# Wiihomebrewftw's Guide to Ultimate Sexual Reaction **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 28, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370 "2010-07-28T05:41:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wiihomebrewftw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wiihomebrewftw/32/1102_2.png) [@wiihomebrewftw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiihomebrewftw)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/1 "2010-07-28T05:41:46Z")
My guide to Ultimate Sexual Reaction Though I am fairly new to pheromones, my interest in being able to get sexual reactions from women has been a long-time fascination. I have studied and researched many aspects of attraction and manipulating every possible alternative to having a woman desire me sexually. I want to share all these aspects with you in hopes that in addition to pheromones, you will improve your chances even more with the ladies. Now obviously, not all of these aspects can be applied to every situation. It is dependent upon your environment and the people themselves. Also, what works for me may not work for you, and vice verse. For the sake of being able to describe **most** of these factors in one setting, I will set up a scenario (one that I would like to eventually test) and explain all possible factors that could be put into this scenario to achieve the desired result. Scenario Me and my girlfriend recently get an apartment together. One of her friends lives at this same apartment complex. My girlfriend has known her for a long time. Before we got an apartment there, I lived 2 counties away and when I’d go to see my girlfriend, we would sometimes hang out with her friend. This usually involved hanging out at her apartment, or occasionally going out with her. Sometimes her boyfriend was there, but usually not. In the past, my girlfriend and her friend have gotten drunk, and made out and fondled each other a little bit. Now that we are living at the same complex, we can finally be the guest for once and have her over to our place for some food, drinks, and fun. Her friend is coming over tonight. Goal Knowing that my girlfriend and her friend have gotten a little sexual with each other in the past, I am hoping that having her over will allow for another sexual episode with each other, possibly with me involved. Her having a boyfriend may greatly reduce her desire to have me be a part of it, but if I can get them to mess around a little bit or even if I can see some tits, I will be satisfied. So my goal is to try and get any type of sexual rise out of my girlfriend and her friend. So why would I go through all of this hassle just to maybe see a pair of strange tits? Because I’m a guy, and any challenge involving a woman in some sexual manner gives me the greatest sense of achievement when I’ve accomplished my goal. If only I could be this adamant about other things in life! Using every weapon I can think of I am going to manipulate every aspect I possibly can in the situation to get my desired outcome. This means considering any factor that may have an impact and being able to sexualize them. These factors are not necessarily sequential (being used at a certain time throughout the night) but if I feel they should be saved for a certain time then I will mention so. These factors may or may not have an impact on the situation, but for the greatest possible outcome, every resource should be exhausted. These factors are meant to impact both my girlfriend and her friend in a sexual manner. Food, Sex, and Phallic Symbols **Obviously, food would be served at the beginning of the evening** The look, feel, and type of food served could have an impact on what happens later that evening. Many factors must be considered when dealing with how the food served that evening could impact any sexual desire that night. **Food with Phallic Symbols** : Phallic symbols are anything that by your imagination can be construed as a penis. Having the girls eat foods that are phallic symbols may subliminally get them thinking about penis, or having sex. Foods that I would consider phallic symbols would be hot dogs and corn dogs, celery and carrots, bananas, cucumbers, popsicles, corn on the cob, candy canes, and many more. Serving foods that are phallic symbols will get them more tuned to sex. **Foods that affect sexual desire** : There are foods that are said to increase sexual arousal and are overall good for sexual health. Some of them increase blood flow and others affect women in other certain sexual ways. Some of these are effects over time and some are immediate. These are ones that effect women specifically, but they may effect men too. Some of these foods include chile peppers, asparagus, chocolate, watermelon, avocado, bananas, oysters, pomegranate, fish, vanilla, cucumbers, nuts, and other foods as well. **How I will apply this for tonight’s dinner** I want both phallic symbols and foods that affect a woman sexually to keep her mind on sex. I’m thinking a salad with cucumbers, celery, carrots and maybe some almonds. The cucumbers and nuts may affect their sexual arousal. However, I now lose the phallic symbols because the vegetables are cut up. To solve this, I will place some of these vegetables uncut in the center of the table, to decorate and accent the bowl of salad sitting next to them. This way it doesn’t look random and suspicious, but rather, part of the décor. So they will eat the sexually arousing foods, plus be exposed to the phallic symbols they display. I could also possibly have hot dogs or corn dogs with it, though I think maybe a steak would be better, even though it poses no phallic symbol. If they have a fantastic meal, they will be in