# Which Putatives Produce Obvious Results?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 30, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507 "2009-04-30T04:38:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/1 "2009-04-30T04:38:57Z")

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It sounds like I might be getting reporter status soon, so I will of course be buying a few putatives to test out and report on.

Can somebody experienced with the putative series please recommend a few ones to me which have the most obvious results?

I’m not great at reading people’s subtle reactions, it took me about two months of daily use to really understand A314. So, I’d like to stay away from the putatives that produce the really subtle results.

I’m looking specifically for ones that are good daily social wear ones, and ones that are good for long-term relationships, but not particularly sexual.

Many thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![matthie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@matthie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matthie)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/2 "2009-04-30T05:53:12Z")

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but… but… they’re putatives!! we can’t tell you what they do, it’ll skew the results! 😛

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/3 "2009-04-30T05:57:03Z")

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> [@matthie](#):
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> but… but… they’re putatives!! we can’t tell you what they do, it’ll skew the results! 😛

I didn’t say you have to tell me what they do! Just recommend a couple to me!

For example, “You should definitely try p3.141592, it’s great.” Or, “p{1, i, j, k, l, il, jl, kl} is great, and smells like bacon, which is a huge plus.”

See?

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/4 "2009-04-30T06:09:49Z")

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look for the ones with no reports.

Start from there. Don’t report on something that has been reported on, be unique (if) you get reporter status.

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/5 "2009-04-30T06:30:29Z")

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> [@djandarial](#):
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> look for the ones with no reports.
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> Start from there. Don’t report on something that has been reported on, be unique (if) you get reporter status.

I guess I’ll try that. I suppose if I just can’t get any results (or, more likely, aren’t seeing them, even if they’re really obvious), I can always return them.

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/6 "2009-04-30T06:36:05Z")

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Alright then.

Which putatives are unreported on. Anybody?

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**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/7 "2009-04-30T07:29:48Z")

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how about this, the best from both worlds.

[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) is very very very promising. except no one figured out until recently that it works best in super low doses (estimated around 1-3mcg, thus meaning everyone OD’d on it continuously and just thought it was a dud). there are very few tests on this one, so if you have to pick one, you might have fun with this one

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/8 "2009-04-30T07:33:33Z")

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> [@perronec](#):
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> how about this, the best from both worlds.
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> P75 is very very very promising. except no one figured out until recently that it works best in super low doses (estimated around 1-3mcg, thus meaning everyone OD’d on it continuously and just thought it was a dud). there are very few tests on this one, so if you have to pick one, you might have fun with this one

Awesome, that’s going on the list. I also like that it works in low doses, less $$$ that way.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/9 "2009-04-30T14:18:52Z")

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the most reported on basic three that have substantiated good times in a bottle are [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), P93, and P83

Putatives are so intriguing to me, as they are artificial. Yet so close to the real thing.

EDIT: Another idea may be to find one that only has a few positive reports. Something along the lines of an effect you desire, with a need for more reports.

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/10 "2009-04-30T14:37:00Z")

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> [@Ball.Saxbury](#):
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> I guess I’ll try that. I suppose if I just can’t get any results (or, more likely, aren’t seeing them, even if they’re really obvious), I can always return them.

You cannot return putatives.

The whole point of getting reporter status and getting putative is to explore the unknown and give valuable info to help with research.

Truth is it is very hard to notice putatives by themselves majority are very subtle and it takes good experience to see them and get dosages right.

It is better to start with MX series and in time go with P series

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-produce-obvious-results/28507/11 "2009-04-30T17:46:04Z")

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> [@denec](#):
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> You cannot return putatives.
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> The whole point of getting reporter status and getting putative is to explore the unknown and give valuable info to help with research.
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> Truth is it is very hard to notice putatives by themselves majority are very subtle and it takes good experience to see them and get dosages right.
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> It is better to start with MX series and in time go with P series

You are correct - I am not sure why I thought that the putatives can be returned. Anyway, the MX’s are so expensive. That’s my motivation for wanting the putatives.

Considerations, considerations. I’ll have to think about it.
