# Why would someone do this? Am I bad person? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960 "2009-07-24T09:15:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/41 "2009-07-25T19:12:33Z")
> [@Twinkletoes](#): > > You are not catching what msselva is saying either, dear. There is no way to “straighten things up” from here. These two forums, while they have members in common, are NOT affiliated. The only way to “straighten it up” is to talk to the owners OVER THERE, tell them the WHOLE story, plead your case, and let them make a decision. Period. Their phone number is on the website. Not with them, with the members here. I’m not the one trying to get back on the forum now, my sister will be doing the calling to get her account back as we can only have one account apparently. The thing I can’t stand is people calling me a liar when I’m not one. So now the truth is clear. And that’s all I wanted out of this. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/42 "2009-07-25T19:17:27Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > _This is a completely private opinion held by me SteveO and has nothing at all to do with Androtics Direct or my employment. I am unaware if these views are shared by anyone other than myself and as such can only speak of MY personal experiences._ > > LOL. I read that thread too, right before I was banned 😛. It was really funny since they must be so intimidated by truth that they actually check every user to ensure nobody who might tell the truth actually gets in. It’s OK I have lots of friends who ask if I want to know about the hate filled posts that are written, but this is the company that is so loving and good and blah, blah, blah. I always tell the ones willing to share that I would rather not know at all. It’s bad for what I want out of my life to even bother with bad people with bad intentions. You are so RIGHT ON renny 🙂 > > I tell you some people have zero moral fiber and would never let such a thing as ethics stand in there way.:o Yikes! If we’re talking about the same place then I guess they are intimidated. I’ve read some of the hate messages. But yeah, it’s better to draw on the positives than the negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Twinkletoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Twinkletoes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Twinkletoes)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/43 "2009-07-25T19:25:05Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Not with them, with the members here. I’m not the one trying to get back on the forum now, my sister will be doing the calling to get her account back as we can only have one account apparently. > The thing I can’t stand is people calling me a liar when I’m not one. So now the truth is clear. And that’s all I wanted out of this. None of the members here can help you or your sister in this situation though. ---
**Author:** ![Twinkletoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Twinkletoes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Twinkletoes)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/44 "2009-07-25T19:27:27Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > _This is a completely private opinion held by me SteveO and has nothing at all to do with Androtics Direct or my employment. I am unaware if these views are shared by anyone other than myself and as such can only speak of MY personal experiences._ > > LOL. I read that thread too, right before I was banned 😛. It was really funny since they must be so intimidated by truth that they actually check every user to ensure nobody who might tell the truth actually gets in. It’s OK I have lots of friends who ask if I want to know about the hate filled posts that are written, but this is the company that is so loving and good and blah, blah, blah. I always tell the ones willing to share that I would rather not know at all. It’s bad for what I want out of my life to even bother with bad people with bad intentions. You are so RIGHT ON renny 🙂 > > I tell you some people have zero moral fiber and would never let such a thing as ethics stand in there way.:o Yeah Steve, Androtics NEVER bans members for speaking out, do they? I know a few long-time members who were “erased”. Happykitsune was banned for one reason…multiple accounts on one ip, which was found MERELY because she said some things that were very inconsistent and confusing. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/45 "2009-07-25T19:42:58Z")
> [@Twinkletoes](#): > > None of the members here can help you or your sister in this situation though. Woooow…really? Seriously? No, seriously? I just said she would call. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/46 "2009-07-25T19:50:40Z")
> [@Twinkletoes](#): > > Yeah Steve, Androtics NEVER bans members for speaking out, do they? I know a few long-time members who were “erased”. > > Happykitsune was banned for one reason…multiple accounts on one ip, which was found MERELY because she said some things that were very inconsistent and confusing. If I remember correctly someone told me that Androtics can’t have _that_ companies name on their forum and apparently one of the people who was banned by them had broken that rule. I made the same mistake only I wasn’t writing it all over my journal like one of their previous members was. I was warned and then quickly deleted what I had posted. Not that this makes my multiple accounts right, but like I said, I didn’t know and there were different people behind each account. A warning from someone would have been nice. Besides that the former member who was banned posting stuff about the other company could have gotten Androtics into a lot of legal trouble from what I’ve heard and so I can see where they would delete someones stuff and quite possibly them. ---