a happier mood. For dessert, Maybe a banana split with lots of chocolate. I would keep the banana whole so it would retain its phallic symbol and the chocolate would get them to relax and give them a serotonin release. **In Summary** Prepare a meal with foods that enhance the girls’ sexual arousal and display phallic symbols, while also making a great meal to satisfy their taste buds and make them happy. Smells (non-pheromone) that arouse women There are certain non-pheromone smells that are said to turn women on. Whether or not this is true is a matter of debate. But we’re using every possible factor to reach our end goal. Research shows that 3 smells that turn women on are vanilla, melon, and cucumber. Cucumber being the best supposedly. So how can these be used? With the salad they will already be able to smell the cucumber while eating it, so this is good. There are, however, other ways to have the girls exposed to these smells. Scented candles are an obvious solution. You can buy them in just about any scent imaginable. In fact, I have seen one candle labeled as “Cucumber Melon” so you get two smells in one candle. Burn these for the duration of the night. These candles usually aren’t overpowering in their scent but they provide enough smell for the girls to notice. I would even be tempted to hit the candles with a couple sprays of pheromones on the wick and wax. Let it dry for a few minutes and then light it. Even though it may not have much of an affect because it’s not reacting with your body, the heat from the flame will get the pheromones floating in the air. Hopefully the smells will get them turned on, and with the addition of pheromones in the candle may help me to build a better pheromone cloud. Input by JosieWilder: “For scents, don’t forget lavendar and jasmine. These scents have been proven to affect women’s hormones and even increases their sensitivity to pheromones or reminds them of similar pheromone smells.” **In Summary** Get scented candles with scents that will turn the girls on and spray them with pheromones for an added effect. Alcohol (of course!) This is probably one of the most important factors for the night. Notice how my girlfriend and her friend were **drunk when they made out**. This is very key if I want to produce similar results tonight. **Best alcohol for female arousal** There are some who will say that any and all alcohol will make women horny, or that it only lowers their inhibitions. I also agree that alcohol in general helps get a woman loosened up and more receptive to sex. Through my research and life experiences however, there are two that stand out in particular to me. **Red Wine** is full of antioxidants and increases blood flow in the body. This is also true for blood flow to sensitive areas. Studies have shown that red wine does make women particularly horny. **Tequila** is another one that comes to mind. As the song goes, “Tequila makes her clothes fall off”, I find this to be especially true. From my experience, being around women who are drinking tequila get more wild and crazy than other hard liquors. **In Summary** I will serve red wine with the meal tonight. Afterward, I will give them some tequila shots or make some good margaritas. I must ensure they get drunk and loosened up, but without them drinking too much and getting sick. The fact that they will be drunk, will be the perfect time for me to say “You all told me you used to make out when you were drunk…” And that will be the one line I hope achieves my desired outcome. Music Music can definitely set a particular mood in the room. For parties and bars, it’s usually hip hop for the great booty dancing it provides. The environment helps to determine what music is played. I must determine what music would be appropriate to get the girls thinking about sex, and get them in a sexual mood. Any songs that talk about sex are good at getting a girl thinking about it. The following is a list of my favorite sexual songs that I think would get the girls’ blood flowing: “I wanna Fuck You” by Ludacris and Akon “3” by Britney Spears (Very appropriate in this situation) “I can tell” by 504 boyz “Promiscuous” by Nelly Furtado “Freek-a-Leek” by Petey Pablo “Fantasy” by Ludacris “Dirrty” by Christina Aguilera “Closer” by Nine Inch Nails and there are many more. It would be unwise to have nothing but sexual songs playing all night, as my girlfriend or more importantly her friend may perceive me as a pervert. So I will just make a huge playlist for the night, and throw the sexual songs in the mix. At the beginning of the night, I wouldn’t have any sexual songs at all. Once the girls had been drinking a little bit, I would have a sexual song every 3 songs. Then after the girls were feeling drunk, and I thought the time was getting closer to “go for the goal”, I would play one every other song. These songs will once again have the girls thinking about sex, in hopes that it increases the possibility of attaining the goal. **In Summary** Play some good music with the proper amount of sexual songs mixed in. Activities and Games The types of activities we engage in tonight can also play an important role. Depending on what we do, it will allow for sexual conditioning, sexual thought, and for getting conversation started that can turn sexual. **Video Games:** I bet you didn’t know that video games could be manipulated for sexual purposes. Video games are my favorite pastime, and I will also use them to serve my purpose. Playing something such as WII Sports will get the girls moving about and doing a little bit of exercise. This will prevent sluggishness from alcohol and get their blood pumping. The red wine and foods have increased their blood flow, so getting