# why stop making stuff that works?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 16, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483 "2010-01-16T02:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nikefredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@nikefredo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nikefredo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/1 "2010-01-16T02:22:00Z")
IFM has some of the best reviews I’ve seen so why did they stop making it?CTTM2 is my fav stuff and even have some on it’s way! Buut it’s in the exp. Section so does that mean they’ll top making it sooner or later?? Pheroproof is another example… Plz enlighten me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Elaye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elaye)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/2 "2010-01-16T02:23:56Z")
The main molecule in IFM got patented? Pretty sure IFM was a legal issue of some sort. ---
**Author:** ![nikefredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@nikefredo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nikefredo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/3 "2010-01-16T02:38:57Z")
what about pheroproof,CTTM2? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/4 "2010-01-16T02:49:11Z")
CTTM can be made using A-nol and B-nol from AD at a 50:50 ratio anyway. Besides it being patented I don’t think AD liked the potential side affect of it and would rather find something else that made it pale in comparison. I think they stop making stuff for long periods of time or forever b/c they have much better things in the works. The consumer line of AD is really only a small infinitesimal part of the full potential that they possess and once they’ve garnered enough info on aspects surrounding side effects and contraindications between individual mones and solo effects of each purported one they’ll be ready to unleash possibilities beyond even my own fathoming. ---
**Author:** ![nikefredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@nikefredo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nikefredo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/5 "2010-01-16T03:02:54Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > CTTM can be made using A-nol and B-nol from AD at a 50:50 ratio anyway. Besides it being patented I don’t think AD liked the potential side affect of it and would rather find something else that made it pale in comparison. I think they stop making stuff for long periods of time or forever b/c they have much better things in the works. The consumer line of AD is really only a small infinitesimal part of the full potential that they possess and once they’ve garnered enough info on aspects surrounding side effects and contraindications between individual mones and solo effects of each purported one they’ll be ready to unleash possibilities beyond even my own fathoming. nice to hear thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/6 "2010-01-16T03:40:04Z")
> [@Elaye](#): > > The main molecule in IFM got patented? Pretty sure IFM was a legal issue of some sort. That is absolutely not true. You can not patent a naturally occurring molecule. Besides, A1 is is still widely available wholesale, in retail hobbyist chemsets and a number of commercial products. However there is a patent on using A1 in a cologne or other fragrance based products. So that’s why IFM lacked a fragrance component and stank pretty bad. Actually nobody but AD knows the real reason IFM was discontinued. They did suggest it was for “safely” concerns due to a small percentage of men suffering from A1 induced depression. Sounds like BS as Dial Magnetic, Realm, etc., seem pretty darn safe as long as you don’t drink it… No biggie, A1 is readily available from LS and numerous other venders. I found the chemset form works better than the highly diluted and buffered IFM. We’ll be waiting a long friggen time before something is found to make A1 “pale in comparison.” That shit cures PMS like the hand 'o God and makes for cuddly womenfolk. ---
**Author:** ![nikefredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@nikefredo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nikefredo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/7 "2010-01-16T04:20:20Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > That is absolutely not true. You can not patent a naturally occurring molecule. Besides, A1 is is still widely available wholesale, in retail hobbyist chemsets and a number of commercial products. However there is a patent on using A1 in a cologne or other fragrance based products. So that’s why IFM lacked a fragrance component and stank pretty bad. > > Actually nobody but AD knows the real reason IFM was discontinued. They did suggest it was for “safely” concerns due to a small percentage of men suffering from A1 induced depression. Sounds like BS as Dial Magnetic, Realm, etc., seem pretty darn safe as long as you don’t drink it… > > No biggie, A1 is readily available from LS and numerous other venders. I found the chemset form works better than the highly diluted and buffered IFM. We’ll be waiting a long friggen time before something is found to make A1 “pale in comparison.” That shit cures PMS like the hand 'o God and makes for cuddly womenfolk. wow I wished I had a chance to try it b4 it was cut off… O well hopfully they come out with something close to that one day… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/8 "2010-01-16T04:56:53Z")
Be careful what your wish for. Ass galore is great at first but you quickly learn it almost ways comes with strings attached and complications you could never fathom. ---
**Author:** ![nikefredo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@nikefredo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nikefredo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/9 "2010-01-16T06:03:00Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Be careful what your wish for. Ass galore is great at first but you quickly learn it almost ways comes with strings attached and complications you could never fathom. yeah well you only live once and I’m still young so let me enjoy ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/10 "2010-01-16T07:27:31Z")
'k den, ass galore for Nikefredo. Hit it 'til red 'n raw den break away fast. ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-stop-making-stuff-that-works/35483/11 "2010-01-16T12:29:52Z")
I have still got half a bottle of the stuff! that I got a few years ago! I can’t say It would make a difference in my life if I didn’t have it lol.