# Why Good Girls Love Naughty Boys

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [April 16, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160 "2007-04-16T12:54:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/41 "2007-06-05T06:48:30Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> That’s true! IMO there’re no bad girls actually…only a lil bit “off track” sometimes and that’s normal. I have to agree with Phoenix…they are interesting!🙂

But I seriously believe (hope) that somewhere there are girls who are “not off track”, but interesting, passionate, creative, intelligent, …  
well that’s the type I’m seeking 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/42 "2007-06-05T07:09:41Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> But I seriously believe (hope) that somewhere there are girls who are “not off track”, but interesting, passionate, creative, intelligent, …  
> well that’s the type I’m seeking 🙂

Well, good luck to you, Phoenix! Hope you will find one soon.🙂

But sometimes we can’t expect others to be as how we want them to be. I tried once with my ex-wife before and I fail. Most of my female friends are kinda “off track” girls but I accept them as how they are and always treat them nice and with respect…otherwise how would we call ourselves ‘gentlemen’?🙂

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/43 "2007-06-05T07:21:24Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> Well, good luck to you, Phoenix! Hope you will find one soon.🙂
> 
> But sometimes we can’t expect others to be as how we want them to be. I tried once with my ex-wife before and I fail. Most of my female friends are kinda “off track” girls but I accept them as how they are and always treat them nice and with respect…otherwise how would we call ourselves ‘gentlemen’?🙂

thanks!

I know, I know. You also can’t change others. Only God or themselves can change themselves..  
Well I guess it depends by what you mean by “off track” after all.. what do you see as being off track, Mohammed?

Once I read in a dating book (not a very good one mind you) that women psychologically tend to be either mostly emotional or mostly physical or along these extremes. My preference would be for someone who can be both emotional and physical, besides being a spiritual person too which was not mentioned in this book..

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 8:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/44 "2007-06-05T08:14:16Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> thanks!
> 
> I know, I know. You also can’t change others. Only God or themselves can change themselves..  
> Well I guess it depends by what you mean by “off track” after all.. what do you see as being off track, Mohammed?
> 
> Once I read in a dating book (not a very good one mind you) that women psychologically tend to be either mostly emotional or mostly physical or along these extremes. My preference would be for someone who can be both emotional and physical, besides being a spiritual person too which was not mentioned in this book..

Well, the term varies greatly from the Western and Eastern perceptions. Factors such as cultures, up bringings, religions (especially Islam which you already know that observes strict rules in life), etc, play an important role in the Eastern society. What I see as “off track” might not be as it is to you due to the above factors and being a Muslim, I have to explain it in the perspective of my religion and culture. If I were to answer your question in details, I’m “afraid” that this thread will turn into a religion or cultural debate which I do not intend to do so.🙂

Anyway, I’m a moderate person and always ‘open’ to listen to other point of views. It’s nice to have you on board, Phoenix.🙂 May God bless you always.

Mohammad 🙂

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/45 "2007-06-05T08:19:20Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> If I were to answer your question in details, I’m “afraid” that this thread will turn into a religion or cultural debate which I do not intend to do so.🙂
> 
> Anyway, I’m a moderate person and always ‘open’ to listen to other point of views. It’s nice to have you on board, Phoenix.🙂 May God bless you always.
> 
> Mohammad 🙂

Ok, no problem.. I’m a moderate person who is ‘open’ to listen too. Nice to have you on board too! God bless you too.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 8:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/46 "2007-06-05T08:31:11Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> Ok, no problem.. I’m a moderate person who is ‘open’ to listen too. Nice to have you on board too! God bless you too.

Thanks, Phoenix! You’re most welcome!🙂

So, in which club you belong to? The Naughty Boys??😛 😃

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/47 "2007-06-05T08:36:48Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> Thanks, Phoenix! You’re most welcome!🙂
> 
> So, in which club you belong to? The Naughty Boys??😛 😃

Depends on what one means by naughty boy..

Shy boy - nope. Bad/evil boy - nope. Interesting boy - yes.  
Sexy boy - yes. Trustworthy boy -yes. Good boy - yes.  
Will I kiss a woman when the right time comes - yes 😃  
Perhaps we should have a new club Super-[Pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) Boys!

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**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 11:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/48 "2007-06-05T11:27:06Z")

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Personally I think I am becoming more flirtatious and a naughty because of those bad girls I have dealt with.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/49 "2007-06-05T12:07:13Z")

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> [@charles198026](#):
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> Personally I think I am becoming more flirtatious and a naughty because of those bad girls I have dealt with.

I flirt with girls too…😃

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/50 "2007-06-06T00:28:23Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> I flirt with girls too…😃

Boys just wanna have fun too!😃

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**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/51 "2007-06-06T04:42:30Z")

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Boys just wanna have fun too!