their blood pumping can only amplify this effect. As far as sexual games, the Wii doesn’t really have any. It is a family console after all. There is one Wiiware game called Strip Poker. As you win hands, the girl keeps losing articles of clothing. She never gets down to naked though. This may be something fun to show the girls, as a joke, but at the same time still have them in the mindset of sex. One game of great benefit would be “The Guy Game” on Playstation 2. Even though it is a game tailored for guys, I’ve played it with girls who thought it was a blast. The players answer trivia questions, some of which are sexual, and if you get so many questions right, they have a real video of a girl flashing her tits. It is a “Spring Break” type atmosphere. The sexual questions, girls flashing, and even a strip dance at the end, will once again have the girls thinking about sex. It may even exacerbate any bi-curious tendencies from the images of seeing girls naked. I actually think this would be the best time to bring up their past drunken history together. Or I could turn the tables, and tell them if I get the questions right _they_ have to flash me! **Board, Card, or Dice Games:** Board games may be good for having fun and having conversation, but unless it is a literal sexual game, it may not be good in this situation. An actual sexual board game would be too much, and it would again make me perceived as a pervert. Dice games would be good if we were drinking beer, as there are many fun drinking dice games, but since it is hard liquor, I risk getting the girls too drunk. Card games may be the perfect fit. It is not sexual in nature, but if the girls begin getting sexual with each other, it may be a way to suggest something like playing Strip Poker. **Movies or Shows:** This is very good as well. I could throw in a movie with a lot of nudity and sex scenes to once again get sex on their minds. They love the show “True Blood” and there are nude sex scenes with vampires, which oddly I think turns them on. Fortunately, they have the seasons of it on DVD. **In Summary** I will play Wii sports, The Guy Game, watch a sexual movie or show, and possibly strip poker later in the night. This will keep the girls thinking about sex and get their blood pumping. Conversation and Sexual Hints I will of course throw some pheromones on to enhance conversation and steer it sexually. As for what is actually said, it would be too blunt to constantly make sexual remarks. These should only be said occasionally throughout the night. If one of the girls makes a sexual comment, then I should comment on it as well and leave it at that. If I make too many, I’m perceived as a pervert. I’m pretty good with getting a woman’s juices flowing with my words, so I will not elaborate on what must be said. Guys are usually smart enough to know what to say and when to say it. This also includes throwing sexual hints. Credit to Radman513 for the input: "You got some very good info there, and a lot of stuff that can help create an edge for creating an atmosphere where a threeway could occur. Now how to apply some PUA tactics to this specific situation. I’ll assume since she’s your GF that she’s already attracted to you so you want to make sure the friend is attracted to you as well. You have the most important value switch flipped already which is preselection by women. She knows her friend, knows her judgement and knows she finds you worthy so that’s your confirmation. Now in your conversations, before you steer things in a sexual direction you want to flip the other attraction/value switches. Talk about positive things going on in your life. Getting a raise, promotion etc. scoring well on a test at school, a story involving other men where you were the leader of the group even if only for that occasion etc. The goal is to portay yourself as a natural leader and protector of loved ones. Sink the boyfriends ship: Ask her some questions about her boyfriend, if she gives a negative answer act like you’re a little disappointed in him but are trying to make excuses. EX. If she says he’s been out of work for a few months, kind of wince and shake your head then say “well I can kinda understand I mean the economy is really bad these days and jobs are hard to find” defending him to her makes him seem weak. If she says something positive, sing the praises of what a nice guy he is and how her parents must adore him. NICE GUY…nuff said? Now, cold reads won’t work since you already know her well enough that if you try a cold read she’ll go “well duh”. However a kokoro like the Cube can help create a sense of “wow, you really understand me” Now this part is pure theory and I have no clue if it will work or not but I think it can…although I’m not sure if you would want to deal with the aftermath. Do a threeway variation of the october man sequence. Tell her you learned this really cool guided meditation technique. The difference is instead of creating sense of merging two people…you and A target, you modify what you say and how so it feels like all three of you are merging…each one equally to the other two. Now a lot of guys won’t do the october man at all…it’s said that women won’t leave you alone if you do. So if it works in a three way dynamic the same as in a two way dynamic you may very well wind up with two girls that want a threeway relationship long term. at the very least it’s a great comfort building technique. " **In Summary** Be a smooth talker, speak with confidence, and be speak sexually when appropriate. Lip-gloss and Lipstick Wait, what? How can this have anything to do with my desired outcome? Recently, there was a lipstick released that is supposed to change colors when a woman