# Which soaps wash off pheromones? Nioxin and Paul Mitchell shampoo suggested

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 7, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931 "2007-02-07T02:53:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![scott99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scott99](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scott99)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/1 "2007-02-07T02:53:52Z")

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I’v been reading on his forum that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) seem to stay wherever you spray them, even if you try to wash it off with soap and water. Just wondering what you guys and gals use to wash it off. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/2 "2007-02-07T03:08:12Z")

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Nioxin shampoo for your hair (plus you won’t go bald! hehe). I have a paul mitchell system

paul mitchell  
Botanical prep shampoo  
botanical hydrating shampoo  
botanical body-building rinse

It pulls impurities out of your hair (chlorine, dht, pheromones, ect.)

As for your skin. Who knows… If your worried about build up just scrub that area thoroughly and skip a day or more of phero aplication.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/3 "2007-02-07T03:45:57Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
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> botanical body-building rinse

Toil do you think if I use that on my arms I can stop weight lifting?

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/4 "2007-02-07T03:50:35Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
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> Toil do you think if I use that on my arms I can stop weight lifting?

What?!?!?!? BRILLIANT!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/5 "2007-02-07T04:04:06Z")

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I actually use one of those scrubby things tied to the stick. They sell them at Wally World (Wal Mart). It’s a good idea to use something corse that helps remove any dead skin cells. Try to soap and rinse twice and use some elbow grease. Please don’t rip your skin off though, that might hurt.

I’m not sure how long the pheromones stay with you, but I believe they may stay for at least a day or two. Especially with the results I have been getting.

I’m wondering if also something like baby powder or lotion would affect the application point. I always use powder, but I’m sure some people use lotion. I assume with powder it wouldn’t be as much of a problem as with lotion, unless of course it prevents your skin from absorbing it.

Would anybody know?

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**Author:** ![turrgon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@turrgon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/turrgon)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/6 "2007-02-07T04:57:05Z")

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id be really surprised if soap and water didnt at least reduce the chemicals a significant amount. the only thing water alone doesnt dissolve are non-polar molecules and thats what soap is for. if it really leeches into your skin exfoliating might help too.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/7 "2007-02-07T04:59:48Z")

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Facial cleanser might be the best idea for application points as it is designed to exfoliate and clean.

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**Author:** ![turrgon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@turrgon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/turrgon)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/8 "2007-02-07T05:01:09Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
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> Facial cleanser might be the best idea for application points as it is designed to exfoliate and clean.

… and remove built-up oil.

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**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/9 "2007-02-07T05:05:46Z")

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try those stridex pads… those may work… 😃

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/10 "2007-02-07T07:39:03Z")

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15 minutes in the sauna does the trick for me…followed by hot shower, and a hard scrub down with a bath sponge.

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/11 "2007-02-07T10:03:30Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> 15 minutes in the sauna does the trick for me…followed by hot shower, and a hard scrub down with a bath sponge.

Perfect! I’d rather have a steam or sauna anyway, heh!

MHarris once commented that Nioxin or other “polysorbate based hair cleaners” (also “other polyscorbate based hair conditioners”) will work to remove sticky pheros.

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> Anything that contains polysorbates is proven to very effective at moving hormonal and pheromonal traces

But he also cautions about disturbing your natural bacterial culture on your skin with too much soap, and advocates rinsing, except for spot cleaning with Nioxin/etc.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/12 "2007-02-10T22:34:54Z")

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> [@malacide](#):
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> try those stridex pads… those may work… 😃

Or Brillo pads…

😛

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/13 "2009-03-10T20:31:58Z")

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This is a good discussion, I lately have been using dial on a scrub loofa “sp?” and then spot cleaning with witch hazel in the shower. I have been unable to detect buildup as of yet.

I also asked my good friend who is my acting wingman, to let me know if I ever “smell off” or too much.

I used 3shots shine neck / hair, 2 shots ammo wrists, and 1 shot jerk to chest.

I was unable to smell anything after a hot shower and a proper cleansing.

I use Tide for my clothes, but might switch to Oxiclean.

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**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/14 "2009-03-10T22:42:45Z")

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ivory soap is one of the purest soaps you can get and it gets the job done. when all else fails bust out the sand blaster.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-soaps-wash-off-pheromones-nioxin-and-paul-mitchell-shampoo-suggested/1931/15 "2009-03-11T02:58:54Z")

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sand blaster? ouch..

I wonder what steve and catlord use? someone ask them to comment on here.
