# Why is new AMMO offensive ?

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**Created:** [August 27, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920 "2009-08-27T04:57:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/1 "2009-08-27T04:57:38Z")

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I hear a lot of members of this community find the new Game scented AMMO to be offensive. A lot of my friends and I found the old AMMO scent to be offensive but not the new scent.  
Why is it? How do you guys describe the unpleasant smell from the new AMMO? Does age have anything to do with this? I am a college student so I am fairly young, and find Game scent very acceptable.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/2 "2009-08-27T05:01:38Z")

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I think it’s just a matter of people’s tastes…

I get complimented all the time on the Game scent - but I’m not a huge fan of it personally. I just think it’s a little overbearing.

I much prefer [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/), but then you’ll find people saying _that’s_ overbearing as well 🙂

There’s just no pleasing everyone…

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/3 "2009-08-27T06:43:50Z")

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> [@rhuang22](#):
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> I hear a lot of members of this community find the new Game scented AMMO to be offensive. A lot of my friends and I found the old AMMO scent to be offensive but not the new scent.  
> Why is it? How do you guys describe the unpleasant smell from the new AMMO? Does age have anything to do with this? I am a college student so I am fairly young, and find Game scent very acceptable.

I suppose as you get older, the additional education and experience yields some increased refinement. Sheesh, I smell Axe and terrible butt breath on college students so I figure they don’t know any better. I’ve certainly become more particular about every aspect of my lifestyle from food, air, hygiene, water, booze, clothing, scent, cars, travel, women, etc. When I was a college student I ate, drank and fucked almost anything. I thought backpacking in Europe and hoein’ in Tijuanna were the ultimate adventures. Hell, I was dumb enough to smoke Mexican dirt weed and get stoned on mushrooms grown on cowpies.

Honestly, the original [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) was not great but it was decent. Sorta sharp and artificial, smelling very similar to Nautica Competition (Competition is slightly mellower). If Ammo mellowed out several notches it would be a hop 'n skip from Chrome. The new Ammo smells like sour fruit to me. Extremely acidic and raw. Just a cheap and unrefined funk of fermented/spoiled fruit.

My technique was to buy Ammo 2X and mix it 1:1 with Nautica Competition, sometimes spiking with wood and spice EOs. Imparted a more organic/natural vibe but still smelled like Ammo or Competition. I certainly got lots of complements from college women (my students) as well as gay men, so I wasn’t the only one to like the result.

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**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/4 "2009-08-27T07:02:56Z")

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> [@rhuang22](#):
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> I hear a lot of members of this community find the new Game scented AMMO to be offensive. A lot of my friends and I found the old AMMO scent to be offensive but not the new scent.  
> Why is it? How do you guys describe the unpleasant smell from the new AMMO? Does age have anything to do with this? I am a college student so I am fairly young, and find Game scent very acceptable.

Personally, I like the new Ammo. The former smelled a bit coarse and harsh, and actually made me have to drink a glass of water or two shortly after applying it because it agitated my throat. As the smell died down, it was more acceptible.

The new Ammo has a much better smell to it…very smooth. My target went directly to my chest, unbuttoned the top two buttons of my shirt, took a deep whiff and then planted a kiss.

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**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/5 "2009-08-27T07:09:48Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> I suppose as you get older, the additional education and experience yields some increased refinement. Sheesh, I smell Axe and terrible butt breath on college students so I figure they don’t know any better. I’ve certainly become more particular about every aspect of my lifestyle from food, air, hygiene, water, booze, clothing, scent, cars, travel, women, etc. When I was a college student I ate, drank and fucked almost anything. I thought backpacking in Europe and hoein’ in Tijuanna were the ultimate adventures. Hell, I was dumb enough to smoke Mexican dirt weed and get stoned on mushrooms grown on cowpies.
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> Honestly, the original Ammo was not great but it was decent. Sorta sharp and artificial, smelling very similar to Nautica Competition (Competition is slightly mellower). If Ammo mellowed out several notches it would be a hop 'n skip from Chrome. The new Ammo smells like sour fruit to me. Extremely acidic and raw. Just a cheap and unrefined funk of fermented/spoiled fruit.
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> My technique was to buy Ammo 2X and mix it 1:1 with Nautica Competition, sometimes spiking with wood and spice EOs. Imparted a more organic/natural vibe but still smelled like Ammo or Competition. I certainly got lots of complements from college women (my students) as well as gay men, so I wasn’t the only one to like the result.

