# Why Instant Female Magic was pulled: SteveO cites women using it to depress men **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [May 9, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451 "2010-05-09T08:24:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ptroa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@ptroa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ptroa)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/1 "2010-05-09T08:24:29Z")
while browsing on AD earlier, one of the side ads was for ifm. I asked stevo why it had vanished and he had told me some women had been using it in massive doses to depress men around them. I don’t care! That was the most amazing phero product I’ve used. When I first started using these products just over a year ago, I went hog wild spraying way too much of everything with mixed results. I began to narrow them down to see which was the result I wanted. I found it in ifm where I had handfuls of women who wanted to get physically close to me, 3 women brushed their breasts against me hard as they walked past me. I want that result again. I have tried many wo this result a lot of other wonderful results but I want something that will add the magic of physical contact. I’m not talking about sexual contact but just the subtle touch of my arms and such ---
**Author:** ![CoachK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CoachK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoachK)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/2 "2010-05-11T16:43:25Z")
LOL, Steve was pulling your chain as he is known to do on the boards. IFM is discontinued because the primary mone is A-1 and there is a patent out on it. You can buy A-1 from love scent… there is a post somewhere on it. As for the rest of the ingredients, its been asked many many times on the board and doesnt look like Androtics is going to give up the secret. Sorry to burst your bubble. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/3 "2010-05-11T17:40:33Z")
> [@CoachK](#): > > LOL, Steve was pulling your chain as he is known to do on the boards. IFM is discontinued because the primary mone is A-1 and there is a patent out on it. You can buy A-1 from love scent… there is a post somewhere on it. As for the rest of the ingredients, its been asked many many times on the board and doesnt look like Androtics is going to give up the secret. Sorry to burst your bubble. Actually, sorry to burst your bubble but you’re incorrect: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/instant-female-magic-men-31856-3.html#post267713` (link broken) We discontinued its sale based solely on some women using it in massive quantities to cause depression in men. It had nothing at all to do with the patent. ---
**Author:** ![CoachK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CoachK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoachK)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/4 "2010-05-11T18:39:13Z")
Wow, I uhh didnt know that. Well now I know… Oh well. Sorry for the misinformation. Steve, Ive been reading many of your posts doing some research and have little question for you? MX304 is P83 and [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) mix right? Just wondering if you had success with that. It seems like a good fit but didnt get great reviews. None makes my GF cranky, so I was very intrigued with a possible none replacement. I was thinking about making a mix and switching the b-nol to anol.. well, cuz she responds very well to anol, not so much bnol. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/5 "2010-05-11T18:41:10Z")
What was it. It said the link wasn’t active. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/6 "2010-05-11T19:17:12Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > What was it. It said the link wasn’t active. The link works now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/7 "2010-05-11T19:19:10Z")
> [@CoachK](#): > > Wow, I uhh didnt know that. Well now I know… Oh well. Sorry for the misinformation. > Steve, Ive been reading many of your posts doing some research and have little question for you? MX304 is P83 and P93 mix right? Just wondering if you had success with that. It seems like a good fit but didnt get great reviews. None makes my GF cranky, so I was very intrigued with a possible none replacement. I was thinking about making a mix and switching the b-nol to anol.. well, cuz she responds very well to anol, not so much bnol. Good times 🙂. It was an honest mistake. P83 is pretty good stuff. I made the ICM versions with none and both nols MX301 is none and Bnol and MX302 is none with Anol I also included recipes of P83 with anol and Bnol. Try searching for [Pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) Universe. Should bring up the recipes. ---
**Author:** ![CoachK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@CoachK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoachK)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-instant-female-magic-was-pulled-steveo-cites-women-using-it-to-depress-men/38451/8 "2010-05-11T20:06:20Z")
Thanks Steve, always like reading your posts and insights. My 70 and 90 test pack is soon to arrive so Ill be doing some experiments. Once I Get a good baseline off how they affect me Ill start playing around with my own mixes. I have been sampling the commercial line and have a good feel for them now. I would post but thats just repetitive as I pretty much get the same effects as everyone else. Thanks for the insights.