becomes horny. Whether or not this works, I have no idea. But it can definitely be used for its novelty factor. I’ll buy it as a gift for my girlfriend and she’ll love the idea. Then I will bring it up in conversation tonight and her friend will be curious about it. This once again gets them thinking about sex, and I will urge them both to put it on to see if I see the effects. I think this will absolutely be a hit with them. **In Summary** This is a great way to get sex on their minds and if it works, might actually tell me if they are feeling horny or not. More Phallic Symbols and other eye candy It might not be a bad idea to have more phallic symbols in the room. Any odd shaped figurines or poles from items will again entice the subliminal thought process. I have a fish tank, and fish tanks are said to be a very soothing and comforting centerpiece. This will keep her friend even more relaxed and can only enhance sexual feelings she may be having. **In Summary** Make everything look like it has something to do with sex! Pheromones (The best for last!) This is where the forum and Androtics will help me out! I will obviously have to find a good mix for the night to keep both my girlfriend and her friend sexually attuned. By the time this event would happen, I would probably have a big selection of pheromones to choose from. I’ve been trying different ones and I love their effects! Pheromones will help make or break what could happen that night. I would obviously want a sexual mone, but with some socials to keep the girls comfortable. ## This got me thinking about their bi-curious tendencies. It might actually be a good idea to buy a female pheromone and have my girlfriend spray it on or spray it on myself. If they are curious in the least, then female pheromones may amplify this feeling along with male pheromones. It is an interesting thought. ## **My objective of getting my girlfriend and her friend sexual will be attempted with every possible factor I can think of. After utilizing all these aspects, I hope for a moment where I can push any sexual tension and hope it flowers into something amazing.** **In Closing** I hope you take some of these tips and ideas and apply them in your own situation. I was just using my situation as an example so you would see how the ideas applied. You obviously may not be able to burn a scented candle at a bar, but you _can_ feed your target tequila all night. A lot of the sexual music is already at bars and clubs, so you are good there. If you are going to take your target out to eat, remember the foods that may peak her arousal, and also generate phallic symbols. And of course, don’t forget your [best pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) mix! I welcome your feedback and suggestions. If there is something you feel I’ve missed that can help with sexual reactions, please let me know along with your explanation and I’ll add it to the list. Thanks for reading! ---
**Author:** ![Scipio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Scipio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scipio)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/2 "2010-07-28T06:02:01Z")
I really hope you post how the night went. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/3 "2010-07-28T06:47:03Z")
You got some very good info there, and a lot of stuff that can help create an edge for creating an atmosphere where a threeway could occur. Now how to apply some PUA tactics to this specific situation. I’ll assume since she’s your GF that she’s already attracted to you so you want to make sure the friend is attracted to you as well. You have the most important value switch flipped already which is preselection by women. She knows her friend, knows her judgement and knows she finds you worthy so that’s your confirmation. Now in your conversations, before you steer things in a sexual direction you want to flip the other attraction/value switches. Talk about positive things going on in your life. Getting a raise, promotion etc. scoring well on a test at school, a story involving other men where you were the leader of the group even if only for that occasion etc. The goal is to portay yourself as a natural leader and protector of loved ones. Sink the boyfriends ship: Ask her some questions about her boyfriend, if she gives a negative answer act like you’re a little disappointed in him but are trying to make excuses. EX. If she says he’s been out of work for a few months, kind of wince and shake your head then say “well I can kinda understand I mean the economy is really bad these days and jobs are hard to find” defending him to her makes him seem weak. If she says something positive, sing the praises of what a nice guy he is and how her parents must adore him. NICE GUY…nuff said? Now, cold reads won’t work since you already know her well enough that if you try a cold read she’ll go “well duh”. However a kokoro like the Cube can help create a sense of “wow, you really understand me” Now this part is pure theory and I have no clue if it will work or not but I think it can…although I’m not sure if you would want to deal with the aftermath. Do a threeway variation of the october man sequence. Tell her you learned this really cool guided meditation technique. The difference is instead of creating sense of merging two people…you and A target, you modify what you say and how so it feels like all three of you are merging…each one equally to the other two. Now a lot of guys won’t do the october man at all…it’s said that women won’t leave you alone if you do. So if it works in a three way dynamic the same as in a two way dynamic you may very well wind up with two girls that want a threeway relationship long term. at the very least it’s a great comfort building technique. ---
