# Why TAF may kick in up close: collected theories on its erotic effect **URL:** \ **Category:** Putative / Cutting Edge Molecules\ **Created:** [July 14, 2007, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-taf-may-kick-in-up-close-collected-theories-on-its-erotic-effect/23447 "2007-07-14T06:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 20
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-taf-may-kick-in-up-close-collected-theories-on-its-erotic-effect/23447/20 "2008-02-19T09:31:56Z")
> [@TAF's 'erotic' properties: collected member quotes and a TUTH, TAF, P96 date mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tafs-erotic-properties-collected-member-quotes-and-a-tuth-taf-p96-date-mix/4640/19): > > My experiences with TAF were somewhat different than the norm. Certainly wasn’t very erotic for me! However, I did suspect it worked best as a small component of a mix rather than a standalone. It was hard to put my finger on it, but it seemed to amp up my standard mixes a wee bit. > > I wrote up my twisted observations a few months back: > [@TAF's 'erotic' properties: collected member quotes and a TUTH, TAF, P96 date mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tafs-erotic-properties-collected-member-quotes-and-a-tuth-taf-p96-date-mix/4640/19): > > [Molecule F](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-f/6547) Gegogi your experiences with TAF aren’t that different from the norm (see bolded bits in the posts below). **People mentioned that it was some kind of sensory enhancer and seems to create a focus on ‘peripheral’ things.** TAF obviously isn’t ‘directly sexual’ like say AndrostEnone, but I believe it has an ‘erotic’ side. Noticing things in a person you haven’t noticed before could definitely be ‘erotic’ in the right context (though it could backfire in your ‘enhanced sensitivity to bad breath’ example): for example “wow I never noticed before how beautiful and shiny my wife’s red hair looks - its driving me nuts today”, “the smell of my long-term girlfriend (and her quality perfume 😛 ) is really really intoxicating today - boy do I have it good!” I suspect that you are right about TAF though working best as a relatively small component (rather than the major part) of a mix… > [@Molecule F](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-f/6547): > > I’ve been playing with a bottle of Molecule F (30ml bottle/15mcg per spray) off and on since last May. I heard it may have some interesting self-effects for artists and musicians so I figured what the hay and spritzed myself from 1 to 10 sprays on numerous occasions. I really didn’t notice much at first. That is, no strong self-effects or effects on those around me. I practiced my axe, played gigs and directed ensembles. I don’t mean to say I didn’t suspect anything was brewing, it was simply no… Gegogi (November 10, 2007): **Molecule F** I’ve been playing with a bottle of Molecule F (30ml bottle/15mcg per spray) off and on since last May. I heard it may have some interesting self-effects for artists and musicians so I figured what the hay and spritzed myself from 1 to 10 sprays on numerous occasions. I really didn’t notice much at first. That is, no strong self-effects or effects on those around me. I practiced my axe, played gigs and directed ensembles. I don’t mean to say I didn’t suspect anything was brewing,\*\* it was simply not consistent or striking enough for me to draw any conclusions. Initially I felt Molecule F distracted me or weakened my concentration. However after a few uses the before mentioned effects faded and I thought there was nothing at all to Molecule F.\*\* However I am a persistence OF, and used Molecule F off and on for months and certain reaction patterns began to emerge while teaching and rehearsing ensembles. **First, my aural perception increased and I became painfully aware of minute pitch fluctuations and out of tune instruments. Now after all these years I learned to ignore these details as correcting them is like beating a dead horse. However my pitch sensitivity was driving me batty. Second, my sense of smell under “F” is abnormally sensitive and often painfully vivid.** **As a professional musician I’m trained to be extremely aware of pitch but Molecule F takes it to the next level.** **Is this good? Nope, it’s actually counterproductive obsessing over minute details you can’t do anything about (students are playing crappy instruments and have poor technique). I spent way too much time tuning…** **The smell thing was great for nice scents but actually made me feel like hurling when I caught wind of college student morning breath.