# Who is actually affected? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 15, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152 "2006-12-15T03:47:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/1 "2006-12-15T03:47:17Z")
Alright, ive been a little curious, Im a senior at highschool and ive been testing things like Instant Honesty, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine… practically all the to-go bottles and A314. I havent really seen much of a difference except that A314 Makes me feel more confident. IE: I havent seen Instant Openness (I tried on approximately 8 sprays) at a rehersal or in class generally. There wasnt that chatty vibe around. Ive tried instant shine and all i notice is that it smells really really good and i cant really tell if my mood is lifted or anything. I havent really seen many IOI’s although ive been looking for them. So the question at hand is, What is the age group that is usually affected? I barely see any change with associates in HS. Could the fact that they have known me for such a long time conflict with my research? I cant test out MX177 if i dont see any responses. I plan on going to the mall with a pilot to see if there are any unusual reactions, but as far as i know there seems to be very little change in how people treat you in HS, other than saying when they are near you, you always smell good… well i get that compliment all the time XD One time ive applied IFM, IS, IH, and A314 in a bathroom stall. When i walked into class people said i smelled REALLY REALLY good. Other than that i havent really seen much of a response. Btw. People said i smell like cilantro… Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I am so confused. On a happy note, i recieved my first acceptence letter to a college. I AM PUMPED! Thanks for the replies ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/2 "2006-12-15T04:33:11Z")
Almost everyone is a responder to one or more molecules (and you used many!), whether you notice or not. Since it’s not possible to mind read, for some men, all of the pheromone products in the world won’t make them understand social dynamics without studying body language. We’ll be making free educational on this topic available soon for your aid. There are also semi-good books on the topic. (nothing great, however; a spectacular body language book has yet to be written, unfortunately!) Until then, you may wish to partner with a woman who’s good at social commentary in real life situations. She can tell you what’s happening, especially if you use the To Go versions of products with which you can the social milieu midstream. PS – Time helps, too. After a month or so, even the most resistant people tend to get the hang of what happens with and without pheromones. It can take a musician years to develop his ear, his awareness of notes and nuances. Painters and photographers, too, take years to develop their eye. In the same way, it can take a little while to develop your social awareness. Pheromones don’t make you a social expert overnight. Time, the study of body language, and partnering with someone more socially aware than you (usually a woman, many of which are born with more social awareness than we’ll ever have) help more than anything. P.P.S. Embarassingly, it probably took me more than 3 months in the 90’s to obtain a functional understanding of what Realm by Erox was doing. That was despite having studied body language; I was simply less socially aware in a functional sense than most people. It took even longer to connect my own negative responses to one of the molecules they were using (androstadienone). What’s funny, is that I was probably attributing most of the positive effects to my natural “charisma” for awhile. As humans, we tend to attribute all positives to ourselves, and negatives to outside factors. This is important to consider when evaluating pheromones. You may want to _force a negative result_ by using too much androstenone or another potentially hostile molecule first. Out of what you mentioned, you can cause a seriously negative reaction in many men with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). The effects of that are extremely sexually dimorphic; i.e., it affects men and women in a completely different manner. It’s reported to be almost euphoric for women, while it’s dysphoric for me and many other men. 5 sprays of that to hot areas on your body, and you should be able to sullen a group of men quite easily. Do you have any androstenone based products? (Turn Up The Heat, Instant Jerk, Raw Power, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/3 "2006-12-15T05:06:05Z")
Arizona. Which part of Arizona are you in? If you’re in the south, did you get the hot weather additives? Spray formulations aren’t ideal for hot weather and low humidity. ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/4 "2006-12-15T05:12:54Z")
Where did you get Arizona? I live in the North East. New Jersey to be more specific. I use both the spray formulations and the oil. The only Androstenone products i have are, i think, TUTH and IFM. So wait a minute, since i value the supposed effects of IFM, should i experiment and OD with TUTH? what would i be searching for in both men and women? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/5 "2006-12-15T05:22:03Z")
> [@BlazingAzn88](#): > > Where did you get Arizona? I live in the North East. New Jersey to be more specific. I use both the spray formulations and the oil. Blazin’ (as in hot) Azn (as in AriZoNa). It’s not an illogical jump. > [@](#): > > The only Androstenone products i have are, i think, Turn Up The Heat and Instant Female Magic. So wait a minute, since i value the supposed effects of IFM, should i experiment and OD with TUTH? what would i be searching for in both men and women? High doses of IFM make women feel great and men feel terrible. You don’t have to take my word for it with this molecule. Androstadienone is one of the most studied molecules, and you can look at many of these studies online. It’s euphoric to many women (not that I can experience that myself, but I’m taking women’s word for it here, as well as my own observations of women, and the studies done on it) and, to many men, it’s dysphoric (the opposite of a euphoric). [androstadienone - Google Scholar](http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=androstadienone) 3 or 4 sprays of TUTH on a young man should be far too sexually aggressive for your age group. You’ll probably notice male avoidance or aggression. Ovulating females will be most comfortable around you. The second highest group of people comfortable around you, will be people of either sex from naturally high androstenone races. Some African, Spanish. Asians will probably say that you stink, or not be able notice at all. Very light skinned and caucasians will tend to show avoidance or aggression. Not everyone reacts the same way to the the same stimulus, but there’s definitely patterns. ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/6 "2006-12-15T05:27:40Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Blazin’ (as in hot) Azn (as in AriZoNa). It’s not an illogical jump. I was leaning more towards Blazing Asian, but i guess it could be taken that way. Ok, i shall experiment tomorrow then. I will OD on IFM… which im almost out and see how people react just to that. If i wear cologne, will that skew my results? I will not use any others and ill report back after school. For now, i shall sleep. So according to what you state, pheremones should affect practically all age groups evenly. Am i correct? Thanks MHarris. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/7 "2006-12-15T05:41:27Z")
