, edge, ammo and IS at the same time?

If i’m using TE I always mix it in a to-go with a strongish cologne, not aftershave (doesn’t provide lasting cover). Cologne + TE @ 2:1 or 3:1 depending, then you can do like 4 sprays and have it equal to 2 sprays of TE. Seems to negate the smell a fair bit, I noticed when I use TE and try to layer it with cologne I still end up smelling horrible after a couple of hours. Mixing doesn’t seem anywhere near as bad.

Almost forgot, most blatant hits I’ve got from a single product are defiantly from TE, then maybe AMMO coming in a little way behind.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/89 "2011-01-21T09:25:20Z")

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> [@m0ses](#):
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> Are you saying chikara, edge, ammo and IS at the same time?
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> If i’m using TE I always mix it in a to-go with a strongish cologne, not aftershave (doesn’t provide lasting cover). Cologne + TE @ 2:1 or 3:1 depending, then you can do like 4 sprays and have it equal to 2 sprays of TE. Seems to negate the smell a fair bit, I noticed when I use TE and try to layer it with cologne I still end up smelling horrible after a couple of hours. Mixing doesn’t seem anywhere near as bad.
> 
> Almost forgot, most blatant hits I’ve got from a single product are defiantly from TE, then maybe AMMO coming in a little way behind.

Chikara 1 spray to front of neck, edge 2 dabs covered with cologne to back of neck in the morning.

1 spray ammo + 3 sprays IS all to front of neck in the evening.

Ammo is pretty consistent but sometimes does nothing for me.

Sometimes edge causes me to stone out just like when I drink alcohol, so I wash it off.

The problem with ammo is the hits are polite like GEGOGI says. There’s no lead in it, edge hits are better but it backfires on me half the time.

When I talk to women with ammo on they don’t seem to want to do more than just talk to me.

Then again I am over 40 my test levels are really low so I myself am none deficient, Yet I can’t wear more than a dab of edge without potential OD. Go figure…

My sweet spot with ammo is 1 spray. Any more than that and the reek is too much with the soapy smell. My SO also hates the smell of FF21.

dsouza

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**Author:** ![SomeoneElse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneelse/32/495_2.png) [@SomeoneElse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneElse)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/90 "2011-01-21T12:57:46Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> How do you cover the npa stink ? Does IS do the job?

Find a good cologne to cover the NPA odor. IS fragrance doesn’t last that long.

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**Author:** ![phissith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phissith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phissith)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/91 "2011-01-22T06:30:16Z")

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> [@dsouza](#):
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> How do you cover the npa stink ? Does IS do the job? I notice this is one of the most unique and true posts I’ve seen. Whenever I wear chikara/edge, then ammo and instant shine I’ve had women literally smiling and joking with me , asking me all kinds of personal questions as if they know me well and flirting with me and I do or say almost NOTHING but reply back! And they know I’m taken! Other days without this mix I try to use game plans, show interest, smile , dress nicely and I get not even a smile.
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> dsouza

Interesting test, did you do all of the above to the same lady? Or different woman? 😮

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/92 "2011-02-22T22:45:26Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> This is what I wear with IJ for my BEST results: [Simplistic seXXXy = Instant Jerk + A314 + Ishine + + +](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/simplistic-sexxxy-instant-jerk-a314-ishine/38047)
> 
> Enjoy 😛

I was little afraid to apply IJ, that’s why I never tested it much. But last days I have a feeling that it’s working the best for me over other mones.  
I had only one spray alone just a few times and it was great!