** Sheesh, their mamas didn’t teach them to brush before leaving the house. They all need to eat acidophilus too. I could smell their stomach and throat from several feet out. Lots of bad bacteria infesting them. And too often could smell women’s pussies from several feet away. Not the nice pussy smell, but the funky I need a shower ones. Some of the things Molecule F didn’t do for me that others have experienced: no increase in pleasure while listening to music; no increased creativity for improvisation or composition; didn’t improve my inner vision as a photographer; no increased drive to get busy and work; and no apparent effects on those around me. I suspect “F” should be paired with other pheromones to be truly useful. Finally the optimal dose for me was 4 sprays. Less didn’t do much and more seemed to reap quickly diminishing returns.” > [@TAF 5mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-5mcg/61/19): > > If you’re THAT suggestible, especially over the computer, then wow! I didn’t even think to listen for an effect on music. I love music, but usually don’t test at home or use a walkman (or ipod). THAT is great evidence for a significant subjective effect. To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, TAF is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me e… MHarris (January 4, 2006): "…To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me effects on others) **When I go on walks with 50mcg [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/), I notice myself picking up details I’ve never noticed before. I walked down the same street I’ve been on tens of times, maybe over a hundred. I notice little shops and details of shops I never noticed before.** **At the same time, I did notice a sort of tunnel vision… it was sort of like “zooming in” mentally.** Maybe it’s functioning at a higher level entirely… being able to simultaneously take in more, yet use that same expanded awareness/attention on anything we decide to focus on. I, too, find myself lingering with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Everything is just so much more interesting. I hate, really despite saying this, but it’s almost like getting sort of weird X-Men like ability. Again, why nature has a pheromonal molecule like this, is beyond me. **In a practical sense, I think if you stick around someone else long enough for the \*\*\*\*TAF](** [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/) **) to affect them, too, then they could very well discover charming facets of you they’d never have discovered before.** **Could be a good fall in love (or lust) pheromone for that aspect (“you are SO fascinating!”). Could also be useful for revitalizing relationships (“I never noticed this about you before… but, wow, it’s like I’m getting to know you for the first time… there’s so much more to discover about you”).** I think it stops premature closure from the reticular activiating system in the brain, and, thus makes you more childlike." > [@4 drops of A314 (base), 2 IS, 2 CTTM2, and 1 Meo-Est (went out to a dance).](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/4-drops-of-a314-base-2-is-2-cttm2-and-1-meo-est-went-out-to-a-dance/156/28): > > I have ! I have ! didn’t accomplish much outside of the norm… I think Jasmin has particularly strong responses to dopamine. Instead of being sexual, TAF makes me too intellectual, it is a “snap out of it” phero. Minute doses of TAF do improve other phero mixes… it’s the monosodium glutamate, what is that flavor additive I have in my kitchen ? Accent flavor enhancer, you put it in soup and gravy for a bigger meatier taste… TAF is like that. tacitus (February 26, 2006): " **I have ! I have !** didn’t accomplish much outside of the norm… I think Jasmin has particularly strong responses to dopamine. **Instead of being sexual, [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) makes me too intellectual, it is a “snap out of it” phero.** Minute doses of [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) do improve other phero mixes… it’s the monosodium glutamate, what is that flavor additive I have in my kitchen ? Accent flavor enhancer, you put it in soup and gravy for a bigger meatier taste… [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is like that." > [@tee hee hee....MEO-EST made me do it!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tee-hee-hee-meo-est-made-me-do-it/179/10): > > Hmmmmm… definitely an autonomic response… it might be a small dose as catalyst mone, like TAF works for me… add in a speck of it to another mix and you have attentiveness, engagement… too much and you feel neurotic. tacitus (March 5, 2006): “…Hmmmmm… definitely an autonomic response… it might be a small dose as catalyst pheromone, like [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) works for me… add in a speck of it to another mix and you have attentiveness, engagement… **too much and you feel neurotic.** ” > [@High performance communication: a 650 mu megadose of MEO-EST and putatives](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-hi-performance-communication-swill/1849/14): > > Different ball of wax… [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) has this interesting property of letting people “hear” (in the broader sense of open communication) each other, TAF is very much a sensory enhancer, P79 has a male vibe with strong sexual potentials, and P88 increases your “seeing”, in the sense that you have greater visual attunements to the micro-expressions (Paul Ekman has written extensively about micro-expression awareness) of those around you… this relates directly to a specific region in the brain called the Fu… tacitus (February 1, 2007): “…**[TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is very much a sensory enhancer**…” > [@Going to the dentist with pheros in hand!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-the-dentist-with-pheros-in-hand/1852): > > Oh gosh, I have a dentist appointment at 1:30. I am spending my last 20 minutes with you guys, laying out my strategy. I’m thinking: P79 - 25-50 mcg/spray neck/hair application Focuses doctor without spacing him out! TAH: 25ish mcg/spray neck/hair/wrist Shine P79: Focus without spaceout. I would think TAF and its ancient hunting pan-peripheral broad-focus attention would be horrible. He’d be focusing on everything in his periphery. And unfortunately, I won’t be in his periphery! TAH: Hey, g… Jasmin (January 31, 2007): “… **I would think TAF** ]( [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ) and its ancient hunting pan-peripheral broad-focus attention would be horrible. He’d be focusing on everything in his periphery. And unfortunately, I won’t be in his periphery!..” > [@Septimus Gets TAFfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/septimus-gets-taffy/5695/3): > > Haha - I love it… “The Monastery’s Pharmacy”! I noticed you have a lower dosage of TAF. GREAT for mixing. In fact, in the 2.5 - 10 mcg range, it will brighten up mixes - it makes you focus more on the highlights and lowlights of each mix. Great for when you’re trying something new and figuring out how to describe the effects. I’ve done TAF megadose (~50 mcg), and for me, thats what brings on the pan-focus effect. It’s a focus that creeps up on you. One second you’ll be walking down the street,… Jasmin (September 24, 2007): "Haha - I love it… “The Monastery’s Pharmacy”! I noticed you have a lower dosage of [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/). _GREAT_ for mixing. In fact, in the 2.5 - 10 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) range, it will brighten up mixes - it makes you focus more on the highlights and lowlights of each mix. Great for when you’re trying something new and figuring out how to describe the effects. **I’ve done [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) megadose (~50 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)), and for me, thats what brings on the pan-focus effect. It’s a focus that creeps up on you. One second you’ll be walking down the street, and the next moment, you’ll be stopped in your tracks admiring the rustle of the leaves, the color of the wind, all sorts of wacky stuff that’s all around you you’ve never noticed before.** I sometimes pair it with [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to prevent me from going too ADD. And I don’t know how or why, but it pairs well with [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), as well. 1 or 2 : 1 [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) : [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)." > [@Why TAF may kick in up close: collected theories on its erotic effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/erotic-properties-of-taf/23447/18): > > To revisit the conversation that Lor and I had on this back in the day…based on further experience, it seems that TAF works by intensifying your sensations. Many people described how TAF gave them a heightened sense of focus and concentration, while I and a few others noticed in utter LACK of attention and focus. When I use TAF in a busy setting, its as if my mind is hyper-aware of everything around me. My selective hearing is out of whack and I can hear everything around me all a the same ti… Sigma (February 2008): “**To revisit the conversation that Lor and I had on this back in the day…based on further experience, it seems that TAF](** [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/) **) works by intensifying your sensations.** Many people described how TAF]( [https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ) gave them a heightened sense of focus and concentration, while I and a few others noticed in utter LACK of attention and focus. When I use [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in a busy setting, its as if my mind is hyper-aware of everything around me. My selective hearing is out of whack and I can hear everything around me all a the same time. My vision is picking up tiny visual nuanced everywhere. Its impossible for me to focus when I’m so actively aware of everything around me. It was a disaster when I tried to use it while studying for college. Oh and if I wear the stuff at night or later in the evening, I’ll almost always find myself tossing around in bed for hours on end…my mind is moving 100mph and I can’t sleep with the stuff. **I think that how people are affected by [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) varies depending on the personality of the person. Those who have more ‘focused’ type personalities may be able to channel their heightened sensations towards a central point…for ADD types like myself, the intensified sensations they start having can pull their attention in many directions at once.** Used in a sexual mix, or straight up used during sex, [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) does seem to intensify the sensations that surge through the body in these contexts. People may start to see you differently, as these characteristics are heightened beyond their social filters. Works well in this regard, but I wouldn’t use it sexual or otherwise in an overly busy setting.” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-taf-may-kick-in-up-close-collected-theories-on-its-erotic-effect/23447)._