**Author:** ![wiihomebrewftw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wiihomebrewftw/32/1102_2.png) [@wiihomebrewftw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiihomebrewftw)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/4 "2010-07-28T17:40:54Z")
Thanks for your input Radman. I’ve started studying PUA tactics and hope they will serve me in this situation and any others. Would you mind if I put your suggestions in my guide? With you getting credit for it of course. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/5 "2010-07-29T00:54:07Z")
It’d be an honor ---
**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/6 "2010-07-29T01:25:19Z")
> [@wiihomebrewftw](#): > > I want both phallic symbols and foods that affect a woman sexually to keep her mind on sex. I’m thinking a salad with cucumbers, celery, carrots and maybe some almonds. The cucumbers and nuts may affect their sexual arousal. However, I now lose the phallic symbols because the vegetables are cut up. To solve this, I will place some of these vegetables uncut in the center of the table, to decorate and accent the bowl of salad sitting next to them. This way it doesn’t look random and suspicious, but rather, part of the décor. So they will eat the sexually arousing foods, plus be exposed to the phallic symbols they display. I could also possibly have hot dogs or corn dogs with it, though I think maybe a steak would be better, even though it poses no phallic symbol. If they have a fantastic meal, they will be in a happier mood. For dessert, Maybe a banana split with lots of chocolate. I would keep the banana whole so it would retain its phallic symbol and the chocolate would get them to relax and give them a serotonin release. You’ve got so much phallic food why don’t you cut the steaks into the shape of a cock? 😃 Seriously though, this sounds so bloody phallictastic, I’m looking forward to reading how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/7 "2010-07-29T01:26:20Z")
Not necessarily a fan of your plan, however I will throw in a few tidbits. If you use them for your pleasure, then that’s purely up to you. For scents, don’t forget lavendar and jasmine. These scents have been proven to affect women’s hormones and even increases their sensitivity to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) or reminds them of similar pheromone smells. There is also a massage technique that can help. It’s called a dual induction massage. The goal is to get the girls to make out. You start the massage on your girlfriend, you on one side and the friend on the other. The most important thing is that you have to sell how great it was. People always want to try something if you sell the feeling. Here is a link. [Dual Induction Massage | PUA Lingo](http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions/dual-induction-massage/) ---
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> [@](#): > > ink the boyfriends ship: Ask her some questions about her boyfriend, if she gives a negative answer act like you’re a little disappointed in him but are trying to make excuses. EX. If she says he’s been out of work for a few months, kind of wince and shake your head then say “well I can kinda understand I mean the economy is really bad these days and jobs are hard to find” defending him to her makes him seem weak. > If she says something positive, sing the praises of what a nice guy he is and how her parents must adore him. NICE GUY…nuff said? That stuff is genius, I gotta remember to use that daily.😃 ---
**Author:** ![wiihomebrewftw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wiihomebrewftw/32/1102_2.png) [@wiihomebrewftw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiihomebrewftw)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/9 "2010-07-29T03:05:15Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > That stuff is genius, I gotta remember to use that daily.😃 Yes, I’m so glad that Radman brought that up. Trashing on the boyfriend will definitely make her think twice about how she feels about him. I will have to work on my PUA techniques. I have recently just started getting into reading about it. I think ultimately the PUA will be what could make it happen, but the other effects are just enhancers. ---
**Author:** ![extremetool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extremetool/32/1887_2.png) [@extremetool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetool)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wiihomebrewftws-guide-to-ultimate-sexual-reaction/40370/10 "2010-07-29T03:58:20Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Sink the boyfriends ship: Ask her some questions about her boyfriend, if she gives a negative answer act like you’re a little disappointed in him but are trying to make excuses. EX. If she says he’s been out of work for a few months, kind of wince and shake your head then say “well I can kinda understand I mean the economy is really bad these days and jobs are hard to find” defending him to her makes him seem weak. > If she says something positive, sing the praises of what a nice guy he is and how her parents must adore him. NICE GUY…nuff said?. Now first off never i repeat never do what RADMAN has stated or you will set your self up for failure, I’m not knocking RADMAN he made some great points, with his post, but do this if your like 15yrs to 20yrs not 20yrs and up, the chick will think your just another Best Friend she can go to then you are F’ed your in the best friend mode I know did this done it leanered from it, when i was 16yrs old dont get me wrong i have slept with married woman and amazing ladys that had BF’s but