[![](https://pheromonetalk.com/lounge/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) ](https://pheromonetalk.com/lounge/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)

lol.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/52 "2007-06-10T16:19:32Z")

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I would write  
“Why Interesting Girls Love Interesting Boys” 😃  
(both have good morals though)

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**Author:** ![unsaneyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@unsaneyo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unsaneyo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/53 "2007-06-10T16:25:06Z")

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thats a pretty cool piece of writing…now if it were only true 😃

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/54 "2007-06-10T16:36:00Z")

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> [@unsaneyo](#):
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> thats a pretty cool piece of writing…now if it were only true 😃

I think I’m quite interesting and a dull person doesn’t interest me (doesn’t sustain my interest, sorry!)… that’s why I would say an interesting person loves an interesting person!

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/55 "2007-06-10T23:41:42Z")

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As tacitus was saying…

> [@Where to go to meet women?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-go-to-meet-women/479/39):
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> The sad, bad fact of life is that the great majority of hu-chimps (that’s US, dearie) are, well… gloriously mired up to our necks in a lot of dysfunctional poo… annnnnd when boy chimp meets girl chimp the dumbest, ,most primitive, tape playing-est, reactive, reflexive parts of our minds are activated… slight_smile which is why it is “relationships” that bring out the deeply established patterns in us, for better, worse, or boring as hell… In my personal history of relating and observing, th…

The sad, bad fact of life is that the great majority of hu-chimps (that’s US, dearie) are, well… gloriously mired up to our necks in a lot of dysfunctional poo… annnnnd when boy chimp meets girl chimp the dumbest, ,most primitive, tape playing-est, reactive, reflexive parts of our minds are activated… which is why it is “relationships” that bring out the deeply established patterns in us, for better, worse, or boring as hell…

In my personal history of relating and observing, this basic point keeps returning to my attention… p**eople feel powerful unconscious attractions to other people who function at the same level of automaticity (or cruise control, or auto-pilot, if you prefer)…**

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/56 "2007-06-11T06:55:25Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> In my personal history of relating and observing, this basic point keeps returning to my attention… p**eople feel powerful unconscious attractions to other people who function at the same level of automaticity (or cruise control, or auto-pilot, if you prefer)…**

What is it about those of us who have woken up from auto-pilot, then?  
Those of us who are more conscious than others.. I wonder, how do we go detecting them!

That would be great.

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**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/57 "2007-06-23T20:36:08Z")

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> [@Phoenix](#):
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> I found this and was reminded of this thread.  
> I thought this about it: the guy who is a “good tree” is a balanced guy, interesting, emotionally mature, not boring, not a pushover ; while the guy who is a “bad tree” is emotionally immature, perhaps very boring, perhaps a pushover or perhaps a jerk.
> 
> Matthew 7:15

Cool take on that verse

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/58 "2007-06-23T21:48:58Z")

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> [@charles198026](#):
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> Cool take on that verse

Thanks! Glad you liked it

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2007, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/59 "2007-06-24T01:38:22Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> As tacitus was saying…
> 
> [Where to go to meet women? - #39 by tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/where-to-go-to-meet-women/479/39)
> 
> The sad, bad fact of life is that the great majority of hu-chimps (that’s US, dearie) are, well… gloriously mired up to our necks in a lot of dysfunctional poo… annnnnd when boy chimp meets girl chimp the dumbest, ,most primitive, tape playing-est, reactive, reflexive parts of our minds are activated… which is why it is “relationships” that bring out the deeply established patterns in us, for better, worse, or boring as hell…
> 
> In my personal history of relating and observing, this basic point keeps returning to my attention… p**eople feel powerful unconscious attractions to other people who function at the same level of automaticity (or cruise control, or auto-pilot, if you prefer)…**

There is an element of truth to this, and an element of falsehood.

The universe is not so simple as to be boring. Sometimes the spark of enlightenment shines through the eyes of those most deeply enmeshed in illusion. If the perceptions are closed to them those twinkles and intimate communications slip by unnoticed.

> [@Phoenix](#):
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> What is it about those of us who have woken up from auto-pilot, then?  
> Those of us who are more conscious than others.. I wonder, how do we go detecting them!
> 
> That would be great.

We are all pretending not to have woken up, or we wouldn’t be here!

😉

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2007, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-good-girls-love-naughty-boys/3160/60 "2007-06-24T06:45:51Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> We are all pretending not to have woken up, or we wouldn’t be here!
> 
> 😉

You really think so? I think many people do things in an automatic fashion though…  
oh you are referring to us forum members as ‘we’, right?

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