I was thinking exactly about the same combo! 😃  
I’m going to try this on Thursday.. I’ll let you know

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/93 "2011-02-22T23:55:39Z")

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> [@MetalHead](#):
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> **I was little afraid to apply IJ, that’s why I never tested it much.** But last days I have a feeling that it’s working the best for me over other mones.  
> I had only one spray alone just a few times and it was great!
> 
> I was thinking exactly about the same combo! 😃  
> I’m going to try this on Thursday.. I’ll let you know

Fraidy cat! Fraidy cat! Fraidy cat! 😃

Don’t fear the BEAST! Tame the BEAST! 😉

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/94 "2011-02-25T09:28:38Z")

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> [@MetalHead](#):
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> I was little afraid to apply IJ, that’s why I never tested it much. But last days I have a feeling that it’s working the best for me over other mones.  
> I had only one spray alone just a few times and it was great!
> 
> I was thinking exactly about the same combo! 😃  
> I’m going to try this on Thursday.. I’ll let you know

Very good results from yesterday! Really cool combo, I can only recommend. Two girls close to me and talking to me almost all the time. No problem with contacting any girl. Touching no problem (even sexual). Every time positive feedback. I was drinking a lot and was very rude (as someone recommended this tactic to me) 🙂 I would say many times I have crossed the border but no complain from their side, they liked it. One of the “close” girls was writing me a message that I am great and she wants to meet me again immediately after I got home from the event.

And by the way, strong respect from the guys with this! Even famous ones.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/95 "2011-02-25T11:24:16Z")

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> [@MetalHead](#):
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> Very good results from yesterday! Really cool combo, I can only recommend. Two girls close to me and talking to me almost all the time. No problem with contacting any girl. Touching no problem (even sexual). Every time positive feedback. I was drinking a lot and was very rude (as someone recommended this tactic to me) 🙂 I would say many times I have crossed the border but no complain from their side, they liked it. One of the “close” girls was writing me a message that I am great and she wants to meet me again immediately after I got home from the event.
> 
> And by the way, strong respect from the guys with this! Even famous ones.

Aaah, I actually forgot to mention really good example of what was happening. She poured by accident her drink on my forearm and I made her licking it from there 🙄

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/96 "2011-10-14T13:30:04Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> This is what I wear with IJ for my BEST results: [Simplistic seXXXy = Instant Jerk + A314 + Ishine + + +](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/simplistic-sexxxy-instant-jerk-a314-ishine/38047)
> 
> Enjoy 😛

whats your ratio ? do you use 5 drops or 2 drops how mnay shot of IJ and IS

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/97 "2011-10-21T15:26:40Z")

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IJ for sure. Girls come up and tell me I smell -so- good. Manfriends smell me and one guy said “You smell like fresh laundry and love.” Did it again a week later: “Damn, why do you smell so good?”

I’ve had one girl and one gay lean on my shoulder just to breathe in. Massive. I tend to be in alpha positions, running performances or have tons of social proof, and while I think I’m high in none production, I can handle even 4 sprays of tuth with no OD, and IJ just balances all the none perfectly. My age is 21, so who knows, maybe my none is on the decline.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/98 "2011-10-21T15:30:48Z")

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> [@delocc](#):
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> IJ for sure. Girls come up and tell me I smell -so- good. Manfriends smell me and one guy said “You smell like fresh laundry and love.” Did it again a week later: “Damn, why do you smell so good?”
> 
> I’ve had one girl and one gay lean on my shoulder just to breathe in. Massive. I tend to be in alpha positions, running performances or have tons of social proof, and while I think I’m high in none production, I can handle even 4 sprays of tuth with no OD, and IJ just balances all the none perfectly. My age is 21, so who knows, maybe my none is on the decline.

If I may … How old are you, D?

How much of IJ do you normally wear, your application points, and are you using a TO-GO or full-size bottle?

Thanks!

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/99 "2011-10-21T15:51:50Z")

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> [@M&M](#):
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> If I may … How old are you, D?
> 
> How much of IJ do you normally wear, your application points, and are you using a TO-GO or full-size bottle?
> 
> Thanks!

You may! Togo, 21, Caucasian, I generally apply to wrists, and I generally wear 2 sprays 1x IJ.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-product-have-you-got-your-most-obvious-hits-off-of/189852/100 "2011-11-01T22:06:01Z")

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AMMO+IH for me. Girls are comfortable talking about sex, and then you will be banging uglies (is that how they say it? HAHAHAHA) in no time.

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