after it was all trouble ya the sex was great but the headaces that came after was not worth it, drama is what i got in return, so be carefull There has been so many techniques used for the issue of the “ **boyfriend** ”, yet so few techniques actually prove to do the job. Forget all you know about bf destroying because its most likely that is ineffective.In this guide i will cover why certain techniques dont work and describe what techniques do work and why.There is a difference between bf destroying and sleeping with a girl that has a **boyfriend**. **Boyfriend** destroying is actually getting the girl to leave her **boyfriend** to start a whole new relationship with you. Sleeping with a girl that has a bf is basic isolation and sex, without her bf knowing. In actuality, its easier to just establish a sexual relationship with a woman that has a **boyfriend** than to steal her completely. Which ever you choose to do you must apply the right stratagy and dont make the mistake of thinking the stratagies are interchangeable. A word that’s never been used in the seduction community is called “sentimental value - value based on emotional association: a value placed on something because of its emotional associations rather than its monetary worth-” and has a big impact on bf destroying. Old bf destroying techniques envolve lowering the bf’s value compared to yours, this doesnt work because even though you raise your value in her eyes, her bf has higher senimental value. Heres a prespective, if your dad gave you his watch that his grandfather wore and its a family momento. It has sentimental value. If someone wanted you to throw your watch away for a rolex you might not do it because of the sentimental value it has for you, or you might because of your lack of moral views. The person could offer you both and you’d like that offer rather than throwing your fathers watch away. So with her bf shed rather have her bf with sentimental value and you with sexual value.Or she might just leave her bf due to her lack of moral views. To get her to leave her bf you must build higher sentimental value than he has,Then there are girls in the world that are so attached to their bf’s that no matter what you do they won’t cheat. They exist everywhere. As well it depends on her morals if shes gonna cheat or not. i don’t condone BF stealing reason being Karma, as well if she is going to cheat on her BF what makes you think she wont cheat on YOU… enough said this will aid in what you would like to achive **How To Establish a Sexual Relationship with a girl with a bf** When you establish a sexual relationship with a married or woman with a bf you are basically becoming a booty call for the girl. There is nothing else involved in the relationship besides sex. She is cheating with you because she feels attraction towards you and feels an urge to be satisfied by an alpha male. So to establish a sexual relationship with a taken girl you have to.. 1.Game the girl while handling the boyfrend objection. To handle the “i have a **boyfriend** ” objection is to act like it doesnt matter and you are cool with it. If her subconcious signals are still showing intrest in you, she wants to have sex with you. By acting like it doesnt matter it states that you will be discreet in your affair and not talk about it and mess up her reputation, or letting her bf find out. 1. Sexually escalate, while having a converational context that leads to isolation. This means having a sexual vibe with the girl without making her feel slutty. What you must do is give her plausible deniablity when trying to isolate, to give the illusion that sex “just happened”. So give her a reason to go home with you that is non sexual. ex “You gotta come see the view from my balcony, ud just be stuck there for hours!” As a result she goes home with you. 2. Isolate and iniciate sex. After you have the girl back to your crib the game is technically done, all you have to do beat any LMR and lay the pipe, REALLY WELL. I cannot stress this enough. You must be able to give her extreme sexual pleasure in order to solidify the sexual relationship. If you are familiar with the D.E.V.I Sex God Method you must apply that in the sack. Because you are the facilitator of extreme sexual pleasure she will be coming back every time. You must build that “SExual value” This is also important in stealing her from her bf later in the guide. **How to Steal a girl away from her bf** These tactics will be used to get her to “throw away the watch” and get with the Rolex. What you will do is do steps 1-3 and the fallowing.. 1. Build Sentimental Value. Basically shooting her emotional connection with you off the roof. Heres how you can do it. After establishing a sexual relationship you heighten up the emotion by doing things that gets her invested in you such as going to romantic places, have her buy you things, having incredible emotional and dominant sex, spending alot of time togather, keeping eachothers secrets and just in general doing things for you. As a result you heighten your sentimental value, once your value beats his she may say that she wants to leave her bf for you. hope this helps learn to master Cocky & Funny but dont be a jerk learn to be the Alpha Male, it takes time but once u learn it and you accept rejection you will be better in your Inner game, Rejection is the key to a hole new world And Never put a woman up on a Pedesal, when you Pedestal you put the girl you are seeing up on a Pedestal you think that she is the most beautiful girl you have ever seen, you think that she is a princess and you focus on her and only her, thats why Pedestaling is the downfall of many guys, Learn from it and MAKE SURE IT NEVER HAPPENS GAIN,