# Why no 2X Instant Female Magic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 21, 2007, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797 "2007-11-21T02:12:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/1 "2007-11-21T02:12:07Z")
I think I really like this stuff, I’m about to order my second bottle, but why don’t they have a 2X of this stuff? Would it smell twice as bad? I don’t like putting too much on because of the smell, but sometimes I can cover it up pretty well. Anyways, just wondering ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/2 "2007-11-21T05:01:48Z")
You can always buy more concentrated chemset versions of the main active mone, A-1. I find one or 2 tiny drops of chemset A-1 work as well as a couple sprays of IFM. A-1 is truly a miracle molecule. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/3 "2007-11-21T06:08:43Z")
I think you can special-order it, just like you can special-order IH at 4x and possibly higher. Since Tater composites almost everything anyhow, IFM 16x would be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/4 "2007-11-21T06:59:01Z")
Thanks, I would really like to try that A1. But doesn’t the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) have some buffers in it though? And how many mcgs of A1 are in IFM? Also, do you guys happen to know when all that stuff gets back in stock? I wanna get some CTTM also. Is it because of the fires down there? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/5 "2007-11-21T07:11:52Z")
A-1 doesn’t need a buffer. Works perfect as is. Now I also own [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and it works great too, but gotta use more for similar benefits to chemset A-1. I often use A-1 as a buffer for my homebrew androstenone mixes. ---
**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/6 "2007-11-21T07:25:12Z")
thanks gegogi… I’m definitely gonna try that when it gets back in stock. How many mcgs do you use? ---
**Author:** ![spot007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@spot007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spot007)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/7 "2007-11-21T08:12:23Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > A-1 doesn’t need a buffer. Works perfect as is. Now I also own Instant Female Magic and it works great too, but gotta use more for similar benefits to chemset A-1. I often use A-1 as a buffer for my homebrew androstenone mixes. Just curious, Gegogi… do you notice more pronounced effects with the pure A-1 or higher doses of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? My typical application of IFM is 3 sprays, and I like the subtle effects on the women around me (friendlier, more talkative, flirty). What kind of “hits” are you getting from A-1? - How many sprays of IFM do you apply? ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/8 "2007-11-27T10:43:46Z")
MX253 is 2X IFM … Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/9 "2007-11-27T15:49:58Z")
> [@ogt192](#): > > I think I really like this stuff, I’m about to order my second bottle, but why don’t they have a 2X of this stuff? Would it smell twice as bad? I don’t like putting too much on because of the smell, but sometimes I can cover it up pretty well. > Anyways, just wondering Have you found more to work better? I think there are some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) which are effective even at nanogram (one thousandth of microgram) doses and this might be one of them. More usually works better only when used in conjunction with other pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-no-2x-instant-female-magic/6797/10 "2008-03-09T03:12:35Z")
Quicksilver, Are you sure MX253 is 2x IFM? Also I remember your posting in some other thread about Athena 10X product. Did you ever od the Athena 10X?