# Which to choose from..? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 21, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963 "2008-07-21T01:36:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShySeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@ShySeth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShySeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/1 "2008-07-21T01:36:19Z")
Hey First off, i’d like to say that I understand exactly how I am. Im the friend thats always there; the guy in the corner until spoken to. Shy, quite, caring. To be honest, i dont want to be this anymore. I’ve never had that edge or confidence to say the first thing, let alone approach any girls I’ve ever found attractive, but i want that to change and i need help here. I’ve looked into a lot of the different sprays and colognes, but nothing specific to my situation. As of the moment, there is a girl on my mind. I know how she is: shy, as well. quiet but fun on the indside. Shes a friend of a friend, so thats how i know her. troubling part: i dont know where to start looking into wich product to consider. I’ve always wanted to have the chance, the guts, to go up and talk to her. Even so, im that way where i can talk and open up when someone talks to me first, but ive never esperienced anyone walking up to me. Im not trying to sleep with her, its not anything vain like that; at least, to be more specific, sex isnt the first thing on my mind. I just want to be able to talk to her and have a bit more sex appeal, in general. maybe her talk to me and such. that kind of mutual attraction that inevitably leads to a relationship. Long term, btw lol and we’re both younger people. late teens so my question is which pheramone product i should consider first if i want to have a chance with this beautiful girl. if i ever want that eye contact, that little glimpse in their eyes of “hey.. whats your name?” what would be the best consideration? btw, i dont know how this helps, but i love talkative, “clingy”, touchy-feely, lovey girls =] ---
**Author:** ![zyron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zyron/32/1842_2.png) [@zyron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zyron)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/2 "2008-07-21T02:54:15Z")
Awesome to meet ya dude. I am the same way. “The Nice Guy”. never get anywhere and always waiting for the girl to fall into my lap. Well it never happens, if it does then it is rare. I have been playing that game all my life. I’m 36 and still havnt had a relationship or even a fling. So I know where you are coming from. I’m new to this myself. I tried a few togo bottles of spray a couple months ago. I’m telling you the first one I would buy is some instant shine. It will build your own confidence It makes you stand tall and feel like a million bucks. well may a thousand to be conservative. oh what the hell lets say a billion. lol My experience is it made me feel like John Travolta at the beggin of Saterday night fever. I was walking down the street feeling good. I eveen said hi to people as I walked. I never do that normally. Also when walkin g into stores. I notice girls saying hi to me with smiles. I usally sulk into the stores and none even looks at me. But with this confidence it makes you look different to others. Try it out, It is a awesome. I didnt realize the effect on oneself. But I tell you this stuff works. Since I’m new and just put in a order of more Intant Shine since I have been out for a couple months. I’m looking forward to getting my shine on again. Some of the others can tell you what other products which are good. I tried [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), Instant Openess and Ammo, But didnt really get any results becuase I did what not to do. Try them all on at once and become a mad scientist. I say try one at a time and see what works for you. It is all about be a cool headed scientist and do your own research. Theres alot of awesome people who have had some awesome experiences, check out the Men’s Journal section. Data4, Renny and alot of others have some great stories to share. peace and goodluck bro, Zyron ---
**Author:** ![GaDoomZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e274bd/32.png) [@GaDoomZ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GaDoomZ)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/3 "2008-07-21T03:15:33Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is great breaking the ice. Ammo gives the user a sense of confidence and the person’s barrier’s drop. I used to be exactly like you, but I changed it up, I started to work out and get my body into shape. Now a spray of ammo and im usually very easy going and the women are too. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) are also great for breaking the ice, but I don’t have much personal information on them. Openness tends to break down the barrier and make people more approachable and Honesty will make people feeling like they can trust you. If you do decide to get [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) though, I’d go with the 2x, the results of my [instant openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) are nil (i have the regular) ---
**Author:** ![GaDoomZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e274bd/32.png) [@GaDoomZ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GaDoomZ)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/4 "2008-07-21T03:18:53Z")
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty are also great for breaking the ice, but I don’t have much personal information on them. Openness tends to break down the barrier and make people more approachable and Honesty will make people feeling like they can trust you. If you do decide to get Instant Openness though, I’d go with the 2x, the results of my instant openness are nil (i have the regular) ---
**Author:** ![zyron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zyron/32/1842_2.png) [@zyron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zyron)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/5 "2008-07-21T03:33:27Z")
Darn I typed a great reply but it got deleted, well I will try to do it again. It is awesome to meet you Shy, I have the same challanges as you. I’m new to the game also. I have tried a few back a couple month ago. some togo bottles. What Gadoom said is awesome. I also recommend [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). It will help your own confidence as well as effect the ones around you. I myself have felt like a million bucks. But it does effect oneself different depending on your chemistry. I say instant shine is a must. 🙂 great stuff. “Thanks Androtics and all the testers out there” lol 🙂 I just put in a order for a full bottle today. Can’t wait. 🙂 Welcome to the world of Pheros dude and look forward to hearing your own experiments. peace , Zyron ---
**Author:** ![jayzfelon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@jayzfelon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzfelon)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/6 "2008-07-21T04:11:07Z")
ammo and instant honesty would help you. But both of you are shy [pheromones](https://a314.com/) might help but if she is really shy she might not express herself to you. I think you need to step and initiate the converstaion with her. I am like you before but I realized that if I don’t say what I feel its not gonna help and I’ll be just that guy keeping to myself. You need to take the first step and overcome this. Your not gonna lose anything. If she denies you its not like u had her before but if she accepts you then you now have someone you didnt have before. ---
**Author:** ![ShySeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@ShySeth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShySeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/7 "2008-07-21T04:49:21Z")
the thing is, understanding more and more of these products, im getting a better feeling of what “is” and “isnt”, and “could” and “will”, as well as “can” and “can not”. theres so may variances. this is the best choice so far; this is my inturpretation: A314 + instant female magic + instant openness (2x) + instant honesty 1:2:2:1 ratio (alpha/warmth/protection ; excitment/relaxation/safeness; comfort/trust; openness) all without reguards to any kind of strong sexuality, which is exactly what i want to try to stay away from. I also understand we’re both shy, and that does affect a lot of things. Im going to make the first move; the only thing im concerned with is getting that first boost in know i have that slight edge, to comfort myself and have that much more confidance in initiating anything. in understanding that i have these pheroms to negotiate small advantages into what I already have, I gain more confidence in doing what needs to be done to intiate contact. case and point. I think I know what i want 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/8 "2008-07-21T15:19:33Z")
^^^^ Add 2 sprays of Instant Shine - make sure the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is applied to the back of your neck I suggest this because IFM can cause a little depressive tendencies in men… Instant Shine tends to make you feel “shinier” - I.E. cancel out the negative effect of the IFM while still getting the boost in comfort for the girl… and it can’t hurt making her feel better when she is around you (Shine on her) ---
**Author:** ![ShySeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@ShySeth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShySeth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/which-to-choose-from/15963/9 "2008-07-22T01:37:33Z")
awesome! thanks my first official order, for now (blah.. i hate bills) is the ammo. im going to see what this can do, first.