# Why Washington Fears Swine Flu **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 27, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434 "2009-04-27T20:59:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/1 "2009-04-27T20:59:49Z")
Nice perspective šŸ™„ [1976: The swine flu scare](http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/2 "2009-04-27T22:10:53Z")
I had the T-Virus once. I beat it with lots of chicken soup and plenty of rest. Wasnā€™t so bad. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/3 "2009-04-27T22:19:09Z")
Oh, so it had happened before renny? OK, well in a way that changes things. For a minute or two I was thinking that this was something that has never been seen before! Some kind of weird hybrid flu dilemma that has never seen the light of day. šŸ˜Š > [@renny](#): > > Nice perspective šŸ™„ > > [1976: The swine flu scare](http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html) ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/4 "2009-04-28T01:20:58Z")
A serious article. I thought it would be a joke that went something like: Why is Washington DC so afraid of the spread of swine flu? All those professional politicians living inside the beltway would be gone. So glad it wasnā€™t ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/5 "2009-04-28T03:21:00Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I had the T-Virus once. I beat it with lots of chicken soup and plenty of rest. Wasnā€™t so bad. T-virus? Iā€™m more from the Captain Trips era. So when itā€™s over you going to Hemingford Home or Vegas? šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜› > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Oh, so it had happened before renny? OK, well in a way that changes things. For a minute or two I was thinking that this was something that has never been seen before! Some kind of weird hybrid flu dilemma that has never seen the light of day. šŸ˜Š Flu is weird and I donā€™t know the particulars but I suppose this is a different strain of swine flu than the one in '76, just as that one was different from the one in 1918. Visit any old cemetery and look at the number of graves from 1918 and youā€™ll know why it is so frightening. > [@bosshank](#): > > A serious article. > > I thought it would be a joke that went something like: > > Why is Washington DC so afraid of the spread of swine flu? > > All those professional politicians living inside the beltway would be gone. > > So glad it wasnā€™t ā€¦ Quite a dilemma for the new administration and the first one he didnā€™t inherit. ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/6 "2009-04-28T04:51:25Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Visit any old cemetery and look at the number of graves from 1918 and youā€™ll know why it is so frightening. I donā€™t know about ANY cemetery. Your results could get a little fudged by visiting a military cemetery and looking at 1918. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/7 "2009-04-29T18:33:03Z")
Hate to say it but Iā€™m old enough to remember the swine flu program. I was old enough to be able to say no, and didnā€™t get the shot. I still have a general distrust of paternalistic government and medical establishments. The story in the anime Vexille came to mind tooā€¦ where the Japanese government declaired a medical emergency and inoculated the entire population.. naturally everybody was transformed into cyborgs by the nanobotsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/8 "2009-04-29T19:18:59Z")
Due to the pandemic outbreak of Swine Flu I have ensured that Mickaelia and I will be wearing masks whenever we answer phone calls and Help Tickets. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/9 "2009-04-29T19:30:12Z")
I think they are making a big deal out of nothingā€¦but normally every flu season 250,000 to 500,000 people die from flu every year It not like this flu cannot be treated. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/10 "2009-04-29T19:55:31Z")
I suggest anyone who enters the forum also don a mask ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/11 "2009-04-29T20:07:21Z")
> [@renny](#): > > T-virus? Iā€™m more from the Captain Trips era. So when itā€™s over you going to Hemingford Home or Vegas? šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜› > > Flu is weird and I donā€™t know the particulars but I suppose this is a different strain of swine flu than the one in '76, just as that one was different from the one in 1918. Visit any old cemetery and look at the number of graves from 1918 and youā€™ll know why it is so frightening. > > Quite a dilemma for the new administration and the first one he didnā€™t inherit. The problem with the swine flu, is that we catch it. The second problem with the swine flu is that pigs can catch bird flu at the same time they have swine flu. The viruses of the bird flu can swap their DNA with the viruses of the swine flu. So now a flu that humans have no immunity or natural protection against (bird flu)ā€¦ becomes contagious to humansā€¦ and it is deadly. So, any time there is a swine flu outbreak, you need to worry about bird flu also, which was what happened in all the really deadly pandemics. > [@](#): > > The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as ā€œSpanish Fluā€ or ā€œLa Grippeā€ the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster. > > [The 1918 Influenza Pandemic](http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/) Diane ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/12 "2009-04-30T18:20:49Z")