You don’t have to be older to understand that Axe is a complete waste of money. I can’t stand the stuff.

Funny that we have the same impression regarding the original Ammo. After you got over the shock of the initial application, it actually was a good product. I bought 1x initially and my newest order for for 2x. I was surprised to find that it smelled differently, although I can’t complain about the new scent. It works as my target confirmed. And when I played it off like I was applying a new cologne 4 hours later, she said she preferred the first one (new Ammo).

This is just day 1 and one target so I’ll have to play with it some more in order to make an accurate assessment.

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**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/6 "2009-08-30T04:45:02Z")

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Ok Gegogi - I give! After testing both scents for the past few days, I definitely prefer the former smell as opposed to the Game scent. I really can’t pinpoint why, but I just think the former scent smells more sophisticated.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/7 "2009-08-30T05:35:33Z")

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I don’t really know if I have the old or new Ammo (Got it free maybe 4 months ago?) But I don’t like how it smells, and if I use more than two sprays at once it puts me in a very angry mood, I dunno if that’s the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) (Overdose?) or the smell, or both? lol.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/8 "2009-08-30T06:03:09Z")

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The funny thing about this age old debate is that it’s all currently a moot point, as the Game scent has _also_ been discontinued… I hear the latest batch of ammo comes in grapefruit, or something citrus scented, I can’t remember it’s exact name…

MHarris has said that in the coming weeks there will be several new sent packages, hopefully they have better luck with those than the ill fated game scent.

…Which for the record I’m totally going to miss.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/9 "2009-08-30T06:09:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I hear the latest batch of ammo comes in grapefruit, or something citrus scented, I can’t remember it’s exact name…

Well, it’s been proven a dab of grapefruit EO tends to make people think you’re about 5 years younger. Cool if you’re 40 but might be a problem for 19 year olds…

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/10 "2009-08-30T06:09:57Z")

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Jusah, that could be od on androstenone making you angry.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/11 "2009-08-30T06:16:21Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> Well, it’s been proven a dab of grapefruit EO tends to make people think you’re about 5 years younger. Cool if you’re 40 but might be a problem for 19 year olds…

Hmmm that’s fascinating… that could be really good to know!

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/12 "2009-08-31T01:57:21Z")

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> [@SoulCreator](#):
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> The funny thing about this age old debate is that it’s all currently a moot point, as the Game scent has _also_ been discontinued… I hear the latest batch of ammo comes in grapefruit, or something citrus scented, I can’t remember it’s exact name…
> 
> MHarris has said that in the coming weeks there will be several new sent packages, hopefully they have better luck with those than the ill fated game scent.
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> …Which for the record I’m totally going to miss.

Well, I heard that the Game scent was going to be used in the current batches of Ammo until they run out. My question (which I haven’t been able to get answered) is what version of Ammo is in my possession? Last week I got my new order and the Ammo doesn’t smell the same. So is it Game scented (never smelled so I don’t know) or grapefruit (which I don’t think it really smells like).

The bottom label reads:

Strength 2x  
Version 1.0  
Nectar Batch #210  
Bottled on 08/24/09

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/13 "2009-08-31T02:13:42Z")

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> [@BadBoysDriveAudi](#):
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> Well, I heard that the Game scent was going to be used in the current batches of Ammo until they run out. My question (which I haven’t been able to get answered) is what version of Ammo is in my possession? Last week I got my new order and the Ammo doesn’t smell the same. So is it Game scented (never smelled so I don’t know) or grapefruit (which I don’t think it really smells like).
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> The bottom label reads:
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> Strength 2x  
> Version 1.0  
> Nectar Batch #210  
> Bottled on 08/24/09

Oops! Did I say the new Ammo was grapefruit? By the looks of what your label reads the new scent is Nectar, I knew it was something fruity!

…Apparently you’ve totally got that scent and not Game. So does it smell any good?

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/14 "2009-08-31T04:41:27Z")

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not a fan of mones and scent in one

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-is-new-ammo-offensive/31920/15 "2009-08-31T04:56:07Z")

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> [@SoulCreator](#):
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> MHarris has said that in the coming weeks there will be several new sent packages, hopefully they have better luck with those than the ill fated game scent.

Where did you read this?

> [@SoulCreator](#):
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> …Which for the record I’m totally going to miss.

Me too. Im pissed.
