# Why TAF may kick in up close: collected theories on its erotic effect

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**Category:** Putative / Cutting Edge Molecules\
**Created:** [July 14, 2007, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-taf-may-kick-in-up-close-collected-theories-on-its-erotic-effect/23447 "2007-07-14T06:38:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-taf-may-kick-in-up-close-collected-theories-on-its-erotic-effect/23447/6 "2007-07-28T03:56:10Z")

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And some more on TAF from the main man, MHarris himself (who has been conpicuously absent from the forum for the last 6 months - I wonder what he is up to?)…

> [@TAF 5mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-5mcg/61/4):
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> Your use of social proof is just great, Josef! I’ve seen people talk about very rarely, and the ones who talk about it… I doubt use it. Very interesting strategies you have. I hope people here learn from them. I also really appreciate your testing strategy. I love it when people assume as little as possible. That said, I’ll try to be as vague as possible, but still give some useful suggestions. Try getting into a “deep” conversation with TAF, or going on a walk with someone, and seeing what k…

MHarris (December 17, 2005):  
"…That said, I’ll try to be as vague as possible, but still give some useful suggestions.

Try getting into a “deep” conversation with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/), or going on a walk with someone, and seeing what kinds of details you notice.

Also notice how “clear” (nor not) your perceptions are.

I’m wondering, when you were looking for b12 with less fillers, how clear the details were to both of you… and if your sense of time shifted (time passing faster or slower than your normal sense of “clock time”).

So far, _so weird_ with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/). I have a good deal of data on it, and some interesting personal experiences.

One tester (who had no idea what [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) were) did get what seems to be almost traditional “hits” with it when mixed into a normal cologne, but otherwise, most people report nothing like what you’d find from a typical pheromone. It makes me question what mother nature has up her sleeve.

For all “practical” (meaning simple) purposes, I’ve found it best used alone for longer and sensory rich shared experiences (a long walk with a friend or lover)… _or_, in mixes, best used with an emotive driver. Something else to take the wheel and lead in terms of what is communicated (A314 for masculinity and leadership, -none for raw muscularity, -Alpha Androstenol for giddiness, etc), with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) modifying the experience of the event.

This isn’t what I’d recommend for most molecules, but: Maybe your next test could involve a pheromone you’re very familiar, used along WITH [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Then note the differences."

> [@TAF 5mcg](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-5mcg/61/19):
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> If you’re THAT suggestible, especially over the computer, then wow! I didn’t even think to listen for an effect on music. I love music, but usually don’t test at home or use a walkman (or ipod). THAT is great evidence for a significant subjective effect. To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, TAF is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me e…

MHarris (January 4, 2006):  
"…To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me effects on others)

When I go on walks with 50mcg [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/), I notice myself picking up details I’ve never noticed before. I walked down the same street I’ve been on tens of times, maybe over a hundred. I notice little shops and details of shops I never noticed before.

At the same time, I did notice a sort of tunnel vision… it was sort of like “zooming in” mentally.

Maybe it’s functioning at a higher level entirely… being able to simultaneously take in more, yet use that same expanded awareness/attention on anything we decide to focus on.

I, too, find myself lingering with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Everything is just so much more interesting.

I hate, really despite saying this, but it’s almost like getting sort of weird X-Men like ability.

Again, why nature has a pheromonal molecule like this, is beyond me.

**In a practical sense, I think if you stick around someone else long enough for the TAF to affect them, too, then they could very well discover charming facets of you they’d never have discovered before.**

**Could be a good fall in love (or lust) pheromone for that aspect (“you are SO fascinating!”). Could also be useful for revitalizing relationships (“I never noticed this about you before… but, wow, it’s like I’m getting to know you for the first time… there’s so much more to discover about you”).**

I think it stops premature closure from the reticular activiating system in the brain, and, thus makes you more childlike."

> [@Sex-mix adventures: diluting TAF way down in an A314 and androstadienone party mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sex-mix-adventures/91/2):
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> Looks like a good direction. You honed in on the subtleties of TAF quickly! I don’t know if I’ve covered this publicly yet or not, but it’s actually a key ingredient added to many our products. It’s there in what may seem like small amounts, but it makes them burn a little brighter. While large amounts of TAF are insane, even nanogram amounts in a phero dose can change a mix. It’s a highly active intensifer. TAF is also an excellent modifier when you want to bring out the character of a sing…

MHarris (January 8, 2006):  
"…You honed in on the subtleties of [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) quickly! I don’t know if I’ve covered this publicly yet or not, but it’s actually a key ingredient added to many our products. It’s there in what may seem like small amounts, but it makes them burn a little brighter.

While large amounts of [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are insane, even nanogram amounts in a phero dose can change a mix. It’s a highly active intensifer.

[TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is also an excellent modifier when you want to bring out the character of a single pheromone, or discover new nuances of one you supposedly know well…"

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