> [@BlazingAzn88](#): > > I was leaning more towards Blazing Asian, but i guess it could be taken that way. Ok, i shall experiment tomorrow then. I will OD on Instant Female Magic… which im almost out and see how people react just to that. If i wear cologne, will that skew my results? I will not use any others and ill report back after school. For now, i shall sleep. The easiest thing for you to do would be apply in the middle of a social interaction. Just excuse yourself to the bathroom for a moment, and apply. Whether you have the skills to fully see it or not, a change in the social milieu will occur. It’ll be far easier to see in the midst of ongoing social activity, than if you were to apply in the morning. You’ll have something tangible to compare against. Higher contrast that way. > [@](#): > > So according to what you state, pheremones should affect practically all age groups evenly. Am i correct? Yes, but differently. Youth psychologly is very different from geriatric! Think about art. There’s vastly different reactions, but most fit into certain categories of response. The simplest, most general categories being positive or negative responses. Different races don’t respond the same, either. If you’re Asian and most of your targets are Asian, you are in the unfortunate position of being exposed to some of the best trained people in the universe when it comes to hiding their internal feelings. We have a quite a few Asian users, however, and I’m sure they’ll advise you. > [@](#): > > Thanks MHarris. You are very welcome. The upcoming videos should help quite a bit, too. It just takes awhile to develop and finalize the content. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/8 "2006-12-15T06:17:41Z")
BTW, you (and all of our customers) are free to call us for up to a half an hour of social awareness training on the phone. We’ll eventually convert most of this to media (video, books, etc.), but right now, there’s no charge for this service for our customers. Since you’re in the US, you can even call our 800#, so the call itself is on our dime. We’ve been told that service is very valuable, and it would be worth every penny if we charged for this consulting service alone… so this should help you quite a bit. ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/9 "2006-12-15T20:02:30Z")
Ok, so i went to school today doing some observations and such. IFM seems to make women much more easy going and more attracted to oneself. During a concert, this girl didnt have to stand next to me… lets say she was seperated by at least two or so girls from me. She pushes them aside and makes sure she stand next to me so that she would be “in place.” FYI, we were TIGHTLY packed so i was touching things i shouldnt be touching… Ive had one girl ask why i didnt have a gf and ive had another girl that said “you smell so good. I want to fuck you so bad.” I wasnt sure if she was serious or not but she kept complimenting on how cute i looked and stuff like that (I was in a tux all day btw). There was also this one time where this girl… we’ve been having a little wedge between us and havent been speaking for a week, walked up to her best friend I was talking to and… i guess… wanted to re-establish our friendship. She didnt really directly talk to me but rather through her friend. Anyway, i didnt really experience any adverse effects from 5-6 sprays of IFM other than i was quieter and more tired than normal. Is that what most men experience? Another question that pops up is, Why do people smell you differently? One girl said I smelled like a pungent herb… specifically cilantro, while another girl said i smelled like god. I tested if it was IFM by spraying a bit on to my finger and making her smell it… it WAS IFM. The cologne I was using with IFM was Aqua Di Gio, so i dont know how that didnt over power IFM. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/10 "2006-12-16T02:06:38Z")
> [@BlazingAzn88](#): > > \ > One time ive applied Instant Female Magic, IS, Instant Honesty, and A314 in a bathroom stall. When i walked into class people said i smelled REALLY REALLY good. Other than that i havent really seen much of a response. > \ > [@](#): > > _ **“you smell so good. I want to fuck you so bad.”** _ I guess that offsets the “not much response” pretty squarely.😮😃 ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/11 "2006-12-16T06:28:57Z")
lol. Like i said. I wasn’t sure if she was serious. She did bring it up over and over again. On another note, I think ill experiment again at a concert tomorrow. Ill OD on some TUTH and see what happens at church. Maybe a little IS might be nice. Whats the most people usually use before they see the effects of ODing on TUTH? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 11:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/12 "2006-12-16T11:06:18Z")
> [@BlazingAzn88](#): > > lol. Like i said. I wasn’t sure if she was serious. She did bring it up over and over again. > > On another note, I think ill experiment again at a concert tomorrow. Ill OD on some Turn Up The Heat and see what happens at church. Maybe a little IS might be nice. Whats the most people usually use before they see the effects of ODing on TUTH? The dosage for OD varies greatly, but in any case, take some androstenol with you to counter the effects if you need to! ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/13 "2006-12-16T12:20:32Z")
> [@BlazingAzn88](#): > > lol. Like i said. I wasn’t sure if she was serious. She did bring it up over and over again. > > On another note, I think ill experiment again at a concert tomorrow. Ill OD on some Turn Up The Heat and see what happens at church. Maybe a little IS might be nice. Whats the most people usually use before they see the effects of ODing on TUTH? \ You’re planning to OD on TUTH _at church_? isn’t that tempting fate - and right before Christmas, too! Look out for the middle-aged (and older) women, then - they love that beast androstenone the best! ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/who-is-actually-affected/1152/14 "2006-12-16T14:47:23Z")
Dont worry guys, im not going to church for worship or anything. Im going to church because a concert i am performing at is being held there. Im just going to see how friends and women react to such a high amount. Same as how my director might act. Wish me luck