Thanks Diane, that gives me perspective on why this swine is seen as a big deal. I just figured that it was like any other flu. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/13 "2009-04-30T19:22:45Z")
Round one.šŸ˜ƒ What he saidā€¦ [YouTube - V.P. Biden: I Told Family To Avoid Planes, Subway Over Swine Flu](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya8LTeAyCFw)# What the White says he meant to sayā€¦ [YouTube - Gibbs Addresses Bidenā€™s Swine Flu ā€˜Fear Mongeringā€™ ā€“ WH Press Laughs At Gibbsā€™s Response](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpiF00DoAaI)# Matt Lauer 2 points for the pitch Jack Tapper 1/2 point for the easy catch Joe Biden 10 points for honesty and common sense Robert Gibbs 10 point lack of pride penalty Better make some popcorn this could go on for a while. Hold the butter though, the Whitehouse is currently requesting 1.5 billion in emergency money. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/14 "2009-05-01T21:10:49Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > The viruses of the bird flu can swap their DNA with the viruses of the swine flu. So now a flu that humans have no immunity or natural protection against (bird flu)ā€¦ becomes contagious to humansā€¦ and it is deadly. > > So, any time there is a swine flu outbreak, you need to worry about bird flu also, which was what happened in all the really deadly pandemics. > > Diane Reverse is also true. We can infect pigs/birds just as they infect us. The virus itself evolves. Very quickly. Mutation rate among bacteria is high, virus, very high (relative to ours of course). There are only a handful of animals that are affected by this virus, pigs, avian, (bird) species and us. Itā€™s hard to control outbreaks cause the virus is always evolving. We can really only slow down the virus so our body can destroy or get over it. Depending on the type of virus, you can stop synthesis of itā€™s genetic replication to straight up having medication kill what ever it is. Your body is less capable of fighting virii mainly cause they evolve so rapidly, generally hide their receptor proteins well and hide within our own cells. IMO virii are scary for their ability so spread fast. Personally, I find prions scarier. Virtually indestructible. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/15 "2009-05-01T21:28:56Z")
A school district not 20mi from me has closed down for 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/16 "2009-05-01T21:34:15Z")
haha, at our school their response was ā€œif you get flu like symptoms, stay homeā€ ---
**Author:** ![pupy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@pupy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pupy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/17 "2009-05-01T21:50:45Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Due to the pandemic outbreak of Swine Flu I have ensured that Mickaelia and I will be wearing masks whenever we answer phone calls and Help Tickets. You should get some of these šŸ˜ƒ : [http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/04/masks.jpg](http://gizmodo.com/5234125/protect-yourself-against-the-swine-flu-with-style) ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/18 "2009-05-01T22:19:17Z")
Pupy, are these available online somewhere? I thought most of them were being hand decorated for kicksā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![pupy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@pupy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pupy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/19 "2009-05-01T22:30:17Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Pupy, are these available online somewhere? I thought most of them were being hand decorated for kicksā€¦ Not sureā€¦ I think you might be right, they could just be hand decorated. I want to get one for when Iā€™m out riding my bike thoughā€¦ šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434/20 "2009-05-01T22:32:55Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Pupy, are these available online somewhere? I thought most of them were being hand decorated for kicksā€¦ you can get them online. A lot of hiphop/streetwear online stores carry those type of accessories. I know they use to carry something similar, but a full on bandana instead of a face mask at karmaloop. you can also try greyone. If I figure out where I saw stuff like that, Iā€™ll be sure to let you know. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-washington-fears-swine-flu/28434.md?page=2)