# Why is MX301 sexual more arousal as ICM homemade? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 15, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762 "2010-09-15T13:01:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/1 "2010-09-15T13:01:02Z")
I’m a big fan of my home made ICM (MX301), but I see two differences between them. First, MX301 hits faster in the sexual way and the reaction are more obvious, extreme hair play and cheeks suffused with blushes, a really flash. ICM homemade is sexual more subtly and needs longer to work. But, ICM is more social, male reacts better on ICM as MX301… How can it be? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/2 "2010-09-15T13:09:03Z")
either slower diffusion, maybe you used some DPG instead of PA somewhere. Or option two, your measurements might be off somewhere. Possibly less None and/or more TAC and/or [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). Otherwise no clue. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/3 "2010-09-15T13:38:52Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > either slower diffusion, maybe you used some DPG instead of PA somewhere. > Or option two, your measurements might be off somewhere. Possibly less None and/or more TAC and/or P74. Otherwise no clue. No, its exact the same ratio and PA, but thanks… ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/4 "2010-09-15T15:06:11Z")
I absolutely noticed the same … with the homebrew i need more sprays like with the 301 from the store and it was all in neroli or grape ! Had best reactions from my Father in Law from ICM .. Pago ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/5 "2010-09-15T15:53:48Z")
I can get away with 3 sprays of my homebrew but over two is overkill with the original.. Same problem absolutely certain my ratios where right. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/6 "2010-09-15T17:02:24Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > I can get away with 3 sprays of my homebrew but over two is overkill with the original.. Same problem absolutely certain my ratios where right. Weird. A bit off topic here but I have been contemplating this in other ways. Look at the the formula of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for example. Anyone smart/diligent enough can see that its actually cheaper to make your own Ammunition with experimones bought from AD. If you buy each of the 3 components (alpha androstenol, androsterone, androstenone) at 7.5 mcgs per spray in a 30 mL bottle (with 20 percent fragrance strength) and mix them together you’ll have roughly 90 mL’s of Ammo for 72 dollars. Thats less than half of what 3 bottles of Ammo would normally cost. Obviously this is only possible being a reporting user but still its a huge save and if you report frequently enough you’ll have RU in no time. Ammo being the trademark product of androtics overall would make you wonder why the ratios would be known and so accessible. I’d love to see if someone could see a difference between a Homemade FF21 Ammo and The actual FF21 Ammo processed and bottled by AD themselves. Since the ratios are so basic as well as equal almost any person here with or without experience with mixing could whip this up. Empty Ammo bottle to put the Homemade in so as not to placebo either one. On the other hand it could go absolutely the other way and we could say that each batch of putatives can vary to a certain degree and that the potency can be inconsistent enough to throw off results compared to the to-go bottle batch. That does seem a little inconclusive at best though. To me I feel theres more to it than what the formula states. That may seem preposterous to some but all of you who replied have experienced the same thing and MX301 isn’t a difficult thing to do homemade since yet again its almost a equal ratio formula not a oh we need .625 of this 12.5 of that and .125 of this and 4.75 of this per spray formula. When you crunch numbers like that our estimates when we composite are always going to be off no matter how stringent and careful we are. But with MX301/302 you got mcg dosages of something like 5:5:5:4:3 which shouldn’t be difficult to replicate especially with Nbully’s calculator. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-mx301-sexual-more-arousal-as-icm-homemade/41762/7 "2010-09-15T17:20:03Z")
Yea I crunched the numbers with Nbully’s calc. It was easy enough. I’ve been thinking of doing that with ammo for awhile now too.. only I still have an almost full bottle of the stuff in FF21 because I think the scents a little to strong for my taste.