# Why do so many store putatives have no description? A call for an effects list

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**Created:** [November 8, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-do-so-many-store-putatives-have-no-description-a-call-for-an-effects-list/60464 "2013-11-08T09:46:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Provi1990](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/839c29/32.png) [@Provi1990](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Provi1990)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-do-so-many-store-putatives-have-no-description-a-call-for-an-effects-list/60464/1 "2013-11-08T09:46:16Z")

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Hello Everyone! Hope all is well with you. 😃

I was browsing the store here and noticed they have a LARGE number of putative sprays. It seemed to me that a lot had no review or description as to what they do. Is there a thread I’m missing or do they just not have descriptions yet? If anyone has any experiences with the putative sprays I think it would be cool to get a list going of the effects from each spray if there is not already one?

What are _YOUR_ thoughts? 🙂

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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-do-so-many-store-putatives-have-no-description-a-call-for-an-effects-list/60464/2 "2013-11-08T10:19:31Z")

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Putatives are exactly what the word says. Putative: generally considered or reputed to be.

Putatives have no specific known use. They are for advanced users to test individually without knowing what they might do so that accurate/non-influenced reports come back as to the effects. They are test mixes and compounds being sold for the end user to report the effects of for R&D of new product lines and I suspect in some cases just to see what a relatively unknown compound does.

That is why you do not see descriptions as to what they do.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-do-so-many-store-putatives-have-no-description-a-call-for-an-effects-list/60464/3 "2013-11-08T10:43:16Z")

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The reason for this is that Putatives and Experimones are experimental products and the knowledge of their effects is still developing. This is whay they are sold without claim or warranty.

To that end, it is really better not to list them because it defeats the object of testing and people get hung-up on their described (sometimes inaccurately) properties rather than how they work for them as individuals.

However, if you want some ideas, simply stick “Putative Guide” into search and you will find a couple of established threads and a database of reported effects. Its not official, not complete and some of the reports need to be taken with a big pinch of salt.

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-do-so-many-store-putatives-have-no-description-a-call-for-an-effects-list/60464/4 "2013-11-08T10:44:53Z")

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You’ve got a whole forum hear full of information about various putatives