**Author:** ![Twinkletoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Twinkletoes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Twinkletoes)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/47 "2009-07-25T19:58:04Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > If I remember correctly someone told me that Androtics can’t have _that_ companies name on their forum and apparently one of the people who was banned by them had broken that rule. > > I made the same mistake only I wasn’t writing it all over my journal like one of their previous members was. I was warned and then quickly deleted what I had posted. > > Not that this makes my multiple accounts right, but like I said, I didn’t know and there were different people behind each account. A warning from someone would have been nice. Besides that the former member who was banned posting stuff about the other company could have gotten Androtics into a lot of legal trouble from what I’ve heard and so I can see where they would delete someones stuff and quite possibly them. Sweetie, I don’t want to offend you, but I am WAY beyond you in age, experience, and a whole lot of things. You still have a lot of living to do, and I wish you a full and happy life. You broke the rules. Period. There were people who have been deleted here who did not. You do not know the whole story, and you wouldn’t unless you knew someone personally who had BEEN THERE (Most of that history has now been erased. It happened long before you came here.). Now, I am going to leave this thread. You all may continue with whatever you want to say, and do as you wish. Mainly because I don’t think that any amount of talking is going to get through to you. This thread should not have happened, you should have taken up your issues with the source, not this forum that has nothing to do with the other company. ---
**Author:** ![Twinkletoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Twinkletoes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Twinkletoes)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/48 "2009-07-25T20:34:37Z")
BTW, Happykitsune, if you read the forum rules at the “other place”, which it asks you to read before posting, it states that multiple accounts will be deleted. Just FYI, you should read the rules of ANY forum before you start registering and posting. NOW, I’m gone! Bye!! ---
**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/49 "2009-07-25T21:08:09Z")
Hey… I’m not sure if this is a good idea, but I feel like I need to say something. I am “happykitsunes” sister. She created her account in college and is staying down for the summer. I recently made an account on that forum and was very excited to to be apart of the community :o. I was unaware of all that was going on (didn’t get to read the thread that was causing all the fuss) before I got banned. I was a bit concerned so I emailed the site and she let me know why I could no longer log in (multiple ips and trolling). I emailed her back telling her I was very sorry and that it was a big misunderstanding (the multiple ip part) and that it was never my intention to bring _any_ harm to the site. I asked if there was anyway I could possibly keep my account and delete the other (others?). I’m still waiting for a response. I think calling would be a good idea, but I’m afraid (Other then having a phobia of calling people 🙄) it wont go over well. I dont really feel welcome anymore (which is understandable that I wouldn’t be), so I’m not sure they will give me a second chance. They wont yell at me will they ☹? (I’m not sure how much trouble I’m in). I just felt a bit helpless in this situation since I was unaware of what was going on. With that said. I am not upset with the other site. In fact, I can only ask that they at least allow me to continue to buy stuff from them. I completely understand where they got suspicious and I’m not holding any hard feeling towards anyone over there (now my sister… thats a different story. I still cant believe she dragged me down with her 😠!) To all the people over there who read this… I am sorry for all the confusion and unnecessary conflict. I am sorry if you felt attacked or lied to in anyway. You have reason to be upset and for that I am truly sorry. I am taking a fall for something I have not done… but I still feel _horrible._ I hope their are no hard feelings towards me. Love, Tiffany ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/50 "2009-07-25T21:32:58Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Besides that the former member who was banned posting stuff about the other company could have gotten Androtics into a lot of legal trouble from what I’ve heard and so I can see where they would delete someones stuff and quite possibly them. I think you are confusing the forum you’re no longer a member of with another company we’re not supposed to mention here… As far as I know the owner was involved in selling illegal substances to customers & went to jail for this, BUT that individual is NOT from LP. Two entirely different companies. ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/51 "2009-07-26T01:05:11Z")
Oi I think kitsune was just outraged and looking for support from her friends guys. That and having felt like her own moral fiber was slandered she felt a need to express her disgust ask for help and defend herself in the only avenue she knew people in. Sure maybe its the wrong venue for things but perchance being harsh isn’t the answer. She got a product from one place r person that was diluted and did work. But when she ordered the base [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) from Ls? if i have it right it didn’t work. Frankly my est works from there but I’ve had some weird side effects I’ve never had with androtics products and I’m almost loathe to wear it.I wish Androtics could carry est but I understand there is some issue going on w that. However my roomies gf can wear it just fine and yes I diluted mine I have a 50 mcg dilution and a 25 mcg dilution. Undiluted it really didn’t do as well but smelled good to my boyfriend on me. I personally have a very negative reaction to est but it does have a good effect on those around me. You may try diluting or further diluting what you got and YES 100 is an owie. As for my reactions eh we’re all gona run into stuff that disagrees with us from time to time so I chalk it up to that. Here lately I’ve had so much drama going on out here I havent even bothered w other forums. I’m not taking sides here but if anyone on this forum is upset and I notice it I’m gona try to lift them up. I absolutely loathe it when people hurt. _shrug_ anyway Who wants krispy kreme? I’m starving and my date is taking forever getting ready lol. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/52 "2009-07-26T02:07:08Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > _shrug_ anyway > Who wants krispy kreme? > I’m starving and my date is taking forever getting ready lol. oh you are _NOT_ teasing me with a donut. 😠 all I have are almond-joys here when you go around planting donut thoughts in my head. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/b/b053a1baa9b0f946bf4c743e7e4889160b5962b9.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/9/9a07bdc667f3eee873582ab03639348c99403f03.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/1/11adcca46a3d5aabce9f367f03731322a504fee0.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/2/24c8ac348e4eaf013e8aace36332a852870eca7f.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/9/9e286bb7ae315a63c650390265eae6317c0f271b.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/3/36b8f45ca986fd8cd143d79bb3e28577ff200dc0.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/b/be3443a140d82f1d2096be20471e76fd347bab4c.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/53 "2009-07-26T02:07:29Z")
and ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/4/42bab4644df1409697b93ea1a72d99d3981cf2a7.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/f/f59d40c76c0a58cec709233236e9ec90a1e3a2f3.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/5/5fbc34f53f0373ba7b79cf3982037b8eea012537.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/8/8a5b760bd9b5bde9eee03226bc67c13ef57db65c.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/c/c293d47fc390cac886983c1e4d9a25f50c34b923.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/8/882cabbfc986563d490571c8c940cc9678619372.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/4/416a838ec762393e31a78659b6c339cc9699b3f3.gif) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/6/63172fbc52c3bd92a91f5503a6608c06c83e906a.gif) ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/54 "2009-07-26T02:10:58Z")
I like cupcakes. 😃 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/f/f59d40c76c0a58cec709233236e9ec90a1e3a2f3.gif) > [@Lor](#): > > and > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/gingerbread.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/gingerbread.gif) > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/hersheyskiss.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/hersheyskiss.gif) > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/candycorn.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/candycorn.gif) > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/smore.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/smore.gif) > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/tootsieroll.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/tootsieroll.gif) > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/spam.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/spam.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/55 "2009-07-26T02:23:33Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > I like cupcakes. 😃 > > [http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/cupcake.gif](http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/edible/cupcake.gif) ALL men like cupcakes 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/56 "2009-07-26T02:32:46Z")
ICE CREAM for me!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/57 "2009-07-26T02:34:45Z")
Yeah? Well, especially if it’s you bringing the cupcakes! Maromi is in charge of the ice cream. 😉 > [@Lor](#): > > ALL men like cupcakes 😉 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/58 "2009-07-26T03:46:50Z")
> [@Twinkletoes](#): > > Sweetie, I don’t want to offend you, but I am WAY beyond you in age, experience, and a whole lot of things. You still have a lot of living to do, and I wish you a full and happy life. > > You broke the rules. Period. There were people who have been deleted here who did not. You do not know the whole story, and you wouldn’t unless you knew someone personally who had BEEN THERE (Most of that history has now been erased. It happened long before you came here.). > > Now, I am going to leave this thread. You all may continue with whatever you want to say, and do as you wish. Mainly because I don’t think that any amount of talking is going to get through to you. This thread should not have happened, you should have taken up your issues with the source, not this forum that has nothing to do with the other company. I doubt you know the whole situation either. Your account was made in July 09. I was informed by members who have been here for a while. So unless your one of the banned members I don’t see how you know this info. Which in that case, how were you able to get an account… ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/59 "2009-07-26T03:52:14Z")
> [@Xiphoid](#): > > I think you are confusing the forum you’re no longer a member of with another company we’re not supposed to mention here… As far as I know the owner was involved in selling illegal substances to customers & went to jail for this, BUT that individual is NOT from LP. Two entirely different companies. If that’s the case then why was everyone freaking out when I posted a LP post? Older members were rushing to help me get it off and someone told me that we couldn’t talk about it because of legal problems. I don’t know who your talking about, but from what everyone told me we aren’t allowed to say that name. Care to say it for us? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960/60 "2009-07-26T03:55:40Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > Oi I think kitsune was just outraged and looking for support from her friends guys. > > That and having felt like her own moral fiber was slandered she felt a need to express her disgust ask for help and defend herself in the only avenue she knew people in. > > Sure maybe its the wrong venue for things but perchance being harsh isn’t the answer. > > She got a product from one place r person that was diluted and did work. > > But when she ordered the base pheromone from Ls? if i have it right it didn’t work. > > Frankly my est works from there but I’ve had some weird side effects I’ve never had with androtics products and I’m almost loathe to wear it.I wish Androtics could carry est but I understand there is some issue going on w that. > > However my roomies gf can wear it just fine and yes I diluted mine I have a 50 mcg dilution and a 25 mcg dilution. > Undiluted it really didn’t do as well but smelled good to my boyfriend on me. > > I personally have a very negative reaction to est but it does have a good effect on those around me. > > You may try diluting or further diluting what you got and YES 100 is an owie. > > As for my reactions eh we’re all gona run into stuff that disagrees with us from time to time so I chalk it up to that. > > Here lately I’ve had so much drama going on out here I havent even bothered w other forums. > > I’m not taking sides here but if anyone on this forum is upset and I notice it I’m gona try to lift them up. > I absolutely loathe it when people hurt. > > _shrug_ anyway > Who wants krispy kreme? > I’m starving and my date is taking forever getting ready lol. Thanks for your take on this. Even tho your not taking sides it still helps to know that you don’t like to see people hurt. Yes I was looking for support and I’m glad I realized who would be there to support me. _sigh_ I’m tired now. Long day and minimal sleep. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-would-someone-do-this-am-i-bad-person/30960.md?page=4)