# Which putatives to try alongside instant honesty, turn up the heat, MX281 and MX280? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 4, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837 "2008-09-04T18:50:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/1 "2008-09-04T18:50:06Z")
hi all, hows it going? i am about to make my second purchase and need a bit of advice. i have fullsize instant honesty and turn up the heat, togo mx281 and mx280. i am about to buy togo instant female magic, openness and shine. only getting togo’s to see which ones are best for my body chemisty and the products i have already got. because im only getting togo’s i have got a bit of cash left and would like to try out a putative, has anyone got any suggestions as which one or ones to try. thanks and all the best to all. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/2 "2008-09-04T22:55:46Z")
P74 is pretty highly recommended, it’s got a cool vibe that’s not overpowering to it. Great for male bonding, standing out amongst the crowd, etc. Watch out for burn out from wearing toooo much. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is another sexual molecule, somewhat similar to none, but with less aggression and less chance of ODing. Particularly useful in small doses for adding a little bit of a spice to other mixes. P79 works to amplify certain aspects of your mix. I’d suggest getting nothing higher than a 12.5 mcg bottle. You can always spray on more to get more, but unless you’re mixing it’s hard to get lower. I’m not a pro by any means, but I’ve personally had some good success by adding p74 or p83 to mixes. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/3 "2008-09-06T21:59:59Z")
excellent, thanks for that, much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/4 "2008-09-06T22:03:15Z")
Martyk’s suggestions are good - those are putatives with pretty solid reporting and results … ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/5 "2008-09-06T22:17:35Z")
> [@](#): > > P83 - Particularly useful in small doses for adding a little bit of a spice to other mixes. hi, what kind of dose are you talking about? I use about about 6-10 sprays from a 5mcg bottle and find that it can be a _little_ to overbearing buffering the other products in the mix a bit too much. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/6 "2008-09-06T22:20:27Z")
if [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is similar to none… would it be bad using it with tuth? Could a small ammount of both be beneficial? Or woul P74 and TUTH with some social buffers be more beneficial for that “I’m the guy you want to have sex with” vibe HAHA ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/7 "2008-09-06T22:22:32Z")
I’m going to try the p83 turn up the heat combo tommorow. There was talk of androtics sellinga new turn up the heat with p83 in it a while ago so I think it works, wonder what ratio though. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/8 "2008-09-06T22:25:11Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > I’m going to try the p83 turn up the heat combo tommorow. There was talk of Androtics sellinga new turn up the heat with p83 in it a while ago so I think it works, wonder what ratio though. If you can - pm me the link of your reprt thread or PM me your report… I’d be very insterested to know as im hoping to place another order soon. I’d love to get my hands on some dirty, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), p83, and something for my wife heh ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/9 "2008-09-07T00:23:56Z")
P83 and Androstenone are a good combo as well as [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and None. I would start with a 50/50 mix and alter it slightly up and down until you find the best mix for you. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/10 "2008-09-07T13:55:41Z")
I’ll try 50/50 tonight. The max amount of none I use is 5mcg whereas I normally use about 40mcg of p83 so I’ll have to really decrease my dosage of p83 then. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-putatives-to-try-alongside-instant-honesty-turn-up-the-heat-mx281-and-mx280/18837/11 "2008-09-07T15:45:47Z")
No, go ahead and wear the higher amount of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) if that’s what you’ve found to be your sweet spot. I didn’t really take into account any age difference and that younger users naturally produce more None. And in thinking about it, the ICM 0.25.1a and 1b mix that I’ve found to work best for me is very heavy on P83. I have never worn just P83 and None, so I guess I was trying to stay on the conservative side with the advice.