# Why doesn't AD sell A1, and is it needed for good results?

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**Created:** [June 20, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-doesnt-ad-sell-a1-and-is-it-needed-for-good-results/39436 "2010-06-20T15:12:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-doesnt-ad-sell-a1-and-is-it-needed-for-good-results/39436/21 "2010-06-21T10:11:19Z")

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Conversion of A1 and Anol only occurs when coryneform bacteria are present in very high numbers. You need over a million of those little suckers on your body to truly cause a conversion This generally can only occur in the groin or pits area because they need a dark warm sweaty place to live. However if you wash daily and you use soap you wont have enough coryneform on your body to aid in conversion hence the need for [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/).

In the “olden days” humans were not at all hygienic as they are now in modern times. They did not bathe or wash for days other then to wash there face and hands. They did not wash there cloths after each use like we do now but used them again and again for repeated wear before washing them. Natural conversion occurred without people ever noticing. BO was to be expected and not paid attention to consciously like we do now. Now with the invention of the washer dryer, people showering daily, the inclusion of antibacterial soaps and deodorants, the amount of coryneform on the body has declined and generally people dont walk around smelling like BO. They do not convert pheromones nor do they emit them at the same rate they did back then.

While conversion can and does occur in a petri dish its less likely on the human body.

If your looking for conversion dont wash for a week or use it to the high bacteria areas like the pits and groin. Expect to smell rancid though.

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Myself and many other experienced users dont totally agree with the take on A-1. We tend to not go by what we are told by the dealers but by the researching and experiences of ourselves and others. Some lead some follow, its just the way of the world. A-1 is something we have all been around and used for years. Its the one and only scientifically proven pheromone. The rest are putatives or suspected to act as pheromones. This just means more scientific data is needed before they can come to a “official” conclusion.

That being said… **High amounts** of A-1 have been proven to cause depression in a small amount of men. The **misuse** of A-1 can cause depression in a small amount of men.

Its no different then any other pheromone in the sense that **misuse** of it can cause adverse effects.

To much TAA can cause sensory overload and crash.

To much anol can cause cloudy thinking and impair your motor skills

To much anone can cause aggression

I could go on and on. The key here is to not use “to much” . Now this may sound scary but let me remind you. To much of anything is not good. To much water can kill you. To much caffeine depletes the neurotransmitters. etc etc …

A-1 is no different. If depression was a problem then it would not have been approved for use in Dial Magnetic one of the biggest companies out there

While I understand and respect the position of Androtics in not selling it as a raw pheromone its my opinion it has more to do with the patent as they told us for 4 years before recent events and not because of the misuse. In IFM they have control of the amount used in the mix and it was not mixed with perfume but with herbs. However because Androtics is a research company and researching and making pheromone mixes and scents is there primary goal… A-1, because of the patent held by erox is not of value to them because they cant use it in a mix till 2012. Same go’s for EST which erox also holds the patent on and who teamed up with Dial to release Dial magnetic.

As I mentioned Dial is a huge company and shortly before they released there product Androtics pulled A-1 from the line up (could have been coincidence) anywho… in my opinion it was smart and respectful of the patent. It shows there dedication to following the guidelines and rules set forth by the industry and makes me feel even more confident in the quality of product here. There are other companies that do not pay attention and use A-1 in mixes with a scent. Its makes you wonder what other rules they are willing to break. I shop at some of these places but I am careful when I do. I get to know the company and who runs it.

There is no patent as a single molecule so as long as your not selling it and its for personal use your can use A-1 in you mixes.

A-1 can be found here and there. Love scent sells it but you have to dilute it correctly or you can experience that depression we are talking about.

You can get it in natural [attraction.com](http://attraction.com) products which is erox by the way.

There are a few others who use it that are good but like I mentioned they are breaking the patent. You have to make a personal decision on how you feel about that.

You can buy Dial magnetic at the store. Usually pharmacies and supermarkets carry it but you have to look around a little.

Whats it good for… Its been dubbed the “love pheromone” it increases the feeling of affection and ease. It can take the bitch out of women and it puts them at ease especially during times of PMS. It can increase a woman’s feeling of well being and make them more accommodating to you.

I didnt use IFM when they had it here much being a women but I have seen its power. If you use it do so with care as to not use to much. If it does bother you then discontinue use but I have only seen a handful of negative reports out of thousands of positive ones. No more then I have seen with any other molecule